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Topic: synastry - Lilith on the Descendant
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kicksotic
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posted April 08, 2017 05:56 PM
  
I've read threads, articles, posts and updates about Lilith and I'm STILL stuck on who would be obsessed/mesmerized/infatuated/tempted by who.In the synastry below, looking at that Lilith on the other's Descendant - and knowing synastry isn't boiled down to just one aspect - is it possible to determine how the Lilith energy might manifest?  I look forward to hearing (reading) everyone's thoughts. 🙃 IP: Logged |
Beautiful_Light
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posted April 08, 2017 06:22 PM
I think if you post a chart from astro.com, the aspects would be a lot clearer. As for Lilith, the Descendant person would feel it a lot, but it would still be mutual.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted April 08, 2017 07:54 PM
The DSC person would look for a partner who had raw sexuality, my Friend------------------
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kicksotic
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posted April 08, 2017 08:02 PM
But would that raw sexuality the DSC person's looking for be triggered by (or found in) the Lilith person conjunct that angle? I think that's where I'm having a hard time - for some reason - squaring away in my head. IP: Logged |
Orange
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posted April 08, 2017 08:42 PM
Lilith on the DSC is like being a mistress to someone who is already married...
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Randall
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posted April 13, 2017 11:37 PM
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kicksotic
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posted April 14, 2017 08:25 AM
if we go back to earlier conversations on Lindaland, in synastry, someone's planet on an angle is like a transit for that person all the time, right?So, in this case, that contact would be like a transit of Lilith triggering that Descendant constantly. I suspect my sticking point, the hurdle I still need to jump, is figuring out how Lilith might manifest for that Descendant person. Would Lilith be alluring? Frightening? Would the Desc person find themselves obsessed, fixated? Uncomfortable? The challenge with Lilith is it might be all those things, so I suspect it's difficult to boil down to just a few things. Anyone have any experience they can chime in with when it comes to Lilith/Descendant contacts in synastry? IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 20, 2017 10:17 PM
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llewsacm
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posted April 21, 2017 05:40 PM
It is hard to read this type of chart, simply because I'm not used to seeing this type...But, from what I can make out, you've got a lot more going on than just DSC axis activation. Is that also Lilith on the partners ASC? Plus, it looks like there's a lot of activation on someone's IC. Whoever has the scorpio stellium...Looks like it's falling on the others 4th house cusp. Anyway...my take on Lilith activating the other DSC is that both parties will notice so.ething stir inside them. It's not in you face...More kinda bubbling below the surface intrigue. I think you made a good point that it's a bunch of different things coming about....Erotic, protective, mysterious, inviting but scary all at the same. That's my take on it too. Point is, if my eyesight serves me correctly, your getting a double dose cuz you both have it activating the ASC/DSC axis. IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 21, 2017 06:54 PM
I think both parties feel it but Lilith is always the seducer - black hole, vampire, 8H element, ruler of Cancer..water water water sex emotions..you get the picture, she's basically irresistible to whichever personal planet it touches, or angle. I think to understand these aspects it would be easier to imagine a human (planet) and vampire (Lilith), well that's how I understand it at least  For the planet person the attachment/bond/obsession is harder to break because the vampire wants a human more, human is helpless.IP: Logged |
kicksotic
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posted April 22, 2017 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Is that also Lilith on the partners ASC? Plus, it looks like there's a lot of activation on someone's IC. Whoever has the scorpio stellium...Looks like it's falling on the others 4th house cusp.
No, that 29 Cancer Lilith isn't activating the 23 Leo Ascendant. There is an Ascendant/Vertex/Juno DW, though. As for the IC stuff, yeah, in one chart there's Pluto/Venus/Mercury activating the IC and in the other it's the Moon activating the IC. So that should be interesting. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts 👍 IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted April 22, 2017 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by kicksotic:
No, that 29 Cancer Lilith isn't activating the 23 Leo Ascendant. There is an Ascendant/Vertex/Juno DW, though.As for the IC stuff, yeah, in one chart there's Pluto/Venus/Mercury activating the IC and in the other it's the Moon activating the IC. So that should be interesting. Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts 👍
I see it now yes thanks for clarifying. Totally intense with that dw on the ASC/DSC axis. IP: Logged |
llewsacm
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posted April 22, 2017 10:01 PM
That's a crazy combo with Juno on the relationship axis with the vertex involved. I believe Todd once pointed out that the vertex can act independently from the other energies in the chart...So I wonder if there's been any talk of commitment between you two at any point? IP: Logged |
kicksotic
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posted April 23, 2017 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
For the planet person the attachment/bond/obsession is harder to break...
If we look at synastric contacts like constant transits, it would make sense that the angle person would feel the Lilith energy more. I think the trick -- and I'm realizing it's one that probably can't be achieved -- is determining how that energy is felt. Your thoughts definitely bring me closer to cracking that code, so thank you for speaking up
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kicksotic
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posted April 23, 2017 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by llewsacm:
That's a crazy combo with Juno on the relationship axis with the vertex involved. I believe Todd once pointed out that the vertex can act independently from the other energies in the chart...So I wonder if there's been any talk of commitment between you two at any point?
Nope, no discussions. It's slow-moving - indicative of that Saturn/Venus opposite Sun glue - and that's just fine 😊 I also suspect the Sun/North Node conjunct North Node combo - there is an age difference at play - is also helping things move slow and steady. As if there's an innate understanding that whatever the energy ends up being, it'll be transformative and shouldn't be entered into lightly. Thankfully the Moon trine Moon keeps everything on the same even emotional page 😉
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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted April 23, 2017 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by kicksotic:
If we look at synastric contacts like constant transits, it would make sense that the angle person would feel the Lilith energy more. I think the trick -- and I'm realizing it's one that probably can't be achieved -- is determining how that energy is felt. Your thoughts definitely bring me closer to cracking that code, so thank you for speaking up
Speaking of the trick.. The trick here is to realise the dependence IN TIME. Because when you cross that important point in time (when you can still control what happens and act rationally) there's no going back. What happens later on depends on many factors. Lilith will suck you up dry, when she's fully charged, she might back off or continue feeding. I think from the get go, when two people meet and the planet person is not hooked on Lilith right away then it's Lilith who's going to have a hard time to get them out of their mind. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted April 27, 2017 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by CapriciousCapricorn:
I think both parties feel it but Lilith is always the seducer - black hole, vampire, 8H element, ruler of Cancer..water water water sex emotions..you get the picture, she's basically irresistible to whichever personal planet it touches, or angle. I think to understand these aspects it would be easier to imagine a human (planet) and vampire (Lilith), well that's how I understand it at least For the planet person the attachment/bond/obsession is harder to break because the vampire wants a human more, human is helpless.
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astri
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posted December 01, 2019 08:13 AM
So I wonder if you see Lilith prominently placed in synastry, like on the DC in a non-romantic relationship, would that indicate that their is sexual desire anyways or could Lilith be interpreted as non-sexual if it's tightly conjunct the DC?IP: Logged |
Pereya
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posted December 01, 2019 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by kicksotic:
if we go back to earlier conversations on Lindaland, in synastry, someone's planet on an angle is like a transit for that person all the time, right?So, in this case, that contact would be like a transit of Lilith triggering that Descendant constantly. I suspect my sticking point, the hurdle I still need to jump, is figuring out how Lilith might manifest for that Descendant person. Would Lilith be alluring? Frightening? Would the Desc person find themselves obsessed, fixated? Uncomfortable? The challenge with Lilith is it might be all those things, so I suspect it's difficult to boil down to just a few things. Anyone have any experience they can chime in with when it comes to Lilith/Descendant contacts in synastry?
obsessed & fixated are the right words Uncomfortable or not depends on other aspects. Look, the rule is the following: Lilith-planet = planet is obsessed with Lilith because Lilith is like vacuum, once the planet gets into it, it gets trapped like a cat who played with a vacuum cleaner Lilith-angle = codependence and mutual obsession because Lilith as an empty space finally gets filled with pure Zodiacal energy of the angle. Especially, it concerns Vertex. I had both types with all my boys so I know ------------------
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astri
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posted December 01, 2019 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by Pereya:
I had both types with all my boys so I know
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Your boys are your exes or sons?  IP: Logged |
Pereya
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posted December 02, 2019 07:11 AM
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Your boys are your exes or sons?
it's a synastry topic so you can guess  ------------------
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astri
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posted December 02, 2019 09:23 AM
your exes then? (I thought you could do synastry with all type of relationships..?)IP: Logged |
Pereya
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posted December 02, 2019 10:46 AM
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your exes then? (I thought you could do synastry with all type of relationships..?)
Well, yes ) exes, and all others I ever had a crush on...wierd
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Sinder
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posted December 06, 2019 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Pereya:
obsessed & fixated are the right words Uncomfortable or not depends on other aspects.Look, the rule is the following: Lilith-planet = planet is obsessed with Lilith because Lilith is like vacuum, once the planet gets into it, it gets trapped like a cat who played with a vacuum cleaner Lilith-angle = codependence and mutual obsession because Lilith as an empty space finally gets filled with pure Zodiacal energy of the angle. Especially, it concerns Vertex. I had both types with all my boys so I know
What about Squaring the vertex?
What about Lilith in midpoints of Sun and Pluto? In Synastry? How would it work?IP: Logged |
Sinder
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posted December 10, 2019 09:22 PM
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