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Orange
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posted April 24, 2017 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Emmanuel Macron is a 39-year-old former investment banker and economy minister and a current favorite in the presidential election In France.

His wife, Brigitte Trogneux, is a stylish woman, with blond hair and a warm smile. She also happens to be 24 years Macron’s senior. They met when he was a high school student and she was his teacher.
Then known as Brigitte Auziere, she was married with three children and teaching French literature and drama when she encountered Macron, then just 15 years old. They bonded writing a play together, but when Macron told his parents of his interest, they sent him away to school in Paris. The two kept up a correspondence, and by the time Macron was 18, Trogneux had divorced her husband and moved to Paris to be with him. They were married in 2007.


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posted April 24, 2017 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At first glance I see Pluto having a lot to do with their relationship.
His PLUTO opposes her Aries stellium, however only the opposition to the Moon is close enough in orb 3'
The opposition to her Venus is 6'
but since its part of a stellium, it still counts

so

synastry his to hers:

PLUTO MOON opposition
SATURN conjunct ASC
VERTEX conjunct ASC
MOON conj MARS
CHIRON conj JUNO
Their natal stelliums trine each other

In the Draconic synastry, its amazing to see how their natal stelliums came into a conjunction , this is very lovely and very strong.

What else do you see?

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mir
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posted April 24, 2017 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In 1994, when he was 17 years old and telling her he would marry her;

Her pMoon 15'15 Libra
Her pNeptune 21'30 Libra

His pMoon 11'37 Sag
His pNeptune 16'56 Sag

(look at that ^ / around the same time they will get a pMoon-pNeptune conjunction / ofcourse their natal Neptune receives this as well)

Her pMoon 15'15 Libra
Her pPluto 20'55 Leo

His pMoon 11'37 Sag
His pPluto 16'39 Libra

(^ around the same time they will receive a pMoon-pPluto WAXING sextile)

Both cases above are "SAME PHASE" aspects, and as these are progressions they KEEP running in the same direction so they will receive the square/opp/semi-sextile etc. at THE SAME TIME between the same pair of planets. Progressions for life is what I call it. Even though one Moon might run a bit faster than the other, globally it's will stay in the same phase.

And here another one, bit wider orb, but I don't look at total exactness although it's nice to find like the ones above;

Her pMoon 15'15 Libra
Her pMars 16'07 Gem

His pMoon 11'37 Sag
His pMars (retro) 7'22 Leo

^ Another same phase angle (waxing trine) but his pMars is retro so the distance will grow.

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Next to a "SAME PHASE" aspect we can also find an "OPPOSING PHASE" aspect, I consider both equally important.
An 'opposing phase' might be a bit more difficult to find. But KEY is that with this phase 1 person will finally receive a conjunction while the other person receives an opposition at the same time between the same pair of planets. And if that is the case, then ofcourse while 1 receives a WAXING square the other will receive a WANING square, and when 1 gets a WANING semi-sextile the other will get a WAXING quincunx etc. and so finally on its way person 1 walks against the conjunction and person 2 against the opposition.

And so, which opposing phase aspects do we see with them?

Well, the NN and the Moon;

Her pMoon 15'15 Libra
Her pNN 5'28 Aqua

His pMoon 11'37 Sag
His pNN 10'05 Libra

(^ it's a bit out of orb but again, doesn't matter / she has a WANING trine, he has a WAXING sextile and so when she approaches the conjunction after 120 deg. he will approach the opposition at that time)


OK, I only looked at the progressed Moon to the progressed planets. But we can do this in fact with ANY pair of same planets. We can also look from the progressed Moon (or Sun/Venus/Mars) to NATAL planets. And after that my wish is to see this decades further in time.


Ok, this means I'm not ready yet. Please do not feel the pressure to absorb my current -progressed- phase obsession

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posted April 24, 2017 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mir

same or opposing lunar phase, but what about my case where we have the ongoing opposition and square between sun and moon in his or mine progressed chart, they are travelling like this together.

example:
at the onset of our relationship,
I had an applying progressed Sun Moon square which was a wide applying square.
He had a separating wide opposition between his progressed sun and moon.
in 2021 its reversed, my progressed sun and moon becomes exact opposition 0', his progressed sun and moon becomes exact square 0', at the same time in August'21

in 2028 ( 7 years interval) , my Sun Moon is again square applying, he has a conjunction of moon and sun exact.

so, I am wondering about the square and opposition/conjunction swapping? Is this part of your discoveries too, despite one or the other been always a square?

however, I must say that by 2035 this trip of sun and moon falls apart due to the lunar speed, because at that year it is a trine in his and a conjunction in mine...guess we can only be till 2035...oh well

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posted April 24, 2017 11:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TheTruthIsTheWay11     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
At first glance, I'd say it looks and sounds like a Soulmate relationship. Maybe I'll look at this a little more tomorrow.

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posted April 25, 2017 02:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange, now you have me (which is great), I now catch myself on putting the Sun & Moon on a pedestal as I totally and completely accept ANY 4th harmonic aspect in the progressions around the same time between the luminaries. It's because I see it time after time in longterm relatonships and I'm still like.. WOW! (when finding it)

But my focus on the other planets is indeed limited to "same phase" and "opposing phase".
Why? Great question!

It might be because I see so many other decent progressed options which I want to explore explore and explore. Like for example YOUR miraculous start where you both had the opposition in the composite of each natal/progressed chart (on the other thread) MY!! And HOW exact.
I honestly can't say that that would be less significant than simply taking pSun and pMoon to look at. I was wondering... how are those developing?

I should do it all over, I mean, all the relationships I once looked at.. and unfortunately that takes a lot of time, even with a focus on the luminaries only.

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posted April 26, 2017 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Orange, I looked at your progressed Moons to the progressed planets.. and I see a wonderful opposing phase with Saturn (with aries);

Your pMoon 3'21 Cap
Your pSaturn 21'42 Taurus

His pMoon 27'43 Scorp
His pSaturn 16'47 Libra

^ + 18 deg. and you will have a WANING trine while him having a WAXING sextile. Means that finally you will reach the conjunction and him the opposition.

I saw the same opposing phase also with Federico Fellini and Giulietta masina the moment they started dating (although that is not exactly relevant / globally it will stay that way although it might differ some degrees in the end);

His pMoon 3'35 Sag
His pSaturn 9'29 Virgo

Her pMoon 13'13 Gem
Her pSaturn 21'08 Virgo

^ so him applying to the WAXING square, hers applying to the WANING square. Will reach at the same time a Saturn/Moon conj and opp.


I have the feeling that Saturn-Moon is very relevant.. because the progressed Lunar cycle corresponds with the tSaturn cycle.. but I can't lay my finger exactly on it yet. Maybe later.

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Another striking thing I found with Macron & Trogneux in their synastry;


Her Venus 22'57 Aries (in the 9th)
His Venus 21'48 Sag (in the 11th)

Her Uranus 14'39 Cancer (in the 11th)
His Uranus 14'50 Scorp (in the 9th)

Midpoints
his Venus/Uranus 3'19 Sag
her Venus/Uranus 3'48 Gem

^ DW of 158/156 degree. 157'30 is a minor stress aspect from the 16th harmonic. Uranian astrologers claim these are not 'minor'.

a BEAR HUG!


to be continued...

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posted May 05, 2017 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
def a unique couple, the Macrons

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posted May 05, 2017 02:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow for the composite Sun/Karma/Juno on MC!

I should learn about draconic charts.

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posted May 05, 2017 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, in the Draconic, his and hers stellium are conjunct. Very telling

And in the Composite, Venus also is in the forementioned stellium, Sun-Venus-Juno-Karma

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posted May 05, 2017 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, not to overlook Venus. It's just that the other three are exactly conjunct

Any websites/articles you recommend for learning about draconic charts? I see they're like secondary natals and synastry charts!

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posted May 07, 2017 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my take is totally different.
this composite does not seem to be a relationship based on love and romance , but rather is based on greed and power.
with Jupiter conjunct to nessus and the south node and square to Uranus and chiron.
nessus is associated with abuse and Jupiter adds abuse by authority figure. the square to Uranus brings the grasping of wealth and power. chiron square to Jupiter et. al. is often image of fascistic control.

it would be interesting to read the play they collaborated on.

this composite actually reflect marcon's political stance which is basically globalist/new world order.

this actually reminds of trump especially as macron has already raised the eyebrows of many by saying he will find a place for his wife in the new government if elected.

I had never even heard of macron until I read this thread but researching him , it seems my political take on this composite reflects his and her political/social leanings.

I wonder who has the wealth ,this chart refers to?

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posted May 07, 2017 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Todd,

His wife is the wealthy one. Her wealthy family owns a famous chocolate making empire.

I forgot what brand they own but she is old money.

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posted May 11, 2017 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting!

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posted June 04, 2017 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He actually said that French people dont have a culture! Lol seriously?

All I ask from any leader of any country is to actually have the backs of their citizens, if your own representatives dont have your back, who will?

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posted June 10, 2017 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I totally agree!

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