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hypatia238
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posted June 16, 2017 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So since pluto is this planet we are are all so fascinated with I decided to generate the discovery chart for Pluto! I am not surprised with what I found as it matches my experience with heavy Plutonic relationships!

Markers in Discovery Chart of True Love:
1. Sun conjunct Venus, Venus conjunct Valentine
2. Jupiter conjunct Ceres exact
3. Neptune (the higher octave of Venus) conjunct Agapenor exact (the asteroid of unconditional love)
4. Poseidon (h47) trine exact BML (loving without possessing that leads to healing)

Markers in Discovery Chart of Erotic Love:
1. Mars conjunct Eros and Atropos all exact

Marker in Discovery Chart of Star Crossed Lovers
1. Pyramus (Greek Romeo) conjunct Thesbe (Greek Juliet) by 1d in Scorpio!.

Other note worthy markers:
1. Pluto trine Psyche exact
2. Alma conjunct Juno widely
3. Moon in Scorpio
4. Pholus trine Northnode and sextile southnode
5. Moon conjunct Southnode opposite Chiron conjunct Northnode

*Thesbe, Pyramus, and Moon all been in the same sign of the Southnode in Scorpio show how these soulmates feel fated and familiar like we have met before in previous lives. However, its closeness to the southnodes also indicate that these are relationships meant to transform us yes marking a turning point in our lives or to trigger needed healing work but that we are also meant to leave behind and outgrow.

It seems the ultimate fate of such relationships is a type of death and transformation that leads to healing and self-actualization (chiron conjunct northnode) that is achieved through erotic love (mars conjunct eros squares chiron conjunct northnode opposite moon conjunct Southnode). Mars conjunct Eros is the vehicle that takes you from that place of pain coming from realizing that love is not enough and having to sacrifice that love in order to grow spiritually (chiron conjunct northnode).

Pluto is about the power of love and erotic love in healing and understanding that love is a vehicle to a bigger goal (chiron) that requires you to let go of that which you love so deeply and learn to love it without possessing it (poseidon trine BML, agape conjunct neptune). Its about letting erotic love and love transform you and then also been able to release that person you love to achieve a bigger goal.

Two soulmates come together and transform themselves with their unconditional love and via their intense sexual connection and achieve healing via this vehicle but then go their separate ways yet their souls will always be connected and forever transformed by their union (alma conjunct juno). Is a marriage of the souls, not a marriage license type of connection. The ultimate goal is transcendence, healing, personal growth and a bond that cannot be broken bc is an union of the souls.

I will post the discovery chart in the next post.


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posted June 16, 2017 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto been the God of the underworld ruling the taboo and forbidden it makes sense it has the asteroids that represent romeo and juliet conjunct, a forbidden love theme...

Ultimately a big reason Romeo and Juliet came together is to bring peace between two families who were at war so the goal indeed is to use love as a vehicle for healing that benefits the whole (chiron conjunct Northnode). But in order to get there a type of death must take place, a kind of sacrifice.

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posted June 16, 2017 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here it is. What are your thoughts on the discovery chart?

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posted June 17, 2017 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Becoming possessive brings the toxic side of pluto instead of the transformative side, it brings out the obsessiveness and insecurities trapping you into the lower manifestations of pluto instead of letting the lower manifestations pass away so you can be taken to that place of transcendence.

One of the lower manifestations of pluto is pride, falling into the trap of power struggles or fear. For a pluto relationship to last both have to be evolved enough to not fall into either of those traps and have to meet when both are single.

The thing with pluto is that it has this tendency to bring your shadow side to the surface which ultimately destroys the relationship but then sets you in a long journey to learn to understand your shadow side and work through it and you are then forever changed by it. The result is a more evolved whole version of you but it could feel like surviving hell to get to the other side in some cases like if there is a lot of inner work that needs to get done.

Part of it is about learning to enjoy desire and give into it but without it ending up controling you. Pyramus conjuncts Thesbe in the pluto discovery chart so there is a lesson there of parts of you dying and transforming in order to change this belief of "I cant live without them." Pluto teaches us that we can heal and survive the worse kind of heartache and how love can feel like a drug but it can also transform you and help you reach your higher self.

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posted June 17, 2017 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting how in the discovery chart sun conjunct venus squares jupiter showing how the ego and pride can easily get in the way of the relationship lasting with venus sesquiquadrate pluto..

Add Pyramus conjunct Thisbe and there are a lot of challenges at play with pluto but equally as much beauty.

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posted June 17, 2017 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually LUCIFER in ARIES is inconjunct the SOUTHNODE exact in the discovery chart! WOW

Talk about the need to outgrow pride (lucifer) in order to reach the northnode goal and reap the rewards of pluto. How often do we experience pride getting in the way of these powerful connections and ruining a beautiful thing...

Having sun conjunct Venus square Jupiter strengthens this tendency of the ego getting in the way of love..

It also explains the rep pluto has for been vindictive, vengeful, holding grudges and pridefulness; it comes from Lucifer in Aries inconjunct Southnode exact. Its actually the tightest aspect in the chart and inconjunctions are very karmic which takes this to another lever if the southnode is involved:

Southnode in Scorpio @5d10
Lucifer in Aries @5d16

Second tightest:
Agapenor in Virgo @2d10
Neptune in Virgo @2d17

Further with the moon conjunct Southnode this hints to the need to balance out emotional attachment and over dependency.

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posted June 18, 2017 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting the discovery chart that represents the fallen angel (Pluto) has sun conjunct angel exact

Pluto in Aquarius at 29d24
Angel in Aquarius at 29d30

So a 0d06 conjunction just as tight as Lucifer inconjunct southnode lol

The two tighest aspects in the the discovery chart..

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posted June 19, 2017 09:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for yungang_grotto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Loving your work with discovery charts Just had to say it. Have had this tab open for a while, and I keep refreshing expecting to see folks bein like HELL YEAH. But since they aren't, here I am.

I love your reflections on the nature of Pluto in our relationships. Absolutely, the need is to let go... and love unconditionally... then true power flows and we are fulfilled in all the ways we wanted but were actually cutting off the flow of that fulfillment through the suffocating force of our attachment and attempts at control... let go...

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posted June 20, 2017 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:

Loving your work with discovery charts Just had to say it. Have had this tab open for a while, and I keep refreshing expecting to see folks bein like HELL YEAH. But since they aren't, here I am.

I love your reflections on the nature of Pluto in our relationships. Absolutely, the need is to let go... and love unconditionally... then true power flows and we are fulfilled in all the ways we wanted but were actually cutting off the flow of that fulfillment through the suffocating force of our attachment and attempts at control... let go...


Thank you so much for commenting, glad someone read this and a scorpio herself

Another thing I noticed that you will find interesting is that the discovery chart of uranus has pluto in aquarius and the discovery chart of pluto has sun in aquarius and both have that theme of "unexpected changes" both have this element of shock going and shaking up the system.....

So cool

Glad you are ok

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posted June 20, 2017 05:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Beautiful_Light     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Moving to Asteroid Astrology.

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