posted June 23, 2017 07:33 AM            

Today i have a question about communication between 2 people.
What would be the indicators of a flowing and easy communication, even if the 2 of them dont always agree but are "tuned" ?
And also what would make 2 people feel like they're dumb when they talk because they dont understand each other and dont feel understood?

posted June 23, 2017 08:03 AM            

Hard aspects between Mercury and Saturn
Hard aspects between Mercury Neptune
Saturn in someone's 1st house

This comes from my personal experiences.

posted June 23, 2017 08:16 AM            

oh, i never thought about Saturn in 1st this way.. shouldnt it be supposed to be saturn in 3rd that'd block communication?

What about both mercury R that would find a hard time being able to express themself ?

posted June 23, 2017 09:20 AM            

I dont know, i thought saturn in 1st was more like "i feel i have to watch myself when saturn is here. dont do somehting stupid, do things well"

posted June 23, 2017 06:17 PM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
I don't know about 3rd house Saturn.. I just assumed that Saturn in 1st house would restrict your style of expression in many ways, including communication. You'd feel a bit intimidated by this person.

Mercury Rx in a natal chart? You know there's a thing with natals.. For example my boyfriend has natal Mercury (in Libra) square Saturn!! Now you'd assume this guy has difficulties expressing himself, probably isn't the brightest etc ... Well on the contrary! He speaks 6 languages fluently!! He's so funny with accents! He can impersonate all kinds of people, he's quiet intelligent, and he learns new languages so fast, it's insane! But as a child he had speech difficulties! His mom told me that she used to be so worried about him, because it took him very long to start speaking as a baby and as a little boy he stuttered quiet badly.

Despite his many talents I mentioned above, he's not someone you'd consider a chatter box. He takes his time to answer to questions, but when he does it's always quiet precise and on point.

There's always a chance to outgrow our natal charts!

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posted June 26, 2017 04:45 AM            

Where are your mercuries ? what sign / house ?

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Originally posted by SunAscendant:
Mercury, the planet of communication, 7th and 1st house compatibility

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posted June 26, 2017 09:22 AM            

My boyfriend's Libra Mercury is in H4 square Capricorn Saturn in H6 conj DSC.

My Pisces Mercury is also in H4 sextile Saturn in H1. I was very self-conscious and shy as a child. Never talked much. Today communication is my strong point and basically my profession.

I looked up our synastry and composite. If you're interested in that, here are our aspects:

Synastry: my Mercury trines his moon, opp his mars, trines his pluto, trines his ASC, conj his MC

His Mercury trines my Jupiter, sextiles my Sarurn (my natal aspect!), squares my Neptune (his natal aspect!)

We do speak a lot, although it's not without problems. Speaking about feelings comes easy, but we don't always get each other's humor. Sometime's I feel like we're too serious. He sometimes feels that I'm not being honest. This actually is true.. I'm telling "white lies" quiet often, which is not a big deal for me, but a huge deal for him! So I'm working on that.

In composite our Merc is in H4 conj Saturn and Uranus by 1degree, opp Mars H11, trine Jupiter H8!

That describes pretty well, the kind of conversations we're having. We mostly talk about our feelings, our childhood/life experiences, hopes, dreams, friends and sex!! We talk a lot about sex and often while we're doing it. That's actually the best and most interesting part, about our conversation. (Comp Jupiter is in H8! ) We often disagree when it comes to friends, and our hopes and wishes! (Mars opposition in H11! ) We're quiet often not on the same page! I often feel that he belittles my aspirations. There's not much support! I also think that the Comp Saturn conjunction in H4 is responsible for the rather "serious tone", but still our style of talking with each other is rather unusual. We talk about a lot of things, most people wouldn't feel comfortable talking about. Especially with their partner. (Uranus conjunction)
Wow, I just realized, I've never "dissected" our relationship like that! I'm amazed what astrology can disclose!

So if you're really interested in how two people interact with each other, I think the Composite is quiet revealing, at least in our case!

posted June 26, 2017 11:58 AM            

it's kind of "fun" to see that you too talk a lot but don't necesseraly agree .. but still talk and enjoy talking together

posted June 26, 2017 12:58 PM            

1) "Tuned in" communication:
Flowing aspects (sextile, trine, conjunction, parallel) between Mercury and any other planet, between personals/luminaries and Uranus/Neptune.

2) "Misunderstanding" communication challenges:
Hard aspects (square, opposition, contra-parallel) involving Moon/Mercury/Asc to Saturn/Neptune.

In no way does a single such aspect alone indicate either pattern. Someone who is very close to me has her Saturn square my Mercury and we are soul mates across numerous lifetimes and have ease of understanding.

posted June 27, 2017 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Welcome Zhooey. Good question for your first post.

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Thank you, i'm so happy to be here! And yes, i can't imagine a nice relationship whithout a nice communication

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

1) "Tuned in" communication:
Flowing aspects (sextile, trine, conjunction, parallel) between Mercury and any other planet, between personals/luminaries and Uranus/Neptune.

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So, let's say a moon/uranus would do the trick ? even if it's an opposition ? or would it create tensions ?
(this is a general question but i have someone in my mind that makes me wonder. my guess is a 9th gemini moon opposite uranus in sag shouldn't be so bad?)

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

2) "Misunderstanding" communication challenges:
Hard aspects (square, opposition, contra-parallel) involving Moon/Mercury/Asc to Saturn/Neptune.

In no way does a single such aspect alone indicate either pattern. Someone who is very close to me has her Saturn square my Mercury and we are soul mates across numerous lifetimes and have ease of understanding.

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Yes of course! How do you feel being squared by her saturn ?

posted June 27, 2017 08:57 AM            

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Originally posted by ana_bee:
He has the Mercury/Neptune square in his natal chart. Usually this aspect stands for some kind of confusion/deception. This aspect repeats itself in his synastry with me. I am Neptune, he is Mercury.

To give you an example... He always calls people out, when they're lying. Honesty is the most important thing to him! He won't even "lie" out of courtesy.. But ... Although he doesn't lie to my face by saying something that isn't true, he "lies" by being vague.. Either by omitting information, changing the topic, answering the question with another question, or he says nothing at all and just stares. This can get quiet frustrating!

Example: He says "There's a concert this Friday!" I'm asking "who are you going with?" He says, "With the guys!" I say, "oh nice, what band?" He says, "oh there are many bands, it's like a festival!" I say "cool have fun!" Later I find out that although there were many bands playing, the main reason he went, was because his ex-girlfriend's band was playing, and she invited him! She even put him and his friends on the guest list. To me this is a crucial information!! He says it doesn't matter. Why should he mention her, she's not important anymore. He would've gone to the festival anyway! In a way he's right.. But still, to me it feels strange!

You see, we're coming from two different points: He thinks he doesn't want to make an issue out of something, so he won't mentioning it. I think, when you withhold certain information, you do make an issue out of it!

Another example.. He gets frustrated with me, because I do sometimes lie to his face. It's nothing huge... More on the level of... "did you send the email, I asked you to send?" And I'll say, "Yes!" although I haven't ... but then l'll do it immediately. I just sometimes don't like to admit how scattered and lazy I am. I know it's stupid to be dishonest like that. I could just say, "no sorry, I forgot, but I'll do it right now!" Stuff like that. But I don't. I often lie, to save face. Which is very immature on my part, I know, but sometimes I can't help myself.

The good thing is, we can talk about all this! We can both call each other out, when something seems off! We talk, we discuss, we fight... we make up. In the end, although we'll probably never think alike (our mercuries are not touching), we do learn where the other's coming from. You get used to the other person's thinking pattern. It's like learning a different language!

Of course we'll always feel most familiar with our own language, but that doesn't mean we can't learn to appreciate and master someone else's. I hope!

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Oh wow, you're just like i am ! I always tell lies "yes, i paid this", "yes, i scheduled that", stuff like that, just because im sooo lazy and easily forget things that i dont have any interest in

About your guy, i'd do the same. why would i tell you im gonna meet my ex bf if i know nothing wont happen ? you dont need to know, i know you're gonna worry, wonder.. for nothing, so i wont tell you, its way more simple this way
But i understand why you would want to know ...