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GrlyGirl200
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posted July 09, 2017 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm a little confused about skipped steps in the natal chart and how one fills that void when in synastry. I wanted to know if anyone had any personal experiences or knowledge of what this means for both people in terms of relating. Or even what it means in one's natal chart.


A little background:

I've spoken about a Libra man that I'm quite drawn towards. I'm actually trying to figure out what I'm meant to learn from meeting him and that will help me. I can't help but feel that he is literally some sort of version of myself or my mirror (I'm not entirely sure to be honest). I know I met him for a reason, it's just figuring out why.

We met a few months ago at the gym. I walked in and asked the instructor for help with adjusting a bike...I walked past him (in which he saw my face...I'm not sure how well. It was a spin class and the lights were dimmed) but was focused on her and didn't pay any attention to anyone else. I was in the row behind him and didn't see his face, but literally I just kept staring at his back. I felt...not attraction but something else. Class ended and I said something in passing about how awesome it was to the person next to me. He heard and added that it really helps increase the endorphins, I went to the front to get material to clean my bike and saw that he was looking at me, he smiled...I smiled back and we've been friend like since (and yes I've been smitten since). Synastry wise things that point to karma include: His Mars-Uranus Conjunction Conjunct my Vertex-Saturn Conjunction. My Vertex ruler is Conjunct his Mercury. His Mars-Uranus Conjunction is one of his skipped steps as it's Square his North Node. He also has a square of Chiron in Taurus to his North Node. His Chiron is Conjunct my NN in Taurus. My natal Jupiter is Square my NN as my skipped step. My natal Jupiter is Conjunct his SN.

Similarities:
- His Sun is in Libra Conjunct Saturn
- His Moon is in Cancer

- I'm a Cancer Sun/Asc/Mars
- I'm a Cap Moon in the 7th Trine Venus

** My Cancer Sun is in the 1st Opp the Libra ruled 7th House. His Saturn Conjunct his Sun is ruled by the 10th which is Opp that of the 4th house (Cancer house). Our Suns are Square by orb.

- Our Moons are Opp by orb (his in Cancer and mine in Cap)

- His Mercury is in Scorpio
- My Mercury is in Leo Square Pluto

**My Mercury is in the 2nd house which is Opp the house that rules Scorpio (the 8th). Our Mercuries are Square by orb.

- His Venus is in Leo Square Uranus
- My Venus is in Taurus in the 11th

**My Venus is in the 11th which is Opp the house Leo rules (the 5th). Our Venuses are Square by orb.

- His Mars is in Scorpio Conjunct Uranus, Squ Venus (in Leo) and Sextile Jupiter
- My Mars is in Cancer Conjunct my Asc and Sun in the 1st. Mars is Inconjunct my Uranus and Jupiter Sextile (forms a Yod). His Scorpio Mars is Trine my Cancer Mars.

Other things worth noting that are interesting:

- His Venus in Leo Square Uranus and Scorpio Mars...my Mercury in Leo is Square Pluto, and Trine Uranus
- His NN in Leo is loosely Square my Taurus NN (by 3 degrees. Plus my NN is in the 11th/5th house axis and his is the Leo/Aqua Axis)
- We both have Juno in Libra Conjunct each other
- We both have Venus VERY loosely Conjunct our NN (him at an orb of 8 degrees...me at an orb of 9 degrees)
- We both got Psychology undergrad degrees
- We're both married and/or with Aquarius Sun partners that have Martian Moons. His wife is an Aquarius with Aries Moon, my bf is an Aquarius with Scorpio Moon
- I was born on a Wednesday while my Aqua/Scorpio bf was born on a Friday
- He was born on a Wednesday while his Aqua/Aries wife was born on a Friday


Anyway, I know this is a lot, but I am struggling to find out what to make of all of this, and how to learn from it if possible. I feel that there is a pretty major connection evident (at least from my side) and know it isn't going anywhere as it can't (I don't even know what "it" is). I'm actually in the middle of ignoring him as of now as he is married (Pluto in synastry doesn't help that), and I'm with someone. We have in synastry some intense aspects that point to a lack of objectivity (I'm calling you out Moon and Mars Pluto Square...Moon Opp/Conjunct Composite lol). So if anyone has anything to add I'd really like that. And yes, I'm aware I'm talking in circles now lol.

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Orange
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posted July 09, 2017 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm too the skipped step in my synastry with my aries man. Ours is particularly telling since it involves my Venus. His Saturn is his own skipped step in his natal , being in a tight square to his Nodes. My Venus conjuncts his Saturn and squares his Nodes ( 1'). Looks like an unfished love story from a past life. The most stunning fact is that we started our relationship when the transiting Nodes passed over this skipped step exactly. Such an alignment, it is amazing to think about it.

The skipped step in natal and synastry is being discussed here in this thread, its a good one http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002561.html

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hypatia238
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posted July 09, 2017 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Orange:
I'm too the skipped step in my synastry with my aries man. Ours is particularly telling since it involves my Venus. His Saturn is his own skipped step in his natal , being in a tight square to his Nodes. My Venus conjuncts his Saturn and squares his Nodes ( 1'). Looks like an unfished love story from a past life. The most stunning fact is that we started our relationship when the transiting Nodes passed over this skipped step exactly. Such an alignment, it is amazing to think about it.

The skipped step in natal and synastry is being discussed here in this thread, its a good one http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/002561.html


That is awesome Orange! I love your venus activates his skipped step and that the transit nodes were conjuncting this. Clearly meant to meet. Perhaps you came into his life to finish a love story but also for you to teach him about love and relationships.

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posted July 09, 2017 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Grlygirl. What sticks out the most to me is your Jupiter conjunct his Southnode square your nodes. I feel this is the key of why you met. He has gifts he was born with that are supposed to expand your world in some way. He helps you connect with your Jupiter and just by been him expands your mind perhaps.

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GrlyGirl200
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posted July 10, 2017 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks! I wish Aubyanne was around to give her two cents. I know this man is something, I don't want to say soulmate or twin flame because I'm a logical Cap Moon...and I don't believe in that (I do believe it could be possible but is rare). But I know he is something and I'm meant to learn something in regards to him. My big reason for this in addition to the above I listed is the dw Conjunction of each of our respective Angel Astroids (11911) being directly Conjunct the others Saturn.

One convo we had one time actually talked about "the one" lol...I asked him how did he know his then fiancée was the one...he said, "the one doesn't exist." I asked him why was he getting married. He replied, "because we (as in her and him) get along and had been together long enough."

I'm wondering if the info you provided is the key to figuring out this connection. It doesn't feel panicked or obsessive but I do think about him all the time.

Another thing I noticed that I'm a little weirded out about:

**I don't know how if this is correct or if I'm reaching to make these connect.

- My Sun in my 1st house Opp is 7th house = He's a Libra Sun
**My Moon is in the 7th house. The Opp of the 7th is the 1st. My 1st is in Cancer = He's a Cancer Moon
- My Mer in 2nd house Opp is 8th house = He's Scorpio Mer
- My Venus in 11th house Opp is 5th house = Leo Venus
**My Mars in my 1st house. The Opp of that is the 7th. - - My 7th house is Capricorn and ruled by Saturn. My Saturn is in Scorpio = He's a Scorpio Mars

Draconic wise we have similar charts:
Draconic Sun - mine: Taurus, his: Tau
Draconic Moon - mine: Sag, his: Aquarius
Draconic Mer - mine: Gemini, his: Gemini
Draconic Venus - mine: Aries, his: Aries
Draconic Mars - mine: Taurus, his: Cancer

He's a life path numerology # 11
I'm a life path numerology # 33/6

We met on March 3rd

From events that occurred from before I moved in state to my current area (which would not have happened if hadn't moved as he has never lived out of state. Let alone been to the South. I also never would have moved here if my bf didn't get this job in this area, and I lost my job right before I moved here. That's why I actually came) to when I met him was 8 months exactly. My birthday July 3rd is exactly 8 months until March 3rd (infinity number)

My birthday (July 3rd) is exactly 3 months till his bday (October 1st). I was born on the 3rd, he was born on the 1st.

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hypatia238
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posted July 10, 2017 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That angel conjunct saturn double whammy sounds lovely with jupiter conjunct southnode, it feels like a spiritual theme, like somehow this is suppose to wake up your spirituality in some way by expanding your views on spirituality.

I have this with my recent crush that I have let go of:

His Southnode Quintiles my Southnode
My northnode quintiles his Northnode
Saturn opposite Saturn
His Saturn conjunct my Juno
My Saturn trine his Northnode, sextile his SN
His nessus conjunct my Southnode

It felt fated that we met but I now feel like we were suppose to wake something up in each other and brush passes and then move on..

I do feel I learned a valuable lesson about desire and love. I learned that limits and rules exist for a good reason and that is not always a good idea to act on a desire and that sometimes love is letting go of someone. That you don't always have to respond to pluto's call to be be with someone, that sometimes the right thing to do is to ignore pluto and let them go bc that is what is truly best for them even though is not what you want. That sometimes that is what love is, letting go of what you desire.

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GrlyGirl200
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posted July 10, 2017 11:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl200     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
That angel conjunct saturn double whammy sounds lovely with jupiter conjunct southnode, it feels like a spiritual theme, like somehow this is suppose to wake up your spirituality in some way by expanding your views on spirituality.

I have this with my recent crush that I have let go of:

His Southnode Quintiles my Southnode
My northnode quintiles his Northnode
Saturn opposite Saturn
His Saturn conjunct my Juno
My Saturn trine his Northnode, sextile his SN
His nessus conjunct my Southnode

It felt fated that we met but I now feel like we were suppose to wake something up in each other and brush passes and then move on..

I do feel I learned a valuable lesson about desire and love. I learned that limits and rules exist for a good reason and that is not always a good idea to act on a desire and that sometimes love is letting go of someone. That you don't always have to respond to pluto's call to be be with someone, that sometimes the right thing to do is to ignore pluto and let them go bc that is what is truly best for them even though is not what you want. That sometimes that is what love is, letting go of what you desire.


You're kinda weirding me out lol. We have most of what you listed.

- My NN is Square his NN
- His Saturn (and Jupiter loosely by 6 degrees) is Conjunct my Juno. We have Conjunct Juno signs
- His Saturn is Sesquisquare my NN
- My Saturn is Square my NN
- My Nessus is loosely Conjunct his Venus (by 9 degrees)
- My Nessus is Conjunct his NN (by 2 degrees)
- His Nessus is Conjunct my Mars (loosely by 8 degrees)
- His Nessus is Opp my Moon by 1 degree

We also have other stuff:
My Apollo & Amor are Conjunct his Venus
My Alma is Conjunct his Sun
My Valentine is loosely Conjunct his Mars (by 6 degrees)

I don't think we are twin flames or soul mates because the astroids Isis and Osiris are not Conjunct each other in a Tropical Chart. Mine are in Virgo and Libra, his are both in Leo. In both of our Draconic to natal charts our we have a dw and Conjunction of Isis and Osiris.

- His Draconic Isis is at 4 degree Aries. My natal Osiris is at 4 degrees Libra
- His Draconic Osiris is at 25 degrees Pisces. My natal Isis is at 20 degrees Virgo
- My Draconic Isis is at 4 degrees Leo. His natal Osiris is at 14 degrees Leo
- My Draconic Osiris is at 17 degrees Leo his natal Isis is at 23 degrees Leo

I'm not sure how much of a big deal it is, or if it's rare. My current so has his Natal Isis Conjunct my Draconic Osiris, while his Natal Osiris is Conjunct my Draconic Isis (we also have a Saturn NN Square, and a Amor Venus Conjunction).

Anyway how long did it take you before you realized this lesson from him? I literally think about him all the time, but it's not the guy wrenching type of thinking or longing I do when I'm in the middle of a Plutonic obsession. I feel peace. I want him to be happy but with synastry like this I also know I met him for a reason. And I want to find out why. And how will it help me grow.

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hypatia238
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posted July 11, 2017 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the Southnode is like an ascendant! I often see the Southnode more than the ascendant in people when it comes to their personality so the way I see it your Jupiter conjunct his Southnode is like he is mirroring for you your skipped step and what you need to do to resolve this karma just by been himself.

I think there is a compulsion like all pluto connections, you have mentioned you can't stop thinking about him in other threads and you have him actively in your mind but I think that is how pluto works. I do feel that once you start letting go you do start to feel that sense of peace you are talking about so maybe you are at that phase at this point.

I will keep synastry aspects involving asteroids under 2 degrees, at most 3d. I would not count an 8 to 9 degree conjunction involving nessus.

Like his nessus conjuncts exact my southnode. All the aspects I listed are very tight. Interestingly my husband's Nessus conjuncts his Mars very tightly by 1d.

I have been processing this lesson for probably the past 2 weeks at least, a lesson I had already learned but am relearning it at a deeper level. This is a lesson that perhaps I have been learning for many years (the letting go part) but connecting with him triggered an ability to fully integrate the lesson in its final stages perhaps. Like pushing a lesson I already learned to another level so to speak.

When a pluto connection does not evolve quickly and stays stuck in a place of me thinking of them, I have learned to let go quickly. I did pray for him very deeply and truly wished him from the bottom of my heart in a an extremely selfless way for him to find peace, get his life together like he hopes and get to a place in his life were he feels content. I have never prayed for someone like that before. I feel that I probably burned off any karma him and I had with that prayer that day but I felt from the start deep care for him, unconditional love towards him so that helps to be able to pray like that for someone.

I feel Isis conjunct Osiris is over-rated, is one of the many couple's asteroids and gives you an idea of the tone of the relationship. My parents have this exact and they are very christian, actively involved in the church together. I am my only father's daughter and I have sun conjunct Horus exact lol. Based on my chart and a dream I had is safe to say that if past lives exist I have had an Egyptian past life and my parents probably too.

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posted July 11, 2017 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this quote is a perfect for Skipped Step Synastry:

"People think a soul mate is your perfect fit, and that's what everyone wants. But a true soul mate is a mirror, the person who shows you everything that is holding you back, the person who brings you to your own attention so you can change your life. A true soul mate is probably the most important person you'll ever meet, because they tear down your walls and smack you awake. But to live with a soul mate forever? Nah. Too painful. Soul mates, they come into your life just to reveal another layer of yourself to you, and then leave. A soul mates purpose is to shake you up, tear apart your ego a little bit, show you your obstacles and addictions, break your heart open so new light can get in, make you so desperate and out of control that you have to transform your life, then introduce you to your spiritual master." -Elizabeth Gilbert

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