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Stellia
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posted July 31, 2017 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is something I've been mulling over for a while, and would love to know your thoughts and experiences.

South Node relationships are known to feel very comfortable and very attractive from the get go.

But North Node relationships are distinctly alien from the outset - they are the pull away from your comfort zone, quitting the habit you've had all your life to that point.

So how does this play out?

Does it take the planet/contact person to pull the person towards their soul purpose? If so, this is going to feel difficult, even uncomfortable until a point where they start embracing the NN journey.

Or is it that the NN person needs to be ready to embrace the journey before accepting the planet/contact person?

I'm wondering if we would see this play out like this: where there are significant NN-contact aspects in play, I think there will be a sense of needing either to already be well on the path towards soul purpose and therefore open to the 'help' from the other person's contact.

Or, there would need to be other significant aspects that will get someone past that initial discomfort so they can progress to working through those issues.

I also think for these reasons it might be that couples with NN-significant contact DWs there may be delays or just a mismatch in timing until the ducks are all in a row.

For me, I have an NN-contact double whammy with someone. My Venus conjuncts his NN (tight - 20minutes TN, 1.5deg MN), and his moon conjuncts my NN/Mars (slightly wider - 4deg TN, applying; 2.5deg MN, applying). Both are in the 7th house.

We have a very close friendship and an intense chemistry - but getting together to explore things further is not possible currently as he's working through his current relationship. That'll be his venus-mars conjunction square his NN axis, with my saturn on top ha!

We're fortunate that we have a lot of other aspects, including a tight jupiter-Valentine DW conjunction, and numerous other close contacts with angles and luminaries etc. And that is certainly helping things.

But at times there is a weird paradox of being completely at ease with each other, combined with a nervousness at moving out of the comfort zone - it's a strange sensation!

For anyone who's tried scuba diving, I liken it to the feeling of that first time sticking your head in the water and breathing. You know it'll work, and it'll open up a whole new world, but that sensation of actively ignoring a lifetime of safety advice and sticking your head underwater is scary! Then you swallow the fears and the little voice and give it a go and you have this new freedom.

Is this sense of delay or discomfort common to NN-aspect relationships?

Do you have any experience of it? Would love to know your thoughts!

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areesquivel
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posted July 31, 2017 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for areesquivel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I myself trying to understand the SN NN connections in the Synastry, back in March I met this guy who's Sun conjunct my NN, it felt so good to be with him, he represented what I wanted in someone basically, it ended too quickly too, I wasn't that person for him.

The guy I'm seeing now, his NN conjunct my Sun exact at 22 degree Cancer, don't know how he sees me actually cause its been hard for him to communicate his feelings, he has Moon conjunct Saturn natal and oh boy I can't read him, but if he feels like I felt with the other guy cause he's the NN person...

As far of the SN I have SN conjunct his Mars in Libra, and well, sex feels so familiar with him, the sexual relationship is very pleasant and familiar, don't know if that goes with the SN connections...

As for the soul purpose, I really don't know, I'm trying to figure things out myself, but he's making me feel comfortable more and more and don't know if that answer your questions really.

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Orange
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posted August 01, 2017 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Stellia,
you described my relationship in the OP. And our synastry aspects are very similar to yours. His Venus conjuncts my NN, while my Venus squares his Nodes, and his Saturn conjuncts my Venus. We also have a DW Venus-Jupiter trine. I was on the path of removing myself from a long term relationship when we met, and it sent me into a whirlwind situation. The long term relationship I was coming out, had a South Node theme, it was extremely comfortable but lacked forward movement, it was quite stale. But so comfortable. The new romance had the NN theme, and it was scary as we entered uncharted territory. I was pulled between the comfort of the south node, but was enticed to take the NN exciting path, scared at the same time. He was frustrated at my slow move, I was scared to dip my foot into the water but wanted to. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

How do you feel as the Saturn person aspecting his Venus? How do you feel as the Venus person conjuncting his NN?

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Stellia
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posted August 01, 2017 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow Orange, I just got chills reading that. What happened?

With this guy, I have no (astro) details at all of his current relationship but I strongly suspect it has heavy SN ties as they have been together an incredibly long time.

Being the saturn is really interesting. We work together and I'm older than him - and also, technically, a senior although he's not usually under my direct command.

So there's a very literal translation there. I'm also always conscious of his current relationship and try to keep things slow until that's resolved, because I can't bear the thought of being the Other Woman - even though it may be that I am here in order to fulfil that karmic contract. There is an unvoiced frustration at times at his slowness to dissolve his relationship - absolutely not for my benefit (if this does happen we will definitely need a cool period before considering anything in which I wholeheartedly recognise that one or both of us might find someone else) - but purely for his as he is unhappy. But we literally never talk about it - he needs to work through this himself.

I genuinely do not know if we will ever get a clear go at things together, but strangely I am at peace with that. I care for him on such a deep level. And I know that if we ever do get a clear go together and manage to get past the initial dating fumbles, we'll almost certainly end up married - which is a strange feeling.

Beyond anything else, we are very close friends. And we both offer something to the other to learn - he struggles with communication issues, and it's his NN and my venus conjunct in Gemini - my role in life has been about communicating.

One thing I struggle with is sharing my emotions and building relationships on an equal-footing. His moon is conjunct my NN, and he has a scorpio stellium so is much more in touch with his feelings (even if he's not amazing at communicating them with words!)

I am confident we will be around each other for a very long time, in what capacity, I don't know. I hope we get the chance to work through some of this intensity in a romantic relationship - but if it's as friends then I would rather that than nothing. (Although he is hot as hell haha)

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posted August 01, 2017 08:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It feels like a "theme" of the relationship, such as a theme of pain(CHiron) or a theme of love(Venus) or a theme of upheaval(Uranus) etc

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Orange
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posted August 01, 2017 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey Stelia, I am still in the midst of it after 3 years, it takes that slow.. I have almost processed my old relationship and cleared the way to new possibilities with whatever. Kinda scary but exciting. My NN relationship currently is on pause until i deal with my SN attachments. I am currently in transition between the two worlds.

Does your Saturn conjunct his Venus or squares it? Do you love him?

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StubbornVirgo
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posted August 01, 2017 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StubbornVirgo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I share NN contacts with a coworker - his NN is conjunct my DSC. His Venus is also conjunct my NN. All of this is very familiar...we're very close friends at work, he's involved in a relationship and I'm keeping my distance/keeping it slow in spite of his attention and affections. He's older but I'm much more cautious and weary.

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Stellia
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posted August 01, 2017 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Orange I do love him. Certainly as friends - almost in an unconditional way. I'm trying to pull back on the feels in case we can't progress things, but I feel very very deeply for him and genuinely want the best for him whatever he chooses.

My saturn (and aphrodite) is conjunct his venus-mars conjunction square my venus/his NN; my mars/NN conjuncts his moon.

We've been close for a year or so now, and talking for a lot longer than that. Definitely a slow burn.

@StubbornVirgo - this is beginning to feel like a pattern for sure. So interesting.

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Orange
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posted August 01, 2017 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see. My guy, an Aries with a Virgo Moon and Virgo ASC ( I am a Virgo Sun and Virgo DSC), also tells me all the time - "I just want you to be happy". But when I tell him I love him, he doesn't believe me. He thinks my feelings will evaporate. I am sure that's his Saturn on my Venus.

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Selenite
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posted August 01, 2017 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think it feels like, "I don't know where I'm going, but I want you there with me"

This is for Moon/NN

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Stellia
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posted August 01, 2017 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stellia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
I think it feels like, "I don't know where I'm going, but I want you there with me"

This is for Moon/NN


This is so beautiful - and so true. Do you have this Selenite? Which one are you?

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posted August 06, 2017 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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