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Lalafortunaea
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posted October 12, 2017 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What have your experiences with Saturn - Pluto been like? And what do you think about it?

I imagine it would be somewhat similar to Saturn - Mars - only more extreme and with a Pluto twist.

Thoughts?

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VestasLight
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posted October 12, 2017 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VestasLight     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn and Pluto don't usually play so nicely together in synastry. There ends up being a lot of power struggles. Of course there are always exceptions.

The one time I experienced this conjunction it was 4 wide. He was Saturn. And man, he just wanted to squelch any bit of power he saw in me. My Pluto didn't take well to it. In the end despite how difficult and painful it was, it was an incredible learning experience for me. (Saturn often ends up teaching us something.)

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Lalafortunaea
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posted October 13, 2017 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Vestas that sounds rough, and it must have been pretty stifling.

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My take on a slightly different outcome is that what could happen is that yes, it is a learning experience, and for both, even the Saturn learns something.

So, maybe one could have rigid, binding Saturn come along, try to control Pluto, who is this wild, raw, powerful, intense, transformative energy. Pluto ends up exerting their power even more, to rise up to Saturn's need to discipline and control Pluto's behavior.

In the end, Saturn could learn the lesson of not needing to contain or stifle, or rather, stifle their own need to stifle, and Pluto could learn that they are much more powerful than they thought.

Out of the bed, while they remain civil, trying to let each other be, while still being bound to each other in a maddening dance, while the Pluto constantly needs to break free of Saturn's reins, and instead Saturn is forced to CONTROL and stifle their own need to control, because Pluto is fighting them every step of the way.

I feel like this is what could create the obessive passion.

So, with regards to a romantic and sexual relationship - Saturn, receiving Pluto's obsessive energy, obsessively wants to discipline Pluto, and Pluto, constantly on guard and exerting themselves, it could create an almost explosive sexual tension between the two, wherein the only way to finally turn the release valve, is to have sex in order to release those tensions.

So, in bed (or wherever they fancy), Pluto finally let's go, stops exerting themselves, and becomes submissive to Saturn's discipline (it doesn't have to be BDSM, tho could be, or just very dominating on Saturn's part). Likewise, Saturn can finally freely tell Pluto what to do and make Pluto behave however Saturn wants. Saturn's binding nature could actually... bind Pluto, literally. And Pluto can understand that being submissive is its own kind of power. And that power, in the bedroom, will transform Saturn, and Pluto, sexually - and that will ultimately be how Pluto gets what they want, how they get the death and rebirth and merging they crave.

I think it could be expressed like that under certain circumstances.

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Lalafortunaea
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posted October 13, 2017 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Another alternative could be that Saturn plays the role as someone who cares for the Pluto person, and, in a way, does control and tell them what to do. However, in the Pluto person's chart, if the planets, signs and houses work out in favor - then the Pluto person could end up being actually happy with the Saturn person's influence, and welcome it.

Likewise, the the Pluto person, with a different chart, could often be hectic and out of control, and tend to spiral, and the Saturn could add a calming, controlled twist that gives the Pluto the stability they crave and need.

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Ami Anne
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posted October 13, 2017 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I honestly don't think Saturn/Pluto is something that feels good. One can learn but it would not be an aspect I would want in a synastry lol

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posted October 13, 2017 03:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I honestly don't think Saturn/Pluto is something that feels good. One can learn but it would not be an aspect I would want in a synastry lol


Well, my musings are all hypothetical for the moment. I don't know if anyone's experienced it and liked it, but who knows?

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Lalafortunaea
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posted October 15, 2017 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

If anyone's experienced this contact, I'd like to know your story!

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