posted November 19, 2017 08:22 AM            

Ok this is our synastry, I'm inside

posted November 19, 2017 05:11 PM            

with venus/juno square the node,there is a strong emotional and physical attraction. juno adds the feelings of commitment.
the sun is opposed to the vetex and Jupiter is square to the vertex and the sun. this gives a strong "psychic connection as well as a feeling that a commited realtionshiop could be destined between you.

the juno/Jupiter midpoint is opposed to psyche, trine to mercury and sextile to Uranus. this shows a very romantic and idealistic feeling that makes a commitment or marriage seem likely,
mercury opposed to Uranus gives a highly energized mental connection. it tends to show that both are quite foresighted and intelligent .
the moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct the juno/Jupiter midpoint and opposed to psyche so there is a very strong devotion here. I would think it is possible that you both might have already even talked about a "future" together as this pattern combines affection and devotion.
the mars/venus midpoint is also conjunct juno/Jupiter, Saturn/moon midpoints. this really shows that marriage is on both you minds.
the pitfalls might be that Neptune is opposed the vertex,opposed to the sun and square to Jupiter.the presence of the vertex gives the other worldly intensity . with Neptune present there could be a feeling of spiritual connection as well as a strong connection thru your intuitions. but Neptune can also show concealed feelings and can often weaken the impulse toward commitment The vertex though is very fickle in that the intensity of the vertex is often difficult to integrate into the relationship. the vertex can give such is
altered dimensional feelings that the normal routines and compromises of a marriage might support or to be able to include these energies. that is the energies may not be applicable to a "normal" marriage or relationship.

the eros/psyche midpoint is conjunct o chiron which can show that even with such the amorous feeling between you, there could be times of nit picking. the chiron-psyche/eros midpoints are opposed to the Saturn/Uranus midpoint which show's he may be hesitant to forego his emotional freedom and might be slow to commit

with the moon opposed to pluto and square to the ascendant , there is a emotional secretiveness, that is you both may not be sharing the deeper emotional feelings for each other.

the presence of Neptune and the chiron-uranus/Saturn mp point makes it difficult to see exactly what he feels or how he will react to the strong conjugal aspects in the chart.

but it seems that recently you and he have been sharing the optimistic romantic feeling in the chart as the Saturn/moon midpoint was conjunct the transiting south node on july 5th.and the node transited the composite psyche on oct 4th and the south node was the juno/Jupiter midpoint on oct 6th . the south node was conjunct to the mars/venus midpoint on oct 30th.
this indicates that you might have first felt the attraction and devotion between you beginning in july and the loving emotional attraction and feelings of betrothal( lol) began to get very strong into October .

as we are now into well into November and you are now inquiring about the relationship, I assume that the energies between you are slacking off a bit.

if he has not made his intentions known by now, then this may have just been a illusion.

as I've said the vertex brings a other worldly energy but it does not always turn into a solid relationship.

posted November 20, 2017 06:04 AM            

Yes there is such a crazy Vertex connections going on. Firstly the Double whammy with both our suns Oppo the other persons Vertex.

PLUS As if thats not enough, his Progressed Vertex Is Oppo my Progressed Vertex! I mena what are the odds?

My Progressed Vertex is Conjunct his Progressed North Node. It's crazy haha!

His progressed Moon Conjunct my Natal Sun.

Yes I believe the vertex energy is a bit tricky. Our connection feels so effortless and well, fated but all relationships are fated so.

He is very intune with my emotions, but I don't think he knows how I really feel. Sometimes he can act a bit cold, like saturnian cold. And he will the day after try his hardest to make it up to me. Thats what I like the most about him.

He was for ex very dismissive at the beginning of September just once though. Ignored my attempts to thave a conversation with him which made me very sad and I left him quickly with a bye. And avoided him for a week. And then I saw him at the library and walked up to talk. He acted so awkward in a good way, almost blushing and all haha. And the following days when ever we interacted I could have an absent look on my face, just sadness about not being able to reveal my feelings but those moments was just for a few seconds. And he would pick it up instantly asking me for ex "You look sad? What are you thinking about". Or "are you tired? Are you ok?". Maybe he wanted to show me he is observative and intune with me, dunno.

He will never let me hang and let my efforts go past him. He will try his best to meet me halfways, so I won't feel "needy" and clingy.

About our composite, the Moon Oppo Pluto, does this mean he maybe is as obsessed as me about this relationship/me?

Because I have a strong Pluto and lots of pluto energy in my chart I'm always like this, obsessed and secretive and maybe a bit manipulative etc when I'm in love. He on the other hand natally just has a Mercury Square Pluto in Scorpio, so I'm the super Scorpionic one. I can't distunguish between my natal Pluto energies and Composite Moon-pluto.

Does the Composite Moon-Pluto suggests he is feeling the Pluto energies too?

Oh crap that Neptune fog, I knew it! How long does this fog last? Is it anyway to make him reveal himself?

About the 4th October, I looked up my journal (yes I keep a journal of all our interactions, did I say I'm obsessed?!).

That time I had Chiron square my venus and I felt extra sensetive and sad he didn't contacted me for a week. Then I saw him at the library, he was passing by with 2 of his guy friends, it was just 2 meters btween us and he didn't saw me! Haha I was so upset!

I waited for 1 hour and he came back from lunch and now he saw me. I told him how he passed by not seeing me, I think he saw how sad I was by that even though I laughed it of. He stopped and talked with me for half an hour, and the day after he texted me to meet him up for lunch and he was persistent, so I was sure he was sincere.

November is a tricky month, since he and I don't share classes, the only thing we can do is texting to meet up for lunch. And I said last week that I really "miss him" and to not to forget to text me. He just blushed a bit to my comment.

BUT At January we will have shared classes until summer break, so I hope he will step up during that period

posted November 20, 2017 06:10 AM            

He is very Libra and Pisces. But I can feel the saturn in him too even though he just has Saturn in contact with his moon and sun.

Here is his Natal Chart:

posted November 20, 2017 06:40 AM            

What really matters are planets and their house position along with aspects. Asteroids are small, there are many of them and have very little impact on you, almost none. So instead of confusing yourself with their interpretation, focus on planets and their influence in your Natal and Synastry.

posted November 20, 2017 06:47 AM            

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Originally posted by MahaKali:
I think that people confuse themselves with asteroids and all these aspects between them.

What really matters are planets and their house position along with aspects. Asteroids are small, there are many of them and have very little impact on you, almost none. So instead of confusing yourself with their interpretation, focus on planets and their influence in your Natal and Synastry.

This synastry you added here is total mess with these unimportant asteroid aspects.

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Haha yes i think it's messy too!

I added them because first time a posted charts here a few months ago, people asked me for addindg a few "love asteroids". So thats why I added them this time

I think the bigger ones like Juno and Lilith is good to include. Those others I have no good idea on how to intrepret.

posted November 20, 2017 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by MahaKali:
He actually in my opinion has all four elements mixed together, but doesn't look to me like an typical Leo, that Cancer AS, Sun in 4th in square to Saturn makes him maybe a bit insecure, especially as Leo is generally sign who wants to be seen, noticed, maybe there is some insecurity, even if he wants to, do it in passive way, and Mercury in Leo, especially in square to Pluto can have sharp tongue in self defense.
Libra Venus can be tricky, while he can have some nice manners also can be undecidable, in 5th and to square to Mars a bit jealous and wants full attention from partner. What can make him also undecidable is his Moon in Pisces in square to Neptune and Uranus and in 11th house. He himself doesn't know if he wants friendly relationship or one full of drama, he himself is insecure but also undecidable. After all, his Mars is in Capricorn, which is stable placement of Mars but in cojunction to Neptune, so that energy is weakened, and is in square to Venus, his acts in relationship matters are unpredictable. One more indicator is Mercury as ruler of 5th house of relationships in square to Pluto. You have to start an relationship before something more serious right. But even if you look at his 7th house, he has Mars there bad aspected, there can be constant conflicts in home life one day, which also can lead to physical fights, Neptune in cojunction to DC can lead to illusions in partnership, lies. After all Saturn is ruler of 7th in square to Sun, he will have problem with his ego, and it can ruin his private life.
This is how I see this guy.

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Oh my goodness you described him to the tee! Astrology never lies! But it never cease to amaze me!

Yes he is not showing his Leo energy that much, one can only see the leo in him when he smiles and his well formed full lips. He has something I call "leo grinn", a sunny cheshire cat smile haha. And thats about it, that plus how warm he is.

The things that makes me scratch my head is; When we are in a group setting with atleast one of his guyfriend and me, he will be very bubbly and giddy. Although he has a very masculine body he has a very open cherubish face and as I said he gets so bubbly happy go lucky, always so positive. (Venus Libra, I knew it just 5 min after I met him!)

BUT when he and I are alone, eating lunch, riding the bus walking outdoors, he will get so serious. He will be as kind and warm as usual but not bubbly. He will be more calm and collected and focused. Can it be his Mars in Capricorn in play when we are one on one?
Like he wanna control his emotions to not make a mistake?

You are so right about him being insecure, and that even when he is so good looking, with a body any man would die to have for, he gyms and runs and takes care of himself very well but he will never state this or be a show off. And he seem very insecure, he can never take a compliment about himself or his accomplishments, he is very hard on himself. Saturn Square his sun at play I think. I never seen such a humble Leo or man in my life!

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posted November 20, 2017 08:42 AM            

And That Neptune -Mars really is a head scratcher indeed! I really dislike that energy, that waters down his strong March. He is so passive, will never get angry only "disappointed" as he puts it.

Yes He can be very argumentative once one starts to know him. He will listen to what you say but not really agree with you on stuff. Sometimes he starts to get defensive and argumentative just for the sake of it. First times it happened it totally blinsided me.

posted November 21, 2017 07:47 AM            

We all can work on our good and bad aspects, so two can work on relationship if they will to, but if both of people have very hard placements in their own charts, there is smaller chance to success in it. He has really bad aspects in my opinion in his own Natal, so to put some serious work for an harmonious, healthy relationship with you.

You have both, your ruler of 5th and 7th in 4th house. You are Taurus with Taurus Mercury and an Virgo rising, you have earth in you and long for stability, with both rulers of these two houses in 4th, you probably immediately consciously or unconsciously think about home life with the person you start to like. You know, your Gemini Moon doesn't act like typical one cause it's in opposition to Saturn and longs for security. Venus in 8th for deep intimacy. That conjunction of Venus with Jupiter is nice, but don't let with square to Neptune to bring yourself wrong people and to try to see them the way they are not. Maybe you will meet the right one through family or in neighbourhood, or in neighbourhood but in foreign country if you move, but as your AS ruler is in 9th, there is great possibility of it. Ruler of 7th is in trine to Jupiter aslo..

Let's say you see him as someone you would like to live with in same house some day. His Uranus, Neptune and Mars in your 4th can bring you only pain and illusion about home life, what you really want and what it would actually be is different thing. The bigger problem it would be that you could refuse to accept how things really are. Remember that everything is connected and as I told you about his personal chart and possibility of physical conflicts, his three planets, all malefics in this case fall into your 4th, Uranus conjunct your Saturn indicator, oppositing your Moon who conjuncts exact his Chiron (can hurt your feelings all the time, Moon/Chiron aspect can be very healing one but in this case it can indicate opposite), Mars here is another indicator for an tirant in the house, especially in his own 7th house of marriage and in cojunction to Neptune can bring secrets and lies between you two. With his Venus in 2nd, he could try to bring your attention and trust in materialistic way, buying you presents. With all other aspects and placements I see his Venus acting this way and Jupiter as very nice indicator of marriage in 7th house, only can give rich partner but not harmony here. His Jupiter doesn't have one single good aspect to any your planet, and has square to your Saturn and Moon, so.. With his Sun in 12th he can easily read you but soon or later use it against you if it comes to serious relationship. There is one thing I forgot about 4th house, his Saturn in conjunction to your IC and unaspected, it would be pretty hard thing to bring an peaceful and happy family life for sure.

I see this synastry more like synastry between friends, you two would function in that way fine.
With double whammy Jupiter square Mars, and your Jupiter and Venus and double whammy Mercury in 11th, you two are open for an crazy ideas, with square between Mercury and Pluto deep and interesting topics, and a lot of fun that doesn't know for boundaries as friends, but not for something more than that.

posted November 21, 2017 09:58 AM            

Its so interesting how attraction works and I think thats whats made me/makes me so excited about this guy. Also I have been single for a long time and I have no guy friends what so ever. And he is the second male in my life I felt such easy positive energies and attraction towards. And its not only on my part righ? He most feel the same attraction?

Despite him having such bad aspects he is very happy go lucky and only sometimes moody. While I'm very serious and easily feeling down and moody. If I had no Aries and Gemini in my chart and Jupiter- Mars connection, I would be a very depressive person! So his positive energies and that libra-leo charm and the pisces empathy in him is what makes me attracted I think.

But yes also, I think I'm a much stronger person characterwise and very recillient and headstrong etc.

Actually he has been in a long term relationship for a year ago. I looked his ex girlfriends chart up. They have the same birthday only she is 2 years older. Her chart does not look good to me either so they were very similar I think. Only that she also has Mars-Uranus conjunction. And her Mars conj His Saturn exactly. So they seem to have had lots of disputes at home maybe, dunno. But he is capeble of long relationships thats for sure. And also that he seem to attract strong opinioted idealistic females me included Maybe because he has such weaker energies?

Ok so I don't believe in malefic planets I have to say that. Of course venus energies are not as easy breezy as saturn energies, but I wouldn't call saturn malefic for that. With that said I get your point. And well that means I should not merry anyone from my generation! (he is 1 year older then me). Also that I should not marry anyone with sagittarius-gemini planets :/

Also I stronly believe one has to be great friends before being a couple, and you are rightm he feels like a very good friend + all the attraction because of them venus-mars uranus energies. So its easy to be blinded!

About the jupiter, I think its a reflection of our religious beliefs. I'm religious. He is not. So thats that.

posted November 24, 2017 06:25 AM            

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Its so interesting how attraction works and I think thats whats made me/makes me so excited about this guy. Also I have been single for a long time and I have no guy friends what so ever. And he is the second male in my life I felt such easy positive energies and attraction towards. And its not only on my part righ? He most feel the same attraction?

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Yeah, there is attraction from both sides. When we are in love, that weird feeling and emotions we can't control mostly, so we can see person the way we want to see, but is that person really good match for us? That's my opinion on him and synastry, but if you want to try something, go for it.

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Actually he has been in a long term relationship for a year ago. I looked his ex girlfriends chart up. They have the same birthday only she is 2 years older. Her chart does not look good to me either so they were very similar I think. Only that she also has Mars-Uranus conjunction. And her Mars conj His Saturn exactly. So they seem to have had lots of disputes at home maybe, dunno. But he is capeble of long relationships thats for sure. And also that he seem to attract strong opinioted idealistic females me included Maybe because he has such weaker energies?

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I didn't say he is not capable for long relationship, but that he can ruin relationship with his behavior.

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Ok so I don't believe in malefic planets I have to say that. Of course venus energies are not as easy breezy as saturn energies, but I wouldn't call saturn malefic for that. With that said I get your point. And well that means I should not merry anyone from my generation! (he is 1 year older then me). Also that I should not marry anyone with sagittarius-gemini planets :/

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No, it doesn't mean you should not marry anyone from your generation, or one year older or younger than you. If other person has more harmonious aspects between his personal planets and yours, the energy of these planets which fall into your 4th will be weaker. If that person has more harmonious Natal chart, you two can pretty well work on your relationship. But when guy has some critical placements in own chart and if there are bad indicators in synastry, the influence of these planets will be strong and you will feel it soon or later, cause everything is sweet at the beginning but couple will not be in pink clouds forever.

Too much Sagittarius/Gemini energy in my personal opinion is not something you would feel comfortable with. I think you wouldn't like their flighty nature and their need for freedom, you have much earth and some aspects that indicate need for stability, security and jealousy, everything these two signs are not.

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Also I stronly believe one has to be great friends before being a couple, and you are rightm he feels like a very good friend + all the attraction because of them venus-mars uranus energies. So its easy to be blinded!

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Yes, I understand this part, cause I have an Aquarius Venus with some other indicators, it's really important to me to first become friend with someone, to talk, to meet him better and then to see if that person is truly for me, if we two are for each other, so friendship is always the best start for me. But friendship is different than relationship, so yes, you two can have much fun in the club or talking while drinking coffee or what else, but will it be the same after some time of intimacy and living in the same house.

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This is why females and males is not good at being friends only. There is that attraction that drives one crazy :/.

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posted November 24, 2017 09:22 AM            

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Originally posted by MahaKali:
I think that people confuse themselves with asteroids and all these aspects between them.

What really matters are planets and their house position along with aspects. Asteroids are small, there are many of them and have very little impact on you, almost none. So instead of confusing yourself with their interpretation, focus on planets and their influence in your Natal and Synastry.

This synastry you added here is total mess with these unimportant asteroid aspects.

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posted November 29, 2017 05:25 AM            

Sorry I'm late with my reply MaHaKali!

Thank you so much for taking your time!

I don't knw how to quote in small pieces so it will be a wall of text sorry :/

I have neptune connections to my Venus and Jupiter so I'm very prone to see a person the way I wanna see him when I'm attracted to him. He also has Neptune- Mars, makes him see his actions not that clearly, I think dunno. I have made so much research about Neptune conj Mars but it seems a very hard aspect to describe clearly for some reason! (gee I wonder why)

I mean Saturn aspects are very much clearer in description, examples etc. But Neptune is as elusive to describe as the planet itself haha.

We have lots of Uranus energy in our synastry Mars-moon-Uranus. Sun-Venus-Uranus
So its very ideal for friendship and yes thats why I feel so safe with him, he really is very accepting and he is never judgy towards me, and makes me feel seen and understod. Also since I'm not swedish as he is, it feels so nice to feel accepted by him.

And yes friendship and acceptance is the ground for any relationship in my opinion too.

Haha it's great to know its not all in my head and he also feels the tension. Oh well I already know it. However it bothers me he is not as openly affectionate.

We both have hard time showing warmer feelings though. I show appreciaton by doing stuff for him, ex helping with school stuff, getting him the vitamin d,s he always puts off buying etc. Real virgo style.

I can see he is struggling to understand, does she do this stuff because she does wanna be a good friend? Or is it something more?. One time he even said "you don't have to do this, for me" And he had such serious face one could see he was really awaiting my reaction. And maybe he wanted me to say "I wanna help because I like you!" haha, But I just said "I don't feel obligated, I just wanna help, to show my apreciation because one shows that via actions and not only words".

So thats that, its like we are beating around the bush and we keep it "elusive" or how to describe it. He too have a hard time to be direct and show affection but we will see if he will open up more later on.

I'm not gonna start anything sexual with him and living together is a fantasy too but a nice one.. yeah the saturn and neptune in me clashes, all the time!

Is Mars in 7th house interpreted as the persons have conflicts at home? I don't think he is even capable of getting angry, but I think he is prone to attract that kind of girls. To even out his passive energy.

Ok so my 4th house should not be a big problem if the ther person has balancing aspects, thats great! Now I just have to find that person! Haha I'm sick of being single. Have been all my life! I'm 30 for gods sake! Where is my life partner!? (

MaHaKali I don't know if you are a woman or man? But I guess woman?

Venus in aquarius really has easier time being friends with the opposite sex what I have observed? I have very very few close female friends. Since I want all or nothing and Saturn trine Venus, I don't wanna invest my time on someone who wont give me back the same way.

Male friends I don't have any! Besides this guy and 1 other guy who is in our group and is originally his friend, and now we are all friends lol.

posted November 29, 2017 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by MahaKali:
I think that people confuse themselves with asteroids and all these aspects between them.

What really matters are planets and their house position along with aspects. Asteroids are small, there are many of them and have very little impact on you, almost none. So instead of confusing yourself with their interpretation, focus on planets and their influence in your Natal and Synastry.

This synastry you added here is total mess with these unimportant asteroid aspects.

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I disagree.After studying a lot of asteroids, they really can help define a picture, where a planets can show much (wider)more, asteroids help enhance the view. Maybe they aren't for everyone but they can help sharpen the image!

posted November 29, 2017 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by MoonMystic:

I disagree.After studying a lot of asteroids, they really can help define a picture, where a planets can show much (wider)more, asteroids help enhance the view. Maybe they aren't for everyone but they can help sharpen the image!

An artist might carry a couple different sized brushes in his toolkit to produce a more refined painting.

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i totally agree. asteriods can gives exact nuances to a chart.
but of course one must research asteroids to be able to use them