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Topic: Davison vs Composite charts
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manderin
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From: New York, NY USA
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posted March 15, 2018 10:16 AM
  
What does it mean if the composite charts shows a bunch of saturn conjunctions, but the davison chart has no aspects to saturn except a square to uranus?What if the composite chart has lots of neptune squares, but the davison only has sun square neptune? I don't understand how these two charts can be equally valid if they are so different.
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capricorncheriscty
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posted March 15, 2018 02:52 PM
I only use the composite. I have heard the Davison is flawed in its usage. Prefer not to get into it.IP: Logged |
todd
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posted March 15, 2018 05:18 PM
the davison composite is based on calendrical positions not astrological positions.
as planet have retrograde movement the davison is not representative of the real planetary positions.
in the davison only the sun, moon and sometimes the node will be the same. davison charts are of a philosophic relevance
davison himself later in life had some reservations about his type of composite.todd IP: Logged |
outofideas
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posted March 16, 2018 07:19 AM
I think both show different perspectives of the same story. If you have repeating aspects in both they will be very pronounced in the way they play out.
If you have, for example, Mercury trine Pluto in the Composite and Mercury square Pluto in the Davidson you will get a mix of both - your communication will be very deep and specific and you will tend to agree a lot etc but you might also try to 'brainwash' each other and mold the other into thinking a certain way as you will also disagree on lots of things.
This is why relationships are often so complex and you get a mixture of good and bad.
I also have been looking at the Progressed Composite lately - it tends to add to the Composite and Davidson and how the relationship is playing out.
If you can study all 3 you will get a far better picture and understanding of the relationship. But obviously you would need to study the Natal and Synastry Charts first as well.IP: Logged |
Melinn
Knowflake Posts: 404
From: Sweden
Registered: Jul 2017
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posted March 16, 2018 05:00 PM
They do show the same themes though. For instance, I have Sun trine Pluto in a composite with someone, And Moon oppo Pluto. Venus sextile pluto.In Davison, Venus and Pluto conjunct each other in Scorpio.
In composite with same person. Sun Oppo Neptune.
In Davison, Sun conjunct Neptune! And get this: In Comp Sun is in Cancer.
In Davison, Sun is In Capricorn! It's like, the same coin but different sides. And in both charts, Mars and Jupiter is in Pisces Conjunct! Just, WOW?! I dunno but I have heard from very very great astrologers, especially relationship astrologers that they are the sam. Same themes. And since you can't interprent comp etc relationship charts like it was a natala chart it makes sense. I mean, in a natal chart, it would mean totally different things having sun in cancer vs capricorn. But its not how it works in relationship charts. Also, accourding to those astrologers, the houses are not that important either. IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty
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posted March 16, 2018 05:52 PM
I have no idea what you people are saying. FIRST of all, I do not see any themes in the things you are saying. Sun conj Neptune is extremely different than Sun oppos Neptune. ESPECIALLY in a composite. The composite is the midpoint, the middleman of your two natal energies. If you have oppositions, that means the energies do not combine as a couple. Natal = the individual Composite = the relationship, the couple itself, the middleman of your energies. Combined energies, really. Synastry = the individuals overlaid, not as a couple, but as two separate entities who overlap energies when in another's presence Going by this logic, there is no way that a composite Sun opposite Neptune is the same as Composite sun conj Neptune. Composite is binding of energies. You have an opposition, there is no binding of energy there. Oppositions do not bind or combine they oppose. How can the Sun conj Neptune and Sun oppose Neptune be similar in any way in a COMPOSITE? I think many people forget that you are not supposed to read the composite like the natal chart. Davison charts are not reliable.
Second of all. Which astrologers are saying houses are not important in composites? Omg, my eyes burned reading that...If anything, it is signs that are not important in composites. You should be focusing more on the houses and aspects in composites, because, as I said before, you do NOT read the composite like how you read the natal. They are two different energies at play, coming from two completely different methods!
In order of importance in a composite it would be like:
1. Houses
2. Aspects
3. Signs Very different from natal where all three hold equal importance in understanding the individual. IP: Logged |
Melinn
Knowflake Posts: 404
From: Sweden
Registered: Jul 2017
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posted March 16, 2018 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I have no idea what you people are saying. FIRST of all, I do not see any themes in the things you are saying. Sun conj Neptune is extremely different than Sun oppos Neptune. ESPECIALLY in a composite. The composite is the midpoint, the middleman of your two natal energies. If you have oppositions, that means the energies do not combine as a couple. Natal = the individual Composite = the relationship, the couple itself, the middleman of your energies. Combined energies, really. Synastry = the individuals overlaid, not as a couple, but as two separate entities who overlap energies when in another's presence Going by this logic, there is no way that a composite Sun opposite Neptune is the same as Composite sun conj Neptune. Composite is binding of energies. You have an opposition, there is no binding of energy there. Oppositions do not bind or combine they oppose. How can the Sun conj Neptune and Sun oppose Neptune be similar in any way in a COMPOSITE? I think many people forget that you are not supposed to read the composite like the natal chart. Davison charts are not reliable.
Second of all. Which astrologers are saying houses are not important in composites? Omg, my eyes burned reading that...If anything, it is signs that are not important in composites. You should be focusing more on the houses and aspects in composites, because, as I said before, you do NOT read the composite like how you read the natal. They are two different energies at play, coming from two completely different methods!
In order of importance in a composite it would be like:
1. Houses
2. Aspects
3. Signs Very different from natal where all three hold equal importance in understanding the individual.
And I don't understand what you don't understand with the concept "theme/themes" ?! No sun conj neptune vs sun oppo neptune is not different, its basically "Sun aspecting Neptune". Whats not to get there? And we all know that if its an opposition or conjunction in both aspects it can manifest both the bad sides of for ex of the neptune, or the good sides. Also conjunction is concidered a stress aspect.
Also the pluto theme can be ssen in both of my exemples. Moon- pluto. Or Venus- pluto, the theme is obsession, pluto themes regardless.
And still, no of what I have learned, the houses is not the most important, BUT I can have missheard this.
The sun and moons houses and aspects is the most important in anycase. But there is many ways to interprent a chart so. My fav relationship astrologer is Jewel Mayberry. And she really really knows her **** thats for sure.
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