posted March 23, 2018 10:11 PM            

So, there is a particular man that has been in and out of my life for the past 8 years that has really gotten under my skin (of course). I thought I'd throw our charts out there and see if anyone saw any hope for a solid relationship to emerge.

I'm really (uncharacteristically) confused about how I feel about him. We've been getting to know each other more and more for a few years now but just as things seem to get deeper and more intense, one of us immediately retreats (we seem to take turns doing this...) Normally my Aries Venus/Mars Gemini would move on and find something more exciting (and less confusing), but I feel very strongly that I don't want to break away. I feel stuck - not interested in anything new because I feel something for this guy, but feeling jaded about this connection because things aren't really happening. Thoughts? I'm on the inside.

posted March 24, 2018 10:12 AM            

My best friend and I have sextile Suns and trine Moons (even have a Sun/Moon conjunction). My ex and I had trine Suns (exact) and sextile Moons (again, Sun/Moon conjunction). Both of these relationships were on and off and quite difficult. When things were good, sure I felt we just "got each other", but I also felt (and still can feel) frustration and irritation just spending time with them - I often feel drained and need a break from talking/being with them. And when things went bad, in both cases things got pretty ugly.

I get what you're saying but I'm not really sold on the Sun/Moon thing and the sole predictor of success. My suspicion is that because I have a tight T-square natally with my Moon, Mars and a Saturn/Uranus combo anything hitting my Moon will be sucked in to that square energy. My Sun is also in a tense aspect with my Mars and Venus so again, anything hitting my Sun would sit on that. With both my best friend and ex there are not many positive Venus connections.

My Venus/Jupiter trines this guy's Moon and sextiles his Sun. His Venus/Mars also sextiles my Sun and conjuncts my IC/opposite my Moon. Wouldn't this help to refine and aleviate some of that square enegry?

My concern is that my Saturn is sitting on his Moon/Vertex conjunction. It looks like his Saturn just conjuncts my Pluto, which I don't think has much of an impact since that's a generational thing, right? In light of some of the other tense aspects in this synastry, does it also look like we don't have enough Saturn to make this "stick"?

posted March 24, 2018 10:36 AM            

That's why this relationship can't pick up off the ground, and also why it has an infuriating obsession factor. Everything is so connected in this synastry it screams "why not"? but the connection is deeply strained.

If you're the Taurus, I can see why he would be seen as an ideal partner for you. His Mars/Venus is conjunct your IC - that alone is an aspect that will haunt you for the rest of your life. There's just something about this person that seems like they're "home", a soul mate, the most comfortable thing on Earth.

His Chiron conjunct your Sun/Mercury - the pain, healing and trauma hurts so good. His Mercury trine your Moon, when you feel understood by him, it supercedes all other interactions you've ever had with people. It's life affirming.

Then the mutable grand cross between your luminaries, a Sun sextile Venus, and a Sun trine Mars.. the chemistry must be to die for.

posted March 24, 2018 11:02 AM            

That's exactly how I feel! We have fantastic chemistry. The connection is passionate, soulful and makes me feel very much at "home". It's also intellectually stimulating and we seem to have a lot of syncronicity in our exepriences so there is a sense of innate understanding and "otherworldliness" with one another if that makese sense - basically like an intense empathy with each other.

Interesting you mentioned the Chiron aspects because I didn't realize it but there is a definite "healing the hurt" theme - he has really helped me to notice and deal with some deep-seeded wounds and it makes me feel "freed" from some of that baggage I've been carrying from it. Hurts like hell, but in the end feels amazing. Indeed, it's kind of addicting lol.

Does it impact him as well? Where do you see the deep strain stemming from in the relationship if I may ask?

posted March 24, 2018 11:23 AM            

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Originally posted by FmVenusWLove:
Thanks, SecretGeek!

My best friend and I have sextile Suns and trine Moons (even have a Sun/Moon conjunction). My ex and I had trine Suns (exact) and sextile Moons (again, Sun/Moon conjunction). Both of these relationships were on and off and quite difficult. When things were good, sure I felt we just "got each other", but I also felt (and still can feel) frustration and irritation just spending time with them - I often feel drained and need a break from talking/being with them. And when things went bad, in both cases things got pretty ugly.

I get what you're saying but I'm not really sold on the Sun/Moon thing and the sole predictor of success. My suspicion is that because I have a tight T-square natally with my Moon, Mars and a Saturn/Uranus combo anything hitting my Moon will be sucked in to that square energy. My Sun is also in a tense aspect with my Mars and Venus so again, anything hitting my Sun would sit on that. With both my best friend and ex there are not many positive Venus connections.

My Venus/Jupiter trines this guy's Moon and sextiles his Sun. His Venus/Mars also sextiles my Sun and conjuncts my IC/opposite my Moon. Wouldn't this help to refine and aleviate some of that square enegry?

My concern is that my Saturn is sitting on his Moon/Vertex conjunction. It looks like his Saturn just conjuncts my Pluto, which I don't think has much of an impact since that's a generational thing, right? In light of some of the other tense aspects in this synastry, does it also look like we don't have enough Saturn to make this "stick"?

Thanks for indulging guys

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TY.

In the charts you are figuratively comparing with good Sun and Moon connections, there are likely items that are not near as encouraging as what you have with this person. That doesn't change the fact there are conflicting Moon to Moon and Sun to Sun energies. I believe any two can make love work but it can't be one-sided IMO.

Denying self can alleviate the square energy.

The Saturn Pluto combo is very important. Maybe not the Pluto to Pluto though.

posted March 25, 2018 03:26 PM            

Taurus Sun/Moon in Virgo/Asc in Scorpio.
Venus in Aries/Mars in Gem

7th house cusp in Taurus. 5th house cusp in Aries.

Moon in Virgo- Makes you careful in emotional associations. You are a realist when it comes to relationships

Venus in Aries offers a contradiction. You can be very careful one minute, then be brash, impulsive and daring the next.

When it comes to dating, you can take chances-as Venus-Jupiter conjunct in 5th suggests that you are very attractive. But you can also be impulsive.

Most times you slide back and forth between Venus in Aries boldness and Moon in Virgo's caution.

Mars in Gemini makes u animated and lively company. Strongly intellectual, talkative and curious. And this disguises your inner Virgo nature at times- making you seem a lot more vivacious than you really are.

Since Gemini is on the cusp of the 8th,you ponder issues of life/death very deeply. And like to interact with others on these subjects.

But your Taurus Sun and DSC in Taurus suggests that you are drawn to stability.
You are drawn to people that make u feel secure and are "salt of the earth" types.

But what does he offer?

Aqua- A personality that is socially conscious.
Moon in Sag- He is a philosopher and idealist

I find Moon in Sag's impersonal in essence. The type to fall inlove with ideals and ideas, rather than being domesticated. And the Sun in Aqua/Venus in Pisces adds to this.

Moon in Sag are great as friends or even as lovers. But tricky as husbands. As they don't offer that kind of emotional consistency/availability necessary for partnerships.

The partner needs to remain emotionally independent of them in order for the relationship to thrive/survive.

5th house cusp is Scorpio. He is heavily guarded in dating or romance. Saturn in Scorpio adds to this suppression of emotional intensity. He never will willingly admit to needing anyone.

The 7th house cusp in Aqua- He is drawn to those who are independent & intellectually progressive. Even "weird".

Venus/Mars conjunct in Pisces adds to this fascination with the eclectic.

I don't think that he will offer much for you long term. He can be emotionally unavailable and out of touch with the realness and stability that you want.

As friendship goes this is great. But I am skeptical of the future.

posted April 03, 2018 06:52 PM            

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
TY.

In the charts you are figuratively comparing with good Sun and Moon connections, there are likely items that are not near as encouraging as what you have with this person. That doesn't change the fact there are conflicting Moon to Moon and Sun to Sun energies. I believe any two can make love work but it can't be one-sided IMO.

Denying self can alleviate the square energy.

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I see what you're saying - I have to agree. I personally don't shy away from square energy as I prefer friction in my relationships (maybe Mars in the 7th square Moon and an Aries Venus reflect that? Lol) but if the other person is uncomfortable with that energy or doesn't like to compromise every once and a while, things fizzle out pretty quickly. That's definitely something that I've been reflecting on here.

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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
The Saturn Pluto combo is very important. Maybe not the Pluto to Pluto though.

Saturn and Moon are good together. I like it.

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posted April 03, 2018 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Venus-Jupiter conjunct in 5th suggests that you are very attractive.

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*blush* Nah. I'm alright I guess...

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Most times you slide back and forth between Venus in Aries boldness and Moon in Virgo's caution.

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Aw, all pretty true though I wouldn't say I'm bold or daring in love. I am honestly pretty aloof on the outside. I do have Saturn on my Venus and Moon and wonder if that influence restrains the impulsive urges/passionate desires that I might have. I treat my partners like my friends and show my passionate side only through conversation (prolly Gemini Mars there) - I really like fighting/arguing with my partners...like a lot lol. I rarely act on impulses and I take forever and a day to make a decision about romance - I also over analyze anything related to feelings (hence this thread, lol) though I could see that being the Virgo influence.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
But your Taurus Sun and DSC in Taurus suggests that you are drawn to stability.
You are drawn to people that make u feel secure and are "salt of the earth" types.

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