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Solar_Leo_Queen
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posted April 23, 2018 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In a synastry chart, which one is more potent? Which one would you prefer to have? And why?

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posted April 24, 2018 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AC conjunct Venus "lets stare into each other's eyes for hours, I am curious about you, who are you? Are you an angel that fell on my lap?"

Sun conjunct Venus "I ADORE YOU." Its pure love that is given freely automatically without expecting anything in return.

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posted April 24, 2018 12:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just what came out of my gut LOL take it with a grain of salt.

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posted April 24, 2018 01:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct ASC. Because my Leo Mars is rising. Leo Venus 19-27 degrees is my favorite Venus range for prospective mates.

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posted April 24, 2018 03:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReachingForTheStars     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are 3 synastry aspects I can usually spot immediately including the ones in question. My sun and ASC is conjunct and in a tight trine to my 8th house ruler so obviously, it’s a sensitive spot in my chart. Usually, it’s the other person doing the noticing. I’m naturally oblivious to these things though, so that I eventually notice is a pretty big deal. It will involve lots of staring, deep looks into my eyes (not sexual, adoration), more staring. I’ll ignore it at first. As it continues, I’ll suspect this synastry aspect.

I’ve mostly experienced this aspect with taureans (my Venus conjunct their sun double whammy). In friendships, it’s really nice.

In romantic relationships, with the Venus conjunct my sun/ASC, the guys are usually chatty and happy to talk to me. Playful. A sense of curiosity. It has a really light feel to it. Fun mischievousness. They’re always smiling or smirking. A little bit restless.

Sun conjunct my Venus is really lazy. Sensual!!! I’d get fat off this synastry aspect.

For both, easy to take for granted.

Idk if I’ve experienced my Venus conjunct their ASC.

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posted April 30, 2018 05:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 30, 2018 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for llewsacm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Asc I would say is more noticable. I've had several friendships with my Venus conjunct their sun. I wouldn't say it's adoration but more of a natural affinity at first. Other chart synatry factors always come into play over time.

Venus with the asc is more personal, I would describe as jarring to a certain extent. Where you are intrigued by the partner and how they make you feel. Can be a little uncomfortable at first depending on your privacy level, but intriguing nonetheless.

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posted April 30, 2018 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for EmGem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Venus conjunct ASC (if Venus is male and ASC is female) because you will never ever question the fact that you are their ideal woman. It gives you an unbelievable amount of self confidence. Even when you look like s**t. They think you are simply perfect. But I’ve had their moon on my ASC at the same time so it’s “I’m so incredibly attracted to you. You’re the most beautiful thing I’ve ever laid eyes on. You also understand me, I see my deepest self in you.”

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posted May 01, 2018 06:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries23Degrees     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ven/Sun aspects are awesome.

The Sun person does a lot for the Venus person and is heavily charmed.

I think Prince Harry (Progressed Sun)and Megan Markle(Progressed Venus) have the conjunction aspect.

I have a trine with an ex.But Pluto is involved too so it makes it not so nice sometimes. Sort of dilutes the sweetness of Venus.

Venus-Asc is more intense IMO then the Sun. There is strong identification with each other in the way you two project out into the world. It is instinctual in action.

I have Asc in Aries conjunct my Sister's Venus in Aries (4deg).It has an extreme martial feel to it. When we get on, its wonderful. When we do not agree, its a stand off.

But then again, her Venus opposes my natal Mars in Libra. And that adds to it.

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posted May 05, 2018 06:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yanmorg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Me and my partner have Sun-Venus double whammy (Trine at 11 seconds from exact; Opposition at 1 degree) and his Venus conjuncts my ASC (Taurus). Our ASC are also opposite.

Major attraction since day 1.
Literally.

I love him.

He is my best friend.

Venus definitely creates a “All is well no matter what comes our way” vibe.. unless I’m associated that with our Sun-Jupiter double whammy.

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posted May 05, 2018 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by EmGem:
Venus conjunct ASC (if Venus is male and ASC is female) because you will never ever question the fact that you are their ideal woman. It gives you an unbelievable amount of self confidence. Even when you look like s**t. They think you are simply perfect. But I’ve had their moon on my ASC at the same time so it’s “I’m so incredibly attracted to you. You’re the most beautiful thing I’ve ever laid eyes on. You also understand me, I see my deepest self in you.”

My boyfriend always tells me I’m the most beautiful woman he’s ever met and that I’m the one he’s been looking for. I usually shrug it off because I don’t know how to react. My Venus in Virgo just feels awkward with affection like that 😅 but deep down I am very well flattered. I do thank him for it, if that’s the appropriate reaction.

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:
Ven/Sun aspects are awesome.

The Sun person does a lot for the Venus person and is heavily charmed.

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Venus-Asc is more intense IMO then the Sun. There is strong identification with each other in the way you two project out into the world. It is instinctual in action.


My bf’s best friend has his Sun exactly conjunct my bf’s Venus. So many times in their lives they were told that if one of them were female, they would make a great couple. I do agree that the Sun person tends to do a lot for the Venus person. I see his best friend always willing to sort of bend over backwards for him.

I was also asking this question because my bf had a friend in the past that was extremely attracted to him. She had her Sun conjunct his Venus. I sometimes wonder if he ever got attracted to her too. He has a natural affinity with Geminis just as much as me.

But also, when I first met him, I was initially extremely attracted to him. I saw him from across the room, we made eye contact, then I looked away. Minutes later, he came up to me. He also has Mars on my 1st house, just in a different sign. I dismissed the initial interaction after a few days as temporary. Although I didn’t give him a chance when we first met, I was still intensely attracted to him the second time we met again.


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Me and my partner have Sun-Venus double whammy (Trine at 11 seconds from exact; Opposition at 1 degree) and his Venus conjuncts my ASC (Taurus). Our ASC are also opposite.

Major attraction since day 1.
Literally.

I love him.

He is my best friend.

Venus definitely creates a “All is well no matter what comes our way” vibe.. unless I’m associated that with our Sun-Jupiter double whammy.



That’s awesome! I’ve had ASC opposite ASC and my Sun conjunct someone’s Venus before, and their Sun conjunct my Venus. The connection and attraction was really strong. However, it didn’t work out though. He wasn’t ready for a relationship at that time. I just let it be.

I also have Venus trine Jupiter double-whammy with my boyfriend. It’s the best thing tbh. I definitely attribute the “all is well no matter what comes our way” to this aspect. We’ve always said to each other we will have each other’s back. Forgiveness has been something he and I both learned quite easily in this relationship—even for things that would normally be unforgivable. But we also have his Venus sextile my Saturn. Saturn contacts are awesome too.

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posted May 05, 2018 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I do prefer venus/sun double whammy over ac/venus personally, venus/sun DW feels like unconditional pure love, the conjunction at least.

AC/Venus its fun at first bc you have this curiosity for each other and find each other at least somewhat attractive, especially the venus person thinks AC is beautiful but like I said yes I feel flattered as the AC person but this aspect does not get to the core of my soul, its fun for a while for sure.

Now Venus/Sun double whammy every time you see them is like a big reunion like you feel true love for that person that comes effortlessly. Its too bad I have only experienced this on a friendship level but I had this with my best friend from childhood that I know since I was born (next door neighbor) and my friends say that when I was a kid I use to say I was going to marry him but I don't remember this. He was my first kiss, I was like 7 and we were role playing we were a married a couple. He is like a brother to me though, but every time I see him my heart explodes in a way and we give each other the most epic hugs, our hugs are the bomb.

With my partner his JUNO and JUPITER conjunct my SUN and oppose my Moon and square my Neptune, Ruler of 5H. My Jupiter conjunct Uranus sextiles his Sun. Jupiter aspect my SUN and MOON and NEPTUNE is always present with people I develop more long term romantic connections with it seems. It makes sense you want to hang out with someone long term who uplifts your mood naturally and makes you feel good about yourself and life and spikes your sense of adventure and expands your realm of positive experiences.

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posted May 05, 2018 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Solar_Leo_Queen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
I do prefer venus/sun double whammy over ac/venus personally, venus/sun DW feels like unconditional pure love, the conjunction at least.

AC/Venus its fun at first bc you have this curiosity for each other and find each other at least somewhat attractive, especially the venus person thinks AC is beautiful but like I said yes I feel flattered as the AC person but this aspect does not get to the core of my soul, its fun for a while for sure.

Now Venus/Sun double whammy every time you see them is like a big reunion like you feel true love for that person that comes effortlessly. Its too bad I have only experienced this on a friendship level but I had this with my best friend from childhood that I know since I was born (next door neighbor) and my friends say that when I was a kid I use to say I was going to marry him but I don't remember this. He was my first kiss, I was like 7 and we were role playing we were a married a couple. He is like a brother to me though, but every time I see him my heart explodes in a way and we give each other the most epic hugs, our hugs are the bomb.

With my partner his JUNO and JUPITER conjunct my SUN and oppose my Moon and square my Neptune, Ruler of 5H. My Jupiter conjunct Uranus sextiles his Sun. Jupiter aspect my SUN and MOON and NEPTUNE is always present with people I develop more long term romantic connections with it seems. It makes sense you want to hang out with someone long term who uplifts your mood naturally and makes you feel good about yourself and life and spikes your sense of adventure and expands your realm of positive experiences.


The Venus conjunct Sun DW I’ve had with someone before was great at first. He didn’t judge me at first. The first time we hung out he said I was beautiful. He was a Virgo and that’s actually pretty flattering coming from one. But over time I felt more and more judged. I realized we were so different in so many ways. Even if he was ready for a relationship, it wouldn’t have worked out anyway. I think that was because there’s Virgo energy that came into play and we also had opposite ascendants. Our Moons did not make a connection either. He had Moon in Leo in the late degrees and mine in Cancer in the early degrees—so not even a semi-sextile. I think the condition of the moons truly come into play and weigh over anything.

I can’t compare it with Venus conjunct ASC DW though since I haven’t experienced the DW with anyone. This is my first time having someone’s Venus on my ASC (that I know of).

The girl that liked my bf was a Gemini sun and had a conjunction with his Venus by 2 degrees. She made him made a promise to her that he’d marry her if they were 40 and still unmarried. At first, I thought it was the Venus in Cancer being delusional, but I saw she had Scorpio moon, too. I don’t trust Scorpio moons very much even though I can get along with them. Then I saw Venus conjunct Sun in their synastry. I snapped when my bf said she did this. I flipped out on her and he stopped talking to her. I don’t tolerate disrespectful “friends”.

Right now, my bf’s Juno in Leo is conjunct my Sun by 2 degrees. He and I have some wonderful synastry aspects. I don’t have any Neptune contacts with him though, except for the generational Uranus in Aqua conjunct Neptune in Cap.

I feel like Neptune contacts will only trigger me. I don’t personally like the feel of Neptune. I might be biased but it’s the last thing I want in a relationship. I prefer Saturn or Pluto contacts over Neptune any time.

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posted May 05, 2018 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Solar_Leo_Queen:
The Venus conjunct Sun DW I’ve had with someone before was great at first. He didn’t judge me at first. The first time we hung out he said I was beautiful. He was a Virgo and that’s actually pretty flattering coming from one. But over time I felt more and more judged. I realized we were so different in so many ways. Even if he was ready for a relationship, it wouldn’t have worked out anyway. I think that was because there’s Virgo energy that came into play and we also had opposite ascendants. Our Moons did not make a connection either. He had Moon in Leo in the late degrees and mine in Cancer in the early degrees—so not even a semi-sextile. I think the condition of the moons truly come into play and weigh over anything.

I can’t compare it with Venus conjunct ASC DW though since I haven’t experienced the DW with anyone. This is my first time having someone’s Venus on my ASC (that I know of).

The girl that liked my bf was a Gemini sun and had a conjunction with his Venus by 2 degrees. She made him made a promise to her that he’d marry her if they were 40 and still unmarried. At first, I thought it was the Venus in Cancer being delusional, but I saw she had Scorpio moon, too. I don’t trust Scorpio moons very much even though I can get along with them. Then I saw Venus conjunct Sun in their synastry. I snapped when my bf said she did this. I flipped out on her and he stopped talking to her. I don’t tolerate disrespectful “friends”.

Right now, my bf’s Juno in Leo is conjunct my Sun by 2 degrees. He and I have some wonderful synastry aspects. I don’t have any Neptune contacts with him though, except for the generational Uranus in Aqua conjunct Neptune in Cap.

I feel like Neptune contacts will only trigger me. I don’t personally like the feel of Neptune. I might be biased but it’s the last thing I want in a relationship. I prefer Saturn or Pluto contacts over Neptune any time.


Judged?! LOL Either that is just his personality or I would say that his saturn is aspecting something in your natal?! What is his saturn doing to your chart? I don't think that is the sun/venus DW.

As for you not liking neptune in synastry, hey whatever works for you. I imagine neptune is not very strong in your chart I bet and hence you don't like synastry or composites that are heavy in neptune.

Neptune has this trans-dimensional feel to it of a love that transcends this earthly plane, space and time. As someone heavy in Neptune I like that.

Neptune's Discovery Chart has a Sun-Eros-Amor stellium with Eros at the midpoint of Sun/Amor. This Stellium squares Interkosmos, Interkosmos and TARDIS both sextile and parallel exact.

Neptune's Discovery Chart:

Sun stellium
Sun in Libra at 0°30'52
Eros in Libra at 2°30'20 (Midpoint Sun/Amor)
IC in Libra at 2°38 BAM! LOL Beautiful
Amor in Libra at 4°24'56 (Midpoint Eros/Compassion)
Compassion in Libra at 6° 3'18

AGAPENOR in Leo at 3°36 (sextiles Sun Stellium)

Interkosmos in Cancer at 1° 3'28
27° 1'12" N
TARDIS in Virgo at 1°57' 1
27° 8'4" N

Neptune has venus, mercury and mars in virgo which is why Neptune is so picky and idealistic when it comes to love (venus in virgo) and simultaneously why it is a planet that is passionate about serving others as mars in virgo which parallels COMPASSION is at the apex of a YOD with Pluto sextile Saturn conjunct Neptune. Saturn rules work and career and is what we feel a sense of duty for, Mars is about taking action with virgo there the sign of service and since its part of YOD this means this is neptune's purpose (Yod's are known as the finger of God), ADD that Pluto conjuncts the Southnode.

I do feel Neptune's energy is better utilized for serving humanity evidenced by that Yod with Mars in Virgo parallel COMPASSION at the apex inconjuncting Pluto conjunct Southnode sextile Saturn conjunct Neptune.

But that Sun stellium (sun-eros-amor-compassion) sextile AGAPENOR with Sun conjunct Eros square Interkosmos which sextiles and parallels TARDIS feels more like that feeling of unconditional love that transcends time and space that I associate with highly neptunian synastry and composite like the one I have with my ex.

And this is why Neptune is considered the higher octave of venus, its that Sun love stellium sextile Agapenor and that Mars in Virgo YOD. But I get that we keep reading over and over and over again that Neptune is deception here in Lindaland so is hard to trust Neptune in spite of the fact is considered by the astrological community as a whole the higher octave of venus.

The irony that Neptune's Discovery Chart has Mercury in Virgo sextile Juno conjunct TRUTH but Neptune is often seeing as deception. Juno is Married to TRUTH in Neptune's discovery chart and it sextiles Mercury in Virgo exalted.

As a neptunian person I am often distracted but that is bc I am in my head reflecting about life and a bunch of things, searching for the truth constantly, lost in my head thinking and pondering and reflecting hehehe..Yes at times I am clumsy too bc I am lost in my head thinking, reflecting, analyzing, searching for the truth...

BUT lets see what LIE is doing on Neptune's CHART and Lie conjuncts Mercury by 3d although the sextile from Mercury to truth is tighter and TRUTH conjuncts JUNO showing a strong commitment and devotion to finding and uncovering the truth. I feel people see Neptune as deception when I don't feel that is the main force behind the its discovery chart at all so its annoying that this is emphasized soooooooo much. In the end that Truth Conjunct JUNO sextile Mercury fits Neptune's reflective nature.

Lie in Virgo at 16°31'54
Mercury in Virgo at 19°13'54
Juno in Scorpio at 18°33'46"
TRUTH in Scorpio at 21° 5'30"

ALL planets operate under 3 different Levels depending on where you are at in your spiritual Journey. Rudhyar says we have to work through the three levels of each planet in our chart, and some days (and lifetimes!) are better than others for each planet. This makes sense to me since every planet has good and bad in their discovery chart.

Then add that Neptune has Nessus conjunct Dejanira which with that Sun Unconditional Love stellium and if you operating at level 1 of Neptune could lead to someone trapping themselves in an abusive relationship bc they love unconditionally the perpetrator. But even nessus and dejanira operating at level 3 would manifest in a healthy way.

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posted May 12, 2018 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 13, 2018 04:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunpixie007     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i'm a libra rising.

i met this venus in libra guy back in September and he used to stare at me alll the time lol.

so yeah, venus conj asc loves your appearance and mannerisms and venus conj. sun loves that person's identity

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posted May 13, 2018 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The guy I am seeing now we have a venus conjunct AC double whammy...I do like him, that is all I can say LOL..

"venus conj asc loves your appearance and mannerisms and venus conj. sun loves that person's identity"

I like your distinction about venus conjunct sun loving a person's identity.

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posted May 15, 2018 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes I love just looking at him doing stuff around the house, he looks like an angel to me and I like just watching him move and his mannerisms a lot.

Venus conjunct AC is very lovely indeed, is like having crush, that is what it feels like.

Like when you are in high school and you have a crush on a boy that you see from a distance between classes and you like the way he looks and moves and his mannerisms and how he carries himself, his personality maybe too.

He is a Scorpio who acts like a Leo bc he has Leo rising LOL..

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