posted May 16, 2018 03:29 PM            

My saturn squares all of my personal planets, thankfully I have some jupiter and a healthy moon to ease these squares some what.

BUT, I read often about Saturn squares in synastry. A lot of people say how these Saturn aspects will play out in synastry depends largely on the relationship to Saturn in that person's natal.

Example -

Person A's Saturn Squares Person B's Mars

Well if Person A has healthy aspects e.g Saturn trine Jupiter, Saturn trine Mercury.. Then the square between their Saturn and Person B's Mars will be 'easier' to handle.

BUT I would think that Person A's Saturn wouldn't be used to the tension of the square, (as they have trines) so the negative traits of Saturn could be more prevalent?

Like I said above, my Saturn squares all of my personal planets. Whenever I've experienced situations where my Saturn has squared someone else's personal planets, I have been able to handle the energy very well as I've been aware of this energy my whole life and able to work through these conciously. (Although this could be due to other factors in my natal chart? Maybe my Venus/Jupiter in 3rd house? I'm unsure...)

Now for my next topic regarding Saturn… I would really like some personal help with this if you could offer your opinion.

posted May 17, 2018 12:55 PM            

I find that my Saturn is often in hard aspect to people close to me. Romantic relationships I am often Saturn in Saturn square mars, in family I have Saturn conjunct ASC, and in friends Saturn conjunct Mars. I still act out Saturn, and I hear and see myself being Saturn and have to try to reel it back in. Being aware of astrology has helped me greatly to see this and work on it. Prior to finding astrology I was more prone to indulging myself in being Saturn (being critical and not seeing my own role in the interaction). I have to think that if I hadn't learned astrology, I would still be this way. Maybe?

posted May 19, 2018 09:14 PM            

'There is often an element of reluctant respect or grudging towards the Sun because the Sun can express easily and automatically those qualities that Saturn finds difficult to express and frequently fears or dislikes within himself'

---- This to me sounds a lot like jealousy and a lot like my situation. This to me, sounds as though Saturn should be the one learning the lesson... That just because you don't like parts of yourself, doesn't mean you attack others who have the confidence to express themselves. So why is it so commonly understood that the planet person is always the one who needs to learn.

Stonemoon, maybe you're right that the teaching goes BOTH ways? That the Sun (the ego), should pull back it's ego and not be offended and instead radiate compassion to the Saturn person and say 'Hey, you project your subconcious fears and dislikes onto me and I'm going to help you realise and fix that with my unconditional love for you. I'm going to teach you to love yourself and through doing that, you can support and love and rejoice for others to and you will be happy and we can last.'

posted May 22, 2018 07:36 AM            

Saturn dismisses, criticizes and judges (exalted in libra)

Saturn teaches you stuff in the long run so you may finally become a master in that

For instance if you have a natal saturn/mars aspect, you may become a great dancer or even athlete but it will take time and practice (usually after 30 years old)

if you hit the dance floor trying to impress others, and to shrug saturn off and prove him wrong, there will most likely be someone who aspects your saturn or your Mars who will bring it to your attention that you weren't good enough

posted May 22, 2018 08:21 AM            

Sun square Saturn (4 degrees)

Moon trine Saturn (1 degree)

Venus trine Saturn (very weak)

Mars square Saturn (8 degrees)

ASC square Saturn (2 degrees)

BUT I have a stellium in Scorpio conjunct Jupiter in Scorpio so I still remain fairly optimistic. Ha.

Anywho, back to the topic.

All my life I have attracted HARD saturian relationships and I can almost bet you it has to do with the truama I experienced with my dad. We have major issues in our relationship and I don’t think they will ever be resolved (Sun square Saturn in our composite) so I continuously attract partners who represent HIM in some way.

My first relationship ever was on and off for 7 years and I’m only 24!

We had Saturn square Sun, Moon, mercury, and Venus in composite. In synastry, his Saturn squared my Mercury, Venus, and mars.

Synastrically, speaking, there has almost always been Venus-Saturn in my most important relationships. Either a DW Venus-Saturn trine/square or just Venus square Saturn with either me or the other being Saturn.

My current relationship has

Mercury- Saturn DW (quincunx/ trine)

Venus-Saturn DW (trine/square).

Mars- Saturn DW (square/ opposition)

Jupiter trine Saturn (11 seconds from exact).

In composite we have:

ASC conjunct Saturn

Moon quincunx Saturn

Jupiter trine Saturn

Astrology has really helped me become aware of these issues, but I have yet to figure out how to solve them in a positive way. I want to so very badly.

All of my relationships end up becoming routine, lifeless, and argumentative to say the least although they start out with positive intentions (sometimes from both sides).

Saturn isn’t ‘bad’. Even with all of the hell it has brought into my life.

We all need a Saturn somewhere to keep us in check and on track with our lives so I get it and appreciate Saturn, but I do not understand the KARMA behind it.

Venus-Saturn in synastry is supposed to be doom and gloom and I can see how someone would feel that way, but any MATURE relationship would feel a dose of Venus-Saturn even they don’t necessarily have the aspect in synastry.

All REAL relationships require a certain level of sobriety.

Maybe Saturn just doesn’t work for people who live life feely or on edge. Saturn is for traditional types.

That’s just might take on it.

I wish I understood what I’m supposed to be learning.

That is the key.

posted May 23, 2018 03:55 PM            

There are always exceptions. Let's say Bob's Saturn opposes Mary's moon. Not a great aspect in synastry. But Mary's moon is in Capricorn- Saturn's sign. Well this aspect likely won't be as bad in their relationship because her moon's already very Saturnian by nature.

Example 2: Debbie's Saturn square's Alex's moon in Scorpio.
Debbie has only one Saturn natal aspect and it's positive- Her natal Saturn is trine her Sun.
Alex has only one Saturn natal aspect and it's negative. His natal Saturn is square his Moon just like in the synastry with Debbie. How will this relationship likely pan out? Well Alex's moon is in a bad spot being in scorpio and the harsh aspect from Saturn will be especially difficult for him. Debbie is Saturn so you would think that she would be the one more invested in keeping the relationship 'bound' BUT her natal has Saturn trine Sun so she's used to harmonious aspects with her Saturn. So she may have little tolerance for staying in the relationship even though she's the one emotionally abusing Alex. Alex on the other hand, has Saturn square moon Natally... So he's used to this aspect. It's familiar to him. The relationship still isn't good for his moon, but despite this he'll probably feel more bound to it as it feels more familiar. Alex comes home Sad about losing a promotion at work one day. Debbie tells him to shut up and stop acting like a wuss. He tells her he's hurt and would like some comfort. She offers him none and tells them they're done and she walks out the door. Alex is left there crying not understanding how Debbie could leave him so easily and now feeling sad and abandoned. Ultimately her leaving is actually better for Alex, but he'll still feel responsible towards Saturn for a while as he heals himself.

These are just some examples of how different influences can ultimately affect an aspect.

posted May 23, 2018 06:20 PM            

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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

For instance if you have a natal saturn/mars aspect, you may become a great dancer or even athlete but it will take time and practice (usually after 30 years old)

if you hit the dance floor trying to impress others, and to shrug saturn off and prove him wrong, there will most likely be someone who aspects your saturn or your Mars who will bring it to your attention that you weren't good enough

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