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Topic: When the progressions are over so is the relationship?
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ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 09:04 AM
  
I want to understand how this works so when the progressions in synastry change. The relationship or attraction you have towards a person is over with? If that's the case why do people even look at synastry and composite charts to determine what kind of relationship they have with someone? And how is it that couples stay together for 10 + years if the progression charts are the only thing that matters? IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 03, 2018 01:56 PM
Progressions bring opportunities and with that the energizing effect to CREATE. Outside circumstances line up and we spend time together. If those Sun/Venus/Mars (trine/opp/con) biggies are going to separate or will be replaced by the square things won't line up anymore and we will be separated in one way or another, whether we want it or not. < THAT is the way we look at progressions and this all in the footsteps of Paul Westran.
Synastry is just the natural way of interaction apart from wishes and dreams about a future together. For years I've found that - without exception! - when someone here on LL asked for the synastry between them and a potential lover, there was a verry (within 1 deg) tight progressed syna trine/opp/conj between Sun, Venus or Mars. Coincidence? NO! The interest IS there and we both feel it. But why doesn't it truly work out like we want us to? And there we come to our new research of the past few years, the progressed Sun and Moon together acting like a true start marker for something more serious than what we would get without it. Years ago you were already involved with a guy you had a tight applying progressed Venus/Mars opposition with, not Child? It was Virgo, right? Do you notice something changed after it started to separate? Well what I clearly notice is a reduced interest in that guy while a new interest has arisen in the guy you share a verry tight progressed Sun/Venus conjunction with. There's still much to learn about progressions. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
Progressions bring opportunities and with that the energizing effect to CREATE. Outside circumstances line up and we spend time together. If those Sun/Venus/Mars (trine/opp/con) biggies are going to separate or will be replaced by the square things won't line up anymore and we will be separated in one way or another, whether we want it or not. < THAT is the way we look at progressions and this all in the footsteps of Paul Westran.
Synastry is just the natural way of interaction apart from wishes and dreams about a future together. For years I've found that - without exception! - when someone here on LL asked for the synastry between them and a potential lover, there was a verry (within 1 deg) tight progressed syna trine/opp/conj between Sun, Venus or Mars. Coincidence? NO! The interest IS there and we both feel it. But why doesn't it truly work out like we want us to? And there we come to our new research of the past few years, the progressed Sun and Moon together acting like a true start marker for something more serious than what we would get without it. Years ago you were already involved with a guy you had a tight applying progressed Venus/Mars opposition with, not Child? It was Virgo, right? Do you notice something changed after it started to separate? Well what I clearly notice is a reduced interest in that guy while a new interest has arisen in the guy you share a verry tight progressed Sun/Venus conjunction with. There's still much to learn about progressions.
Ok but I am still involved with the Virgo I don't want to stop seeing him completely. And he is still ok with me coming so see him. So what are you saying? That things will be over between the Virgo and I? Yeah and you said that things will eventually go south with this new guy and I after the Sun/Venus progression is over. Yet my progressed Mars will be in Cancer and his progressed Venus will also be in Cancer. So we will have a Venus/Mars conjunction in progression. So just because I may like the new guy doesn't mean I can't see the Virgo as well. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 03, 2018 02:23 PM
Well let's see how life will unfold..But I can't remember having seen a tight applying Venus-Mars cancer progression. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 02:27 PM
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Well let's see how life will unfold..But I can't remember having seen a tight applying Venus-Mars cancer progression.
If I still didn't have an interest in the Virgo I wouldn't still be involved with him. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 02:37 PM
You talk like people don't have free will. Or that just because an aspect in a progression chart separates. Two people can no longer be together. If everyone had your mindset no one would be together. An aspect in astrology can not stop two people from being together in real life if they really want to be. I mean come on this is ridiculous. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 02:50 PM
24°30'32" N - mars cancer 23°16' 0" N - venus cancer IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 03, 2018 03:08 PM
I don't believe in a Free will and free will in my opinion is one of the biggest lies in society, only clumping people together in sacks and shoeboxes while being blinded by true reality. Always to the advantage of the rich but that's what most fail to see. People don't like change and usually stay together until they can't breathe anymore, a process of years until the big eruption destroys it all. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
I don't believe in a Free will and free will in my opinion is one of the biggest lies in society, only clumping people together in sacks and shoeboxes while being blinded by true reality. Always to the advantage of the rich but that's what most fail to see. People don't like change and usually stay together until they can't breathe anymore, a process of years until the big eruption destroys it all.
So why is it that the Virgo is still ok with me seeing him? And what do you suggest that I do about it? Yes I like the new guy but I still like the other too. I'm not in a relationship with either one of them therefore I can see them both. IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 03, 2018 03:34 PM
For the same reason you're okqy with seeing him. Being human and used to each other. If I'm not mistaken you both are going through a progressed composite Sun/Moon square so there's energy hanging in the air whether it will be an ongoing or ending vibe. Just let life unfold and start it up with Gem. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 04:48 PM
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For the same reason you're okqy with seeing him. Being human and used to each other. If I'm not mistaken you both are going through a progressed composite Sun/Moon square so there's energy hanging in the air whether it will be an ongoing or ending vibe. Just let life unfold and start it up with Gem.
What about my synastry with the Virgo? My Saturn conjuncts his Moon I just can't imagine cutting him off completely. He's going through a rough time financially and I've been helping him. He's basically homeless that's why I'm saying it's not easy to just walk away because of an aspect in a progressed chart. This is a real life situation I'd be worried about him. I told him I would always be there for him no matter what. It's because I'm the Saturn person I know. I'll just see both of them since I'm single. How long will the progressions last between the Gemini and I? IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 03, 2018 05:17 PM
Entirely possible to keep seeing both but it very well might be that the intimacy (well I assumed that was also part of the connection) will wear off with Virgo to be replaced by Gem. Big chance then you will be seeing Virgo less frequent. Ofcourse that doesn't mean you can't help him, which I love to hear btw. If pSun is applying by 0,5 deg to his natal Venus it will grow stronger for the next 6 months after which it then will going to separate. One degree a year for the prog Sun.IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by mir:
Entirely possible to keep seeing both but it very well might be that the intimacy (well I assumed that was also part of the connection) will wear off with Virgo to be replaced by Gem. Big chance then you will be seeing Virgo less frequent. Ofcourse that doesn't mean you can't help him, which I love to hear btw. If pSun is applying by 0,5 deg to his natal Venus it will grow stronger for the next 6 months after which it then will going to separate. One degree a year for the prog Sun.
But what about his progressed Venus in Cancer and my progressed Mars in Cancer? IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 06:09 PM
What would be the point of me starting anything with the Gemini if we'll just end up separating after the progressions are over with? IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 03, 2018 06:54 PM
None but what's the point of life anyway?IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 07:19 PM
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None but what's the point of life anyway?
What do you think of my progressed Mars and his progressed Venus in Cancer? IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty
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posted June 03, 2018 07:55 PM
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What do you think of my progressed Mars and his progressed Venus in Cancer?
Are they conjunct or are they just in the same sign? Progressions are spiritual not physical, you have to push for them to manifest. The aspects in progressions will help to further the pushing process. Just because the planets are in the same sign does not mean they conjunct and therefore, it does not mean they will manifest. Are the Venus and Mars in angular houses? Conjunct? Are they aspecting other inner planets? IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 03, 2018 08:45 PM
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Are they conjunct or are they just in the same sign? Progressions are spiritual not physical, you have to push for them to manifest. The aspects in progressions will help to further the pushing process. Just because the planets are in the same sign does not mean they conjunct and therefore, it does not mean they will manifest. Are the Venus and Mars in angular houses? Conjunct? Are they aspecting other inner planets?
Do you think it's even worth getting involved with someone if you'll just end up breaking up with them once the progressions are over with? Isn't that just a waste of time when you already know the outcome? IP: Logged |
capricorncheriscty
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posted June 04, 2018 05:31 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Do you think it's even worth getting involved with someone if you'll just end up breaking up with them once the progressions are over with? Isn't that just a waste of time when you already know the outcome?
I mean, that is really up for you to decide. I can't tell you when to break up with someone or even if you should because I've never met you or your significant other. If you feel that there is a problem in your relationships or several problems then you should definitely do something about it, but what exactly you should do I cannot say. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted June 04, 2018 07:22 PM
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I mean, that is really up for you to decide. I can't tell you when to break up with someone or even if you should because I've never met you or your significant other. If you feel that there is a problem in your relationships or several problems then you should definitely do something about it, but what exactly you should do I cannot say.
I mean because people are always saying that two people will breakup once progressions are over with. I guess no one actually sticks together afterwards.
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mir
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posted June 06, 2018 01:21 AM
True life will Always be a step ahead of the rationality of astrology. When truly living, we love the experience and go for that, we don't give it a second thought whether it will stop one day or not. Until now you're dreaming about Gem but time is running fast and pSun/Venus close to exact. It's interesting that it seems to pass by without actually manifesting, not? When it's over without anything truly happening, it would thoroughly confirm my progressed luminary statement; I don't see any investment between u both. IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted June 06, 2018 02:22 AM
when the progression is not supported by natal aspects, then, once the aspect start separating, so the connection. unless some other progressed aspects come along to the rescue.IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted June 06, 2018 02:25 AM
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Originally posted by mir:
I don't believe in a Free will and free will in my opinion is one of the biggest lies in society, only clumping people together in sacks and shoeboxes while being blinded by true reality. Always to the advantage of the rich but that's what most fail to see. People don't like change and usually stay together until they can't breathe anymore, a process of years until the big eruption destroys it all.
lol... IP: Logged |
nordicsoul
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posted June 06, 2018 02:28 AM
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None but what's the point of life anyway?
mir where is your mercury, i enjoying very much the way you reply IP: Logged |
mir
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posted June 06, 2018 03:01 AM
Thanks to child  (bulls are known for sucking my leo energy)
virgo merc exact on the asc exact square saturn and neptune making it a T cross (that's some heavy **** )
btw you caught my eye once too in that sense nordic / hence I recall something big in leo
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