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Topic: VENUS SQUARE PLUTO IN THE COMPOSITE?
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cultstatus
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posted July 28, 2018 09:20 AM
  
Curious about any experiences with this aspect, I can't find much regarding the venus square pluto in the composite only synastry. I imagine it could lead to power plays with emotions but would love to hear some real life experiences of how it has manifested! Cafe Astrology's interpretation for the square/opposition in composite:
This relationship can never be taken lightly, as it exists to transform your values and change your attitude towards love and relationship. It demands a lot from you both. This relationship starts off intensely and you are likely to become very close quickly. However, attempts to maintain this high level of intimacy and emotional involvement or dependency can eventually break down the relationship. One or both of you might resort to tricks and manipulative behavior in an attempt to keep the partner dependent, loyal, and intensely involved. Fear of betrayal or loss can be a self-fulfilling prophecy in this case. You are likely to come face to face with your own emotional baggage or “slush”–the darker side of yourself when it comes to attachments–through one another. Be careful not to demand more from your partner than he/she is capable of. It can be hard to let go of one another. If this relationship dissolves, it can easily turn into an angry battle over division of property, possessions, or offspring; or it can leave one or both parties feeling bitter, resentful, and angry for some time. As hard as it is to let go of the relationship, it can be equally hard to let go of angry feelings after a break-up. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted July 29, 2018 08:13 AM
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todd
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posted July 29, 2018 05:20 PM
practically venus square to pluto is unfavorable for a committed relationship.
first off, this aspect can give very strong sexual/carnal desires. it can show obsessional emotional attachments as well as jealousy and over possessiveness. but the main problem is that venus inherently rule emotions and love while pluto inherently is sexual and selfish. so what happens is that a relationship or affair may started out intensely sexual but over time , deeper emotional intimacy is expected to arise with continued sexual union. with pluto/venus square, this does not usually occurs. what happens is the partner who wants or expects deeper intimacy soon loses interest because this added intimacy does not appear.so after it becomes obvious that sex is the only calling card of the relationship, the sexual urge starts to dissipate by one side or both.
the pluto/venus square can finally devolve in too celibacy with no sexual interest.
I have seen long-term marriages with this aspect that have turned into sexless relationships. they may still be together but often one seeks satisfaction outside the official marriage. todd IP: Logged |
cultstatus
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posted July 30, 2018 02:58 AM
Thanks Todd, great insights.I’m wondering how much other more favourable aspects would offset this? Say, there was also moon trine mercury, and Venus trine Jupiter in the composite? In addition, what if there is favourable energy to creating a deep emotional connection in Synastry? Is it really that fatalistic with this placement? Any members have experience with it? IP: Logged |
cultstatus
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posted August 02, 2018 08:32 AM
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margym0o
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posted August 02, 2018 10:50 AM
Well, I know this doesn't totally answer your question but YES I believe anything is possible. I know a married couple, been together at least a decade (if not longer) in total and have Mars sq. Pluto/Saturn in their composite. Most would assume the worst but they seem to manage just fine! They have a pretty nice life actually, and no martial strife that we can see. They started out as friends and it progressed from there so they have a pretty strong basis of friendship to fall back on. Also kind of off-topic and I know it interprets differently in composite but in my experience I see Venus/Pluto conj. as a soulmate aspect in synastry. In all the charts I've seen with this aspect, even if the rest of the chart is just ho-hum, the couple is DRAWN together and are incredibly close. It is extremely intimate and binding. I've seen it pop up in the charts of high school sweethearts or people who are brought together again in life after a period of separation. You know, those fairy tale stories...the ones that beat the odds no matter what may be going on inside of the relationship. IP: Logged |
angel4845
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posted August 02, 2018 12:24 PM
I have the conjunction in composite and in transit. Transit Pluto is squaring composite venus and I have to agree with Todd’s explanation. That’s exactly how it resulted my relationship - totally disappointed and yes very sexual and the only component of the relationship. It’s just nasty fights, infidelity etc.------------------
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todd
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posted August 03, 2018 02:44 PM
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Originally posted by cultstatus:
Thanks Todd, great insights.I’m wondering how much other more favourable aspects would offset this? Say, there was also moon trine mercury, and Venus trine Jupiter in the composite? In addition, what if there is favourable energy to creating a deep emotional connection in Synastry? Is it really that fatalistic with this placement? Any members have experience with it?
my experience with composites is that hard aspects to unconscious planets usually over ride trine and sextiles... that is to say the venus/pluto square will not be negated by other harmonious aspects.
one reason is that pluto brings unto play such a selfish nature that there is not really a relationship based on compromise and mutual self respect.todd
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YellowGerbera
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posted August 04, 2018 02:46 AM
oh crap we have this! So far all is well but it's a very intensely emotional union for sure. We are deeply in love and if we ever break up, i can see that both of us will be deeply wounded for sure. I don't mind the intensity. I feel more secure this way. No BS, just pure desire and love to be with each other.
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cultstatus
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posted August 04, 2018 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
oh crap we have this! So far all is well but it's a very intensely emotional union for sure. We are deeply in love and if we ever break up, i can see that both of us will be deeply wounded for sure. I don't mind the intensity. I feel more secure this way. No BS, just pure desire and love to be with each other.
Interesting, so you haven't noticed any issues regarding intimacy thus far? Manipulation? How long have you been together? I personally love plutonian intensity, if a relationship doesn't have it it doesn't seem to go very far with me. Sometimes I look at synastry or a composite with an ex and think, god if only I'd looked at this I would have been more cautious, which I guess is what I'm doing with the person I share this aspect with. So far it has felt like we have been able to connect on a deeply intimate level - he lives in the city I just moved away from so it's purely talking at the moment, nothing physical, but I cannot recall someone I've been able to share such deep dialogue with and I have felt truely understands me. IP: Logged |
pire
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posted August 04, 2018 11:15 AM
I think to offset the interpretation rightly given by cafeastrology or Todd, both need to embrace their own pluto. That means to me be spiritualy active. Cause pluto brings you to the core truth and where is the core truth found if not within the self and through spirituality.The definition given by cafeastrology says it all I think. But it is unlikely we want to read it as it is cause we generally want to avoid the truth that there is ugliness in ourselves and our relationship because of our own ugliness Ps: I would add that only one partner addressing the issue is not enough here. Both need to do the work, but individualy, not starting game plays... that complexifies the matter  IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted August 07, 2018 06:14 AM
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Originally posted by cultstatus:
Interesting, so you haven't noticed any issues regarding intimacy thus far? Manipulation? How long have you been together? I personally love plutonian intensity, if a relationship doesn't have it it doesn't seem to go very far with me. Sometimes I look at synastry or a composite with an ex and think, god if only I'd looked at this I would have been more cautious, which I guess is what I'm doing with the person I share this aspect with. So far it has felt like we have been able to connect on a deeply intimate level - he lives in the city I just moved away from so it's purely talking at the moment, nothing physical, but I cannot recall someone I've been able to share such deep dialogue with and I have felt truely understands me.
Currently we have issues with intimacy but it's probably not because of any astrological stuff. We had a baby and I just got low libido from hormonal stuff and sooooo super tired from looking after a baby! My fiance knows and understands what is happening so we are doing fine! We both feel that intimacy does not always involve sexual intercourse. We feel intimate by just simply sharing and spending time together in whatever ways we can. We just love being in each other's presence. It's great that you feel the deep connection with him! Imo, mature relationships require more than just sexual intimacy. Sure it can connect people at a deeper level but I think a couple should share more than just sexual intimacy for longevity of the relationship. A long term relationship require unconditional love, trust and security - all these qualities need a deep intimate connection between the two. Try not to depend too much on composite readings though! I had an awesome composite with a guy I was briefly seeing before and it was terrible! Never worked out with him and I felt heartbroken! IP: Logged |
swampys
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posted November 10, 2023 01:23 AM
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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
oh crap we have this! So far all is well but it's a very intensely emotional union for sure. We are deeply in love and if we ever break up, i can see that both of us will be deeply wounded for sure. I don't mind the intensity. I feel more secure this way. No BS, just pure desire and love to be with each other.
My boyfriend and I have the same thing! Yes, I don’t know how either of us could recover from a breakup! He admitted to me today on the phone that he has control issues and abandonment issues. We are strongly bonded to each other. Sometimes I think he secretly is keeping me on a string, and I think he may sometimes have that fear about me and it causes him to withhold deeper bonding with me. I think he kinda admitted it. We met in June this year, started dating at the end of July, where we basically just vowed to marry each other! We are still in love with each other! I’ve never felt this strongly about any man in my life! He is a Taurus Sun, Pisces Moon, and has only hard aspects with his Moon. He loves me so much, and I would never want to disappoint him.
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93nov
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posted January 29, 2024 10:42 AM
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Randall
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posted February 14, 2024 01:56 PM
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