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ChildofVenus
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posted July 28, 2018 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What if you aren't actually in a romantic relationship? Would the aspects in the composite chart still be activated. What if the two people are only friends?

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posted July 28, 2018 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Blues     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My opinion is that a composite chart is appropriate for situations where 2 (or more perhaps) people can be thought of as a single unit. Marriages, business partnerships, those two guys on West Wing that you only see together and nobody remembers which one is named what...

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posted July 28, 2018 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
My opinion is that a composite chart is appropriate for situations where 2 (or more perhaps) people can be thought of as a single unit. Marriages, business partnerships, those two guys on West Wing that you only see together and nobody remembers which one is named what...

I mean if you are only friends with someone will the composite chart be activated?

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posted July 28, 2018 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lerena     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most people tend to check their composite chart with a romantic partner, but I don't see any reason why a composite chart wouldn't be active between friends or even enemies. If there's a connection of any kind, the composite is probably doing something. However, it is more difficult to interpret non-romantic composite charts. The default expectation is that a composite chart is between romantic partners and most interpretations you find online will assume the same thing. I still think the composite is active regardless of how two people relate to each other.

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posted July 29, 2018 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
YES, I think you have to live together, too. People talk a lot of @#@# about having a bad composite or even a bad synaastry and still have a good relationship, but they, usually, are not married, which is what it is really for. I think everyone knows that living with someone is totally different than being even a best friend. That is my opinion.

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posted July 29, 2018 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kicksotic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've found Composite Charts to be active before I've officially met the person.

For instance, when a friend suggested a friend of his, my future business partner, might be a good person to do a certain project with, the Composite Chart for the business partner and I had a Venus Return and a Solar Return happening the day of that conversation. The first official virtual meet-up a month of so later happened with the Progressed Composite Moon conjunct the Composite Ascendant and the actual live meeting, handshake, deal three months after that occurred with the Progressed Composite Midheaven conjunct Composite Mars.

In addition, the Composite Progressions were triggering planets and points in each of our Natal Charts. So, for an astrologer, the timing of this was both easy to call as well as fascinating to watch unfold.

And, no, he and I are not married, are not romantic and do not live together. And yet the Composite Chart is indicative of how successful we are as a team and, again, was very active when Fate and Fortune brought us together.

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posted July 29, 2018 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composite charts work with all types of relationships, like my best friends over the years or my family or lovers whom I have not lived with.

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posted July 29, 2018 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for featherlightly     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with kicksotic -- I find composites become active the moment two people interact (even if it's just online). It's simply a map of the dynamic created between them, a description of how their combined energy takes shape. The nuances of the composite certainly become more apparent over time, but there's no need for two people to have any sort of formal relationship declared before it starts playing out.

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posted August 09, 2018 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
Composite charts work with all types of relationships, like my best friends over the years or my family or lovers whom I have not lived with.


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posted August 15, 2018 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by featherlightly:
I agree with kicksotic -- I find composites become active the moment two people interact (even if it's just online). It's simply a map of the dynamic created between them, a description of how their combined energy takes shape. The nuances of the composite certainly become more apparent over time, but there's no need for two people to have any sort of formal relationship declared before it starts playing out.

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posted August 16, 2018 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HelixID     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think a composite chart is in a way like a natal chart, a starting point or a map if you will. The progressions are event triggers.
So while I believe that you don't have to be in a relationship with someone for the composite to be valid, the composite progressions do have to indicate that the relationship will take off.

I remember that the progressed composite Moon was conjunct the radical composite Jupiter when my boyfriend and I had our first meeting. This same aspect was repeated in the transits that day. He has a Sag Moon and I have a Moon-Jupiter square natally.We are from different countries (Jupiter = foreign countries).
I found all of this very symbolic and telling.
I moved in with him when the progressed composite Moon was opposite our composite Mercury (comp 4th house ruler).

The composite tells us more about the dynamic in any relationship, its progressions tell what events are going to take place and how the relationship will unfold.
These are my two cents.

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posted August 16, 2018 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Composites were not created for marriage specifically. Composites are simply the hypothetical of how two people would be together if their natal energies combined into one natal chart or if your relationship were one hypothetical person, like if their natal charts were thrown in a blender together. Synastry is more about overlapping your natal energies, there is no mixing there; you are still your own natal chart. This is why composites can be used for all relationship types. Same with synastry. What sense would there be in composites only being for marriage/only activated in marriage situations? That makes no sense, Ami. It is a mathematical chart. It doesn't matter at all what type of relationship you use it for.

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posted August 16, 2018 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kicksotic:
I've found Composite Charts to be active before I've officially met the person.

And, no, he and I are not married, are not romantic and do not live together. And yet the Composite Chart is indicative of how successful we are as a team and, again, was very active when Fate and Fortune brought us together.


Very true. Composites do not typically depend on both entities being present at the same time. So it is very possible you could feel its effects a bit in advance to being in the same room as them or even in a close bond to them. Transits exist as the universe never stops moving so you would naturally still feel someone's natal, synastry, or composite even if you have no connection to them or they are say dead. Marilyn Monroe has been dead for decades but we can still see her natal chart hitting transits when all these spurts of movies and books about her keep getting written at random times over the years. I'm sure if we checked her composite with JFK we could also see the transits affecting their composite, as, about a year ago, their scandal was brought back up again as the US government brought up the JFK files. And then again recently when Trump withheld info on said files! You can't stop the stars in the universe from moving so naturally a chart will still be felt no matter where or who is involved!

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posted August 16, 2018 04:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
composites are mathematical entities and therefore any two or more ,moments will form a composite. that is births or for that matter a moment such as current transit chart.

I use a composite to my natal and the moment chart to understand how the general transits of the day will affect me directly.

moment/natals have proven to have been as accurate as any astrological device.
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posted August 16, 2018 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for margym0o     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I would say YES only because no two people are exactly alike.

You can meet two different people with the EXACT same birthday which forms the exact same composite chart with you, and those two relationships will be nothing alike. Why? Because the energy combined is thrusted by the individual energy behind it and a natal chart can manifest differently depending on a person's race, heritage, geographical location, family upbringing, social status, etc. etc.

So I would think you can certainly hypothesize how a composite will play out, but until the two people come together and LIVE their energies you wouldn't be able to accurately interpret the aspects.

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posted September 09, 2023 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 09, 2023 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Somebody said composite exists before you meet each other and will exist after relationship falls apart.

I see composite can play out at the fate of strangers sometimes. I saw several times that It could be not much going on in the real life, so-so synastry, but strong composite placements put their energy in life and outcome.

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posted September 11, 2023 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If composite says a relationship doesn’t mean to happen per se. Do you really need to become a couple to find out that?

I used to not pay much attention to composite before.
For example, one situation, I seriously think composite started to play its course from the second meeting as emphasizing downgrade of potential collaboration.
Several heavy things in composite overlapped nice things and not heavy synastry eventually.

However, it might take years to find out if there’re not much heavy and doom things

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