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ChildofVenus
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posted September 04, 2018 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And sex only taking place once?

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posted September 04, 2018 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Suppression is the word for the 12th house and with sex, you want as few hang ups as possible lol

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posted September 04, 2018 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is only one person with whom I would like to be even for a one night.. just waiting for good opportunity
And we DO have comp Mars in 12th 1orb conjuncting asc.

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posted September 04, 2018 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Suppression is the word for the 12th house and with sex, you want as few hang ups as possible lol


Yeah I guess I better just forget about anything actually happening then. Does this always indicate bad sex? What if you have other aspects that indicate sexual attraction?

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posted September 04, 2018 08:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
There is only one person with whom I would like to be even for a one night.. just waiting for good opportunity
And we DO have comp Mars in 12th 1orb conjuncting asc.

I have this in both synastry and composite with someone. I've been wanting to for awhile but I'm just about ready to say forget it altogether. But we have Venus sextile Mars in the composite. And Venus conjunct Mars in synastry.

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posted September 05, 2018 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
But having this overlay in synastry and composite shouldn't bother them. Since they have planets in their 12th house in their own chart.

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posted September 05, 2018 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
my experience of it rang true- bad sex. And we also had Mars conjunct asc, mars conjunct pluto in synastry.

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posted September 05, 2018 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
my experience of it rang true- bad sex. And we also had Mars conjunct asc, mars conjunct pluto in synastry.

How bad? He didn't turn you on or when everything started you lost interest?

Here is mars conjunct venus, both conjunct asc from 12th Too bad.. he's so handsome aww...
We'll be BFFs

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posted September 05, 2018 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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my experience of it rang true- bad sex. And we also had Mars conjunct asc, mars conjunct pluto in synastry.

It's hard to imagine that the sex would be bad though. Being as though we basically have Venus/Mars both ways. Venus conjunct Mars and Venus trine Mars. And Venus sextile Mars in composite. We don't have Mars conjunct Pluto in synastry but we have Mars trine Pluto.

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posted September 05, 2018 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by pocketrocket:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by StoneMoon:
[b]my experience of it rang true- bad sex. And we also had Mars conjunct asc, mars conjunct pluto in synastry.


How bad? He didn't turn you on or when everything started you lost interest?

Here is mars conjunct venus, both conjunct asc from 12th Too bad.. he's so handsome aww...
We'll be BFFs [/B][/QUOTE]

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posted September 05, 2018 12:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@pocketrocket Are you attracted to each other?

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posted September 05, 2018 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ex and I have sun conjunct chart ruler pluto and MARS in the 12th house and we had an amazing sex life and kept having sex occasionally after we broke up. He is the one guy in my life that I can say that we are unable to physically restrain from having sex when we see each other, even the way we met I walked up to him and started kissing him and we made out non stop for over an hour. Every single time I see him we always have sex, there hasn't been a time that we met up and sex did not take place, we ALWAYS have sex and before we become active we would always have long make out sessions.

So it really depends on the aspects Mars is making, I could see how mars in the 12th aspecting saturn maybe will deny sex but mars in the 12th conjunct pluto and or jupiter would lead to a very active sex life. I have all three with him mars conjunct pluto and jupiter and saturn but the tightest conjunction is to pluto exact. In this case I feel saturn helped our sex life be consistent and stable since mars also conjuncts pluto and jupiter.

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posted September 05, 2018 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^This is our composite, notice how our mars conjunct pluto is EXACT at 25d36 in Libra in the 12th with Valentine right on star Spica:

And our Davison, Chart ruler Venus conjunct Moon:

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posted September 05, 2018 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaGuinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think that. There are so many factors involved: natals, synastry and then composites and TRANSITS.

The same factors on a relationship chart can be extremely different in the practic world for the different persons involve, depending on the other factors.

A person with Mars in 12th in Pisces with aspects from Sun and Pluto could be so much different than other person with that nonaspected with a soft aspects in transits.

And yeah, I also belive in the chemicals, that flavours so different the same aspect in differents personas and situations. It's energy and contrasts.

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posted September 05, 2018 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StoneMoon     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:

I also experienced bad sex with someone who had his mars exactly conjunct my venus. I don't know his birth time so no idea where it fell in composite.

It was just not good. With the first, the attraction was not physical. I married him. It was not that the sex was bad, it just didn't flow. We were never ever in sync and he had issues. He was very repressed and not at all ok with sex, ever. I wasn't bored, but felt like I was developing a complex.

Second one, he had issues too. I suspect heavy drinking gave him lifelong erectile issues. I was completely bored during sex. But foreplay was tons of fun!

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posted September 05, 2018 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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@pocketrocket Are you attracted to each other?

I can speak in my behalf I feel something is going on under all that things around us.. but, truth to be told it's not easy when:
He has natal Mars 0 Jupiter 0 NN in 12th and my 8th Venus is in the middle conjuncting all of them.

On top of that, in composite: ASC Scorpio and it's ruler Mars and co-ruler Pluto in 12th, along with Venus conjunct from one side and Venus conjunct Saturn and Pluto from the other side

Fantasy is all we get in this lifetime

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posted September 05, 2018 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There is someone I know, whom I have zero feelings for, and who has zero feelings for me. In the 12th house, we have Merc, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Sun. We are barely even friends even though we see each other regularly because of mutuals. This is interesting, because I'm used to being flirted with (and I can flirt back if there's a spark), and with most people I know, there is attraction, and they do look, and even flirt, or play with the thought a little. He's never flirted with me, and I have never flirted with him. 0 magnetism. Only subtle revulsion.


And I know this one isn't Mars related, but just to add, I know a friend of mine had Saturn in the 12th composite with her ex husband. They broke it off for other reasons.

What I do know is HE personally had issues with sex. He couldn't "let go" and was repressed. He didn't have a healthy view of sexual expression. She was fine with her sexuality, but she loved him enough to avoid having sex since he had issues. So, they mostly did not have a sex life, but were affectionate. Since he was so repressed, and had sex guilt, the sex was not so satisfying.

And this is interesting about mars... So, Mars in the 4th composite would me, what, lots of sex at HOME specifically?

Chiron in the 12th would then mean, perhaps, suppression of pain. (just a random thought about someone else)

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posted September 05, 2018 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus and mars falls in my exe's 12th house if we are talking synastry and his Mars conjuncts my AC and Neptune at the galactic center and again the attraction was super intense and we ALWAYS have sex, we can't say no to each other ever.

I should add we both have moon in pisces and his DC is in pisces so maybe that factors in...Also my Venus conjunct Mars Leo trine's his Mars and sextile his Venus.

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posted September 06, 2018 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Rather than bad sex, the 12th house will give you delusions of grandeur so you may imagine great sex and overdramatize it in your heads but when times comes to actually hit the bed one or both of you is disappointed as it doesn't ring your alarm as loudly as you thought it would have. 6th/12th house axis is about disappointment and healing.

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posted September 06, 2018 06:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
Rather than bad sex, the 12th house will give you delusions of grandeur so you may imagine great sex and overdramatize it in your heads but when times comes to actually hit the bed one or both of you is disappointed as it doesn't ring your alarm as loudly as you thought it would have. 6th/12th house axis is about disappointment and healing.

I let him know upfront that I'm not experienced in regards to sex. This is something that I told him initially which didn't seem to be an issue for him.

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posted September 06, 2018 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hypatia238:
My venus and mars falls in my exe's 12th house if we are talking synastry and his Mars conjuncts my AC and Neptune at the galactic center and again the attraction was super intense and we ALWAYS have sex, we can't say no to each other ever.

I should add we both have moon in pisces and his DC is in pisces so maybe that factors in...Also my Venus conjunct Mars Leo trine's his Mars and sextile his Venus.



In synastry my Mars in his 12th house conjuncts his Venus and is in opposition of his Saturn. In Composite we have Venus sextile Mars, Mars qunitile Jupiter Mars opposition Saturn, Uranus and Neptune (the orb is 8 and 9 degrees for Mars opposition Saturn and Mars opposition Neptune). The closest orb is Mars opposition Uranus. And his Mars sextiles my Venus.

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posted September 06, 2018 11:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hypatia238     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
Rather than bad sex, the 12th house will give you delusions of grandeur so you may imagine great sex and overdramatize it in your heads but when times comes to actually hit the bed one or both of you is disappointed as it doesn't ring your alarm as loudly as you thought it would have. 6th/12th house axis is about disappointment and healing.

Well that was not the case at all with my ex, the chemistry was amazing from the moment we met from making out to making love, we both loved our sex life together and have a huge weakness for one another.

I think the aspects that mars makes is more telling than if it falls in the 12th house.

I would say that probably a 12th house mars in synastry or composite can result in the two people masturbating to each other a lot when they are not able to have sex (we didn't live together) bc yes fantasizing about the other sexually comes naturally and is a theme and the 12th house is about energy you leak and give out to others, I gave myself completely to him body and soul, COMPLETELY, and my venus and mars fell on his 12th, we also have always had a very strong psychic connection. Like I said we had a great sex life and BOTH felt that way, it was not just me thinking that.

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