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Topic: Your composite Venus sign
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Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 02:51 PM
I never understood how the signs are felt in the composite chart. I've always felt more of the aspects and house placements.Me and my boyfriend have composite Venus in Leo. I always thought, "hmmm.. we don't feel very Leo, I don't think". We don't really spoil each other with grand surprises or put our relationship out there for everyone to see. We don't buy expensive gifts for each other, but rather gifts of great quality and value (Venus in the 2nd house). We're not snobby or self-centered either. He is Cap dominant and I am Virgo dominant. We're too frugal for flashy things. So I was like.. maybe it's in Cancer? Because technically, our Venus is at 1 degree. Maybe it was just off? But then, I came across this article on llewellyn.com: http://www.llewellyn.com/journal/article/2492 That's when I understood how it manifested for us. Our chart is heavily Leo, especially with Sun conjunct Venus. The article says: quote: Venus in Leo: This relationship needs to embody the "mythic romance" or "grand sweeping love affair," in soul and spirit. You may also need an audience to receive you. Think of the grand entrance the King and Queen make when they walk into a room: the mutual respect they feel for each other, the pride at being on the other's arm. Kindle your spark by regularly reliving the moment you fell in love, together.
When I read this, I thought to myself that maybe we ARE that Leo after all. I back tracked all our memories and it's true.
When we walk into a room side by side, heads turn. We have people putting our relationship on a pedestal even though it's not perfect. We have "fans" like my sister, his sister, his best friends' sister and cousins, his mom, my brother, etc. When we talk about relationships to our friends, it's usually just the good things about each other. Only really close friends hear about the bad stuff (and LL sometimes 😅 . Even then, people still believe in our relationship. We also both love telling stories about how we met and ended up together. I feel proud just having him by my side and introducing him to people in my life. I think he feels the same because he always asks his friends if they want to meet me. I think everyone's composite Venus sign does describe how the relationship plays out. I've also read that a relationship may feel uncomfortable for someone if their natal chart is unfamiliar with the composite Venus sign's energy. For example, in this article from Keen, it talks about how this girl had great synastry connection with this guy, but did not like how their relationship was playing out. They had composite Venus in Aquarius, while she had natal Venus in Cancer. Two very different energies. She did not feel it was her type of relationship at all. https://www.keen.com/articles/love/understanding-relationship-karma-venus-in-composite-astrology-chart Drop your composite Venus sign below and tell me about your experiences! Also, if you can compare it to your chart, let me know how you feel about the relationship as a whole. Would really love to hear everyone's thoughts. IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10058 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 04:22 PM
I have Venus in leo with my partner in composite. We don't embody the romantic love archetype with each other but we are expressive, warm and affectionate, we joke around a lot too, we play around a lot with each other, it's easy to have fun together and laugh together, we are two adult kids but I would not characterize our relationship as the manifestation of deep romantic love, we laugh a lot together and remain youthful together though. Perhaps if our Venus fell in the 5th or 8th but it falls in the 6th, I guess playfulness and laughter and that youthful spirit is part of our day to day routine unless we are fighting lol.IP: Logged |
hypatia238 Moderator Posts: 10058 From: Mercury novile and parallel Pluto, Pluto septile Southnode Registered: Sep 2014
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posted September 07, 2018 06:48 PM
Now with me ex we have Venus conjunct Thisbe opposite Moon in the 5th forming a tsquare with Neptune and we did embody the archetype of deep romantic love.Current lover we have Venus opposite Pluto in the 5th in Scorpio forming a tsquare with chart ruler Moon in the 8th, we embody the romantic love archetype. But Venus in Leo is a fun light energy and it is nice to have it in composite...partner and I have it in the 6th though but it does sextile Pluto conjunct pyramus in the 8th, I do care a lot about him definitely. You know I sometimes I wonder if I am in love with him but don't realize it, perhaps that is how that sextile plays out for me, sometimes I look at him like I am in love but is like sextiles are too light for me and I need something harder. Hard Venus/Pluto aspects you feel it stronger but its energy is also harder to manage day to day...I guess that Venus sextile Pluto feels like a still waters runs deep type of theme while Venus in hard aspect to Pluto is more if a "I am deeply in love or madly in love" type of theme which comes with a stronger fear of loss and more anxiety, the sextile feels safer... However, I think the houses alter the expression of the energy definitely. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted September 07, 2018 07:38 PM
Great post.. I'm working at delineating the nuanced differences between synastry and composites. Also, between the Davidson and Midpoint composites - can anyone describe the difference between these from experience (not theoretical)? What you've said here gives great insight into the feeeel. Sounds like it's a combination and a blending of the synastries. Which is very complicated to assess! But, are you saying that neither of your natal charts link into the composite Venus? If so, then it supports my theory that the natals don't have to link in. Or, maybe they have to but only a little bit is ok? Feel free to tell us more IP: Logged |
MyRealName Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Nov 2015
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posted September 08, 2018 02:47 AM
Interesting article. I would say I relate to these descriptions and makes sense now why some are less comfortable manifestations. My current partner's Venus conjuncts mine, so the energy is very comfortable.IP: Logged |
Melinn Knowflake Posts: 767 From: Sweden Registered: Jul 2017
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posted September 08, 2018 07:04 AM
I have Composite Venus in 7th house in Capricorn Conjunct Neptune. And Exactly trine Moon in Taurus in 12th, with my "former" crush.This is no surprice. Both He and I have Saturn as a big player in ours natal charts. Saturn is touching my Venus-moon-mars-chiron-uranus-asc-mercury. Rules my 5th house. And Saturn in his chart is aspecting his Sun-Moon and Venus. I have Venus aspecting my Neptune.
He has moon-mars aspecting neptune etc I won't go into it too much! So in short, makes really sense, Composite in Capricorn Conj neptune, aspecting moon.
----------------------------------------------- How it plays out? The good parts about Capricorn foremost: We are both reliable people. I mean, really reliable. We are punctual. We both will let the other know if we will be late for a meet up, even if its just by 5 min!
We never promise things we won't keep. We wan't structure in our day to day plans (when we were working on projects before). -------------------------------------------------
When I as a true virgo asc help him out with something, like his finals, getting him lunch or snacks etc. He will always return the favor. He does not wanna feel like "he ows me" I guess. Or he just respects me helping him and wants to match me as the saturnian he is. I want to feel needed and to be of service. He too seems to feel like that! ---------------------------------------------- We have great empathy for each other etc. But alas, we also have Uranus in the mixture, both natally, synastry and composite.. ---------------------------------------------------- The more I wanna "Define" the relationsip, and demand him to like, tell me Indirectly, if he will stay in my life as a friend or not, so I just can walk out (plutonic me) if he is not gonna stay, the more impossible it gets to get straightness. ------------------------------------------------------ Uranus energy rebels against the Saturn energies we have. Its actually what will makes us or break us soon it seems... ------------------------------------------------ The bad parts? yes this Uranus mess working against our saturn/cap. But also, well capricorn Venus, I think may feel too rigid. ----------------------------------------------------- We both are sensetive people who are very prone to shut down and putting up walls. Getting frustrated and depressed etc. ---------------------------------------------------- We both want the other to be a warm and brigh sunlight, we both waith for the other one to be that light, so we can relax and open up. And we fail each other this way, and it makes us depressed. This is the dynamic since this winter and still is. dunno how to break the circle.. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 08, 2018 09:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua:
But, are you saying that neither of your natal charts link into the composite Venus? If so, then it supports my theory that the natals don't have to link in. Or, maybe they have to but only a little bit is ok? Feel free to tell us more
Yeah none of our natal Venus make a connection to our composite Venus. He had Venus in Gemini at 23 degrees and I have Venus in Virgo at 9 degrees. I think the only reason why we are both comfortable with composite Venus in Leo energy is because it touches both our natal Suns by conjunction. Otherwise, I think it would be harder for someone to deal with their composite Venus energy if none of their natal personal planets don't connect with their composite Venus. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 08, 2018 09:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by Melinn: I have Composite Venus in 7th house in Capricorn Conjunct Neptune. And Exactly trine Moon in Taurus in 12th, with my "former" crush.This is no surprice. Both He and I have Saturn as a big player in ours natal charts. Saturn is touching my Venus-moon-mars-chiron-uranus-asc-mercury. Rules my 5th house. And Saturn in his chart is aspecting his Sun-Moon and Venus. I have Venus aspecting my Neptune.
He has moon-mars aspecting neptune etc I won't go into it too much! So in short, makes really sense, Composite in Capricorn Conj neptune, aspecting moon.
The aspects and house placements do modify the energy especially with squares and oppositions. Unless there is an aspect pattern to contain all that energy, it is bound to fall apart. We have Uranus too, at the apex of our loose grand kite, in conjunction with Jupiter and Neptune. It's opposite our Sun-Venus conjunction. I have noticed, even in synastry and natal charts, if there's an almost aspect pattern, it's harder to handle the energies of the planets involved. I think of it like almost reaching climax but then never actually getting there. It's very frustrating and eventually, one just gives up. I think this may be the case for most people, even for me with the people I've met before. IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted September 08, 2018 09:28 PM
Oh, ok. Thanks.. I've got that going on right now so I'm interested. I mean, I'm the only one pretty much linked in. Apart from a few asteroids. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 08, 2018 09:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Oh, ok. Thanks.. I've got that going on right now so I'm interested. I mean, I'm the only one pretty much linked in. Apart from a few asteroids.
Do some of their personal planets touch your composite Venus at least? So even if the Venuses don't make a connection, he'll still feel it through his other planets. I don't really know much about asteroids, but I'm guessing tight aspects can have almost the same effect as a planet? IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted September 09, 2018 06:52 AM
Nope .. just nothing..His: NN on Comp Chiron (6 & 3 degrees) Jupiter & Uranus on Uranus (3, 3 and 8) Pluto conjunct Comp Moon (25 & 24) Actually - maaaybe this is something - his Moon is trine Comp Jupiter (5 and 4)? His Moon is fairly challenged with ONLY a square to Neptune. Ooohh.. and Saturn is trine his Moon too (2 & 5 degrees). They are only trines, but, perhaps nice and softly providing optimism and stability to his Moon? And, actually, not a lot for me either: just Mercury on my Ascendant. We've been texting for months and I've been crazy loving it. And Venus wide by 4 degrees.. the love stellium is just over past my ascendant starting with Mercury. Ohh.. his Mars is square the Mercury.. (19 & 16). And square the Venus and Sun (19, 21 & 22) .. could be an issue - His Mars then is square the love stellium of the composite! Wow. What do you think? And his Saturn too.. So, his Mars/Saturn opposition is forming a T-square with the love stellium. Booos... doesn't sound good. Are trines enough? Maybe that's it: as simple as me enjoying the communication via crazy texting and him optimism and stability (and Mars square the Mercury). The rest is Synastry.. We have some midpoint DW hits (S/M & S/V), IC hits, Venus 1H DW, strong Synastry action, and IC DWs.. and more. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out Found this too: Comparing natal to composite in astroloy 2.0 : http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213638.html
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dribaby Newflake Posts: 13 From: Miami, Fl Registered: Nov 2015
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posted September 09, 2018 10:51 PM
We have Venus in Capricorn. I guess maybe because he's older than me and we are mature with each other
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Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 10, 2018 03:32 PM
quote: Originally posted by sassaqua: Nope .. just nothing..His: NN on Comp Chiron (6 & 3 degrees) Jupiter & Uranus on Uranus (3, 3 and 8) Pluto conjunct Comp Moon (25 & 24) Actually - maaaybe this is something - his Moon is trine Comp Jupiter (5 and 4)? His Moon is fairly challenged with ONLY a square to Neptune. Ooohh.. and Saturn is trine his Moon too (2 & 5 degrees). They are only trines, but, perhaps nice and softly providing optimism and stability to his Moon? And, actually, not a lot for me either: just Mercury on my Ascendant. We've been texting for months and I've been crazy loving it. And Venus wide by 4 degrees.. the love stellium is just over past my ascendant starting with Mercury. Ohh.. his Mars is square the Mercury.. (19 & 16). And square the Venus and Sun (19, 21 & 22) .. could be an issue - His Mars then is square the love stellium of the composite! Wow. What do you think? And his Saturn too.. So, his Mars/Saturn opposition is forming a T-square with the love stellium. Booos... doesn't sound good. Are trines enough? Maybe that's it: as simple as me enjoying the communication via crazy texting and him optimism and stability (and Mars square the Mercury). The rest is Synastry.. We have some midpoint DW hits (S/M & S/V), IC hits, Venus 1H DW, strong Synastry action, and IC DWs.. and more. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out Found this too: Comparing natal to composite in astroloy 2.0 : http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/213638.html
With Mercury on your ascendant, I can see why you would see the texting and communicating part as a highlight of your relationship. Having Venus there intensifies it as well. I think any planets touching the ascendant brings the planet's energy into light. So even though you don't have a lot of Mercury going on in your chart, the fact that composite Mercury is in your 1st house makes communication highly important to you, in this relationship at least. T-squares are not do scary (at least not in my experience) if they're not directly involved in synastry or composite. My Moon touches my boyfriend's natal t-square but that hasn't really presented any problems for me or for him. I wouldn't worry about it too much in your case. The trine to his Moon should help him work through any difficulties in the relationship. I haven't explored midpoints enough to develop an opinion on it. I'm not sure if they're strong influences because I've had people's planets on my midpoints and they haven't appealed to me as much.
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Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 10, 2018 03:41 PM
Also, in one response I read in the link you posted, someone said it's not so important to read the overlays between the composite and natal charts.I'm a little iffy about this theory, though, because of what I read on the Keen article. I feel like if I had 0 natal connections to the composite chart, I would see the relationship very differently. For example, cannot imagine having composite Venus in Scorpio being wonderful since I have 0 Scorpio influence and so does my boyfriend. This might be nice for others who have the influence in their respective charts, but maybe not for me. IP: Logged |
Solar_Leo_Queen Knowflake Posts: 3033 From: Planet Earth Registered: Jan 2014
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posted September 10, 2018 03:42 PM
quote: Originally posted by dribaby: We have Venus in Capricorn. I guess maybe because he's older than me and we are mature with each other
That's so spot on tbh! IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul Knowflake Posts: 2056 From: Registered: Jul 2016
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posted September 11, 2018 01:10 AM
hmmm I am pretty skeptical when it comes to the composite planets "sign", and even house while I think the composite chart is wonderful for understanding the dynamics of a relationships by looking at aspects and midpoints, I'm not sure if the signs should be too much relied on, because everything can also be calculated backwards and thus fall in the opposite sign and house
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