posted September 16, 2018 09:38 AM            

If you already have Pluto natally string or are familiar with Pluto energy, it can be immensely life changing to find love around this time.

Pluto square Venus suggests that you want to dig deep and ask pertinent questions when it comes to intimate relationships

Will you be there for me if I am injured and in hospital?

Can you be able to handle how insecure I can get?

Would you be patient with me if I don't open up immediately?

Pluto is more about psychological things. And so this transit will drive personal relations to come to a point of more "awareness" to the more integral and important reasons to why you are friends/lovers.

I am experiencing the transit of Pluto sextile to Venus. And it has felt quite lonesome. As some people are just not into "heart to heart" revelations.

But it has made me clear on whom I can come to when emotionally troubled or questioning.

I am in no way "bisexual" in the strict sense of the word. But I do find myself drawn to women with regards to discussing what is happening within.

With the square aspect there could be some disappointment. Or at-least feeling like there is great dissatisfaction in relationships.

It could be that they(relationships) are superficial or they don't really go as deeply as one would like.

An example is when you are having a great conversation with someone that you are attracted to(Pluto). But then the person says something "off" to you like "Wow, you have a great ass!" (Square Venus).

Or it could also be that you really like someone (Pluto) from a deeper place. But the person is looking at you as more of a hookup.(square Venus).

One could be extra sensitive in getting their heart broken or react in an extreme fashion in love/friendships when disappointed.

The other thing that could happen with Venus/Pluto square is that we are shown that we are either hanging around people(Venus) who are toxic(Pluto).

Or that the relationship that we in (Venus) is more reflective of a deep psychological wound (square Pluto) that we need to move past from

Be careful of giving your heart away to someone who will not understand the depths of your feelings. It could feel like the most painful type of rejection around this time( even the type to send you into a depression or suicidal attempts)

posted September 16, 2018 10:11 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Pluto square Venus suggests that you want to dig deep and ask pertinent questions when it comes to intimate relationships

Will you be there for me if I am injured and in hospital?

Can you be able to handle how insecure I can get?

Would you be patient with me if I don't open up immediately?

Pluto is more about psychological things. And so this transit will drive personal relations to come to a point of more "awareness" to the more integral and important reasons to why you are friends/lovers.

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Excellent points. Wishing you well during this nebulous time, Aries23degrees

posted September 16, 2018 03:02 PM            

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Originally posted by Aries23Degrees:

Be careful of giving your heart away to someone who will not understand the depths of your feelings. It could feel like the most painful type of rejection around this time (even the type to send you into a depression or suicidal attempts)

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Ran into a 1925 Mayakovsky poem just now, called "Back Home!". The original ending, which he revised before his suicide, went:

"I want to be understood by my country,

but if I fail to be understood – what then?

I shall pass through my native land

to one side, like a shower of slanting rain."

Switch "country" with "partner", "native land" with "beloved", and then one has Venus conj Pluto. :..)

posted September 16, 2018 06:39 PM            

Pluto is like a tank in the narrow street so either you jump on it or it will roll over you.

Balance check towards the end - my long term relationship has survived. But there were some casualties. during this 2.5 years I had a crush on four different guys. Four. All of them reciprocated. I have no idea how I kept myself from going all the way. It was so close to have one affair after the other.

posted September 17, 2018 01:40 AM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
Ran into a 1925 Mayakovsky poem just now, called "Back Home!". The original ending, which he revised before his suicide, went:

"I want to be understood by my country,

but if I fail to be understood – what then?

I shall pass through my native land

to one side, like a shower of slanting rain."

Switch "country" with "partner", "native land" with "beloved", and then one has Venus conj Pluto. :..)

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to feel so distant from the one you love is to feel distant/disconnected from yourself. That is very painful.

Sometimes all we want is to be understood. But we can dwell so emphatically on the " not being understood" that it starts to be our experience.

Bjork "All is full of love"

"...all is full of love
(You just aim to see it)
All is full of love
(Your phone is off the hook)..."

Awareness of love around us is essential. Loneliness and feeling cut off from others has been/will be round for a very long time. We must aim to reunite with love all the time.

posted September 17, 2018 01:33 PM            

Pluto square natal Venus is a transit that stresses love and passion, and represents a moment of values reform. This may embolden the passions for relationship in some, but in others may trigger retreat from relationships to reform internally. That depends upon what has happened leading up to the transit and the person's willingness to deal with the internal conditions that created or contributed to those circumstantial developments.

Pluto square natal Venus is one of those transits that will test the core of love at a deep psychological level. But it does not equate to a bad outcome. It means you're not going to be able to skate across the surface of relational romance unchallenged. Things will get intense and you'll want to pull back from that, or you may get more fully embroiled. But you will learn about yourself.

This transit tends to bring out fears of love loss, the Wagnerian [i]liebestod[/b]. Thus, it can exacerbate affections in the direction of jealousy or obsession/possession for some. But you have to already have that in you and essentially be denying it.

This transit is not so different from Pluto opposite natal Venus. I had very difficult, but necessary and heart-opening experiences during that time. It brought out what was deeper, below the surface, and necessary for me to express to others, to women generally. I fell in love HUGE once during that transit and though it was unrequited in human terms, I later came to understand the deeper soul level wisdom in not having that wish fulfilled.

If we start with monochromatic labels of 'good' and 'bad' upon particular astrological factors we miss the qualitative wisdom that can be gained through the full experience of them.

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"Drift like a cloud and flow like water, seeing that all life is a magnificent illusion, a playing of energy, and there is absolutely nothing fundamentally to be afraid of." -- Alan Watts

posted September 18, 2018 06:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:

If we start with monochromatic labels of 'good' and 'bad' upon particular astrological factors we miss the qualitative wisdom that can be gained through the full experience of them.

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excellent insights, thank you!