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abrightfutureahead
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posted September 16, 2018 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hiya guys,
I seem to have a grand square in Synastry with a guy I’ve been seeing for 3 months. Could some please elaborate which planets are involved and what this represents. Is it a good thing to have? How would the planets play out do you think?

Thank you for your time

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posted September 17, 2018 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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abrightfutureahead
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posted September 25, 2018 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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sassaqua
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posted September 25, 2018 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who's who?

Blue completes red T-square: Mars/Neptune-Saturn/Moon with blue's Jupiter.

Blue has similar, almost a t-square but it's very wide: blue's Moon squares its Neptune.. is too wide though to its Jupiter to be an official opposition, and then form that t-square in the natal.

BUT, I think that red's planets coming along, bring those natal elements together and has solidified that T-square for blue. And, also, sucked those blue's planets into the grande square for both people involved.

So.. blue WILL feel the completion of a t-square in their natal chart, just as red does in their natal chart.

They are not so romantic planets for both people involved (ie, mainly blue's), but are still nice. And Venus there is making aspects to it so will provide some even nicer romance feels. Also, Venus trine Jupiter DW is great for any situation and is very supportive through tough times.

Mercury on blue's NN is helpful. My concerns lay only with a lack of involvement of red's Moon and Saturn.

The grande square in synastry is a solid and stable configuration. So much that people can even get stuck in them for a long time whether there is joy or not in the relationship. This one has a bit of everything: Jupiter, outer planets, Mars action and emotional Moon. But I think that blue will be feeling it more than red.

Good luck

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posted September 26, 2018 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jupitarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sassaqua wrote: "The grande square in synastry is a solid and stable configuration. So much that people can even get stuck in them for a long time whether there is joy or not in the relationship"

In general terms: If I would turn your T-Square into a grand square by synastry, who would be the one most affected by it or "stuck" in the relationship because of it?
Me or you?

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abrightfutureahead
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posted September 26, 2018 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Sassaqua!
I’m the blue with the t-square I see is effected. He is the red. Interesting I also make a wide pattern completion with him. Do you think his lack of moon & Saturn aspects on his behalf will mean a lack of commitment from him? This is my concern. Although he is doing all the pursuing and we are 3 months in to a long distance relationship. I do feel quite like “he completes me” and that he really sees me for who I am.

I’m hoping that those positive Venus-Jupiter aspects, nodal aspects and angle axis could be binding.. sun sextile sun and also sun opposite moon, and moon quintile sun. X

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abrightfutureahead
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posted September 26, 2018 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also sassaqua,
It seems his moon sits on my part of fortune, is this significant and does that count towards his moon making contact to our Synastry? Thank you!! X

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abrightfutureahead
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posted September 26, 2018 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Looking at the aspect grid his moon biquintile my sun by 1 degrees, his moon conjunct my part of fortune EXACT and his Saturn sextile my part of fortune exact. Wonder if this has any significance? Also his Saturn is opposite my Jupiter my a wide 8 degrees, thank you for your interpretation 😁 x

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posted September 26, 2018 08:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jup - it IS both. But it depends on the ride. If that square feels like a good ride, then the one completing will sense the enjoyment of the ride (the other person) and want to be part of it. If the planets involved are not so personal, or are not romantic ones, they won't feel so allured into the configuration because it holds no promise of romance/nice feels. The person with the configuration will sense the "missing piece" to their wholeness and be alerted.

So, it depends on the planets involved, and the configuration too. A grande square is a bit of a solid, immovable object and requires greater conscious energy to be a part of it. And also, the planets are not the same element (like a grande trine), so, again, it's driven by tension. Commitment potential then is high, but also the risk is there that two people may feel stuck in it eventually (if there's no joy).

Same applies to a grande trine. I have a trine, if I meet Geminis, they feel like they can slot into my trine and feel a completion. But, I have the power to let them in at the end of the day actually. I have the more planets so.. I am more complete with my air.. they want to sit in my 1/2 completed web and feel whole

I'll come back to you abrightfutureahead

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posted September 27, 2018 03:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
abrightfuture..

What I always disclaim with is: it depends. This is not news but it's always said in order to emphasis the complexity of relationships, and astrology

It depends on the age of people, where people are at in their lives. When we're younger there's a lot of pursuing that is done because we're experimenting and learning. And a strong driving force too is hormones..

He may be pursuing you now.. but - what - it's long distance? So.. he's liking the chase and the possibility? You haven't spent time with each other to feel the full force of that grande square?

When it comes down to it, I think it will be a hard ride. But some people enjoy that passion and challenge, and it doesn't mean that people should not give these things a go.

Apart from his Moon and Saturn.. some other aspects are a bit full on: Pluto opposite his Mars and square Venus.. and your Moon only has a square and opposition too. I think it would make a difference if the planets involved were more personal, AND with greater supporting aspects to them. Your Moon I believe, will suffer. And, your Pluto will chase and chase..only for Venus to become elusive. And his Mars has nowhere to go either that is good Mars energy - instead it's just frustrated from too much conflict and blockage.

There are some nice bits with the Jupiter/Venus DW, and that's a nice vibe. But there's nowhere for those feels to really go because the other planets are OVER blocked.

Also, among all these very loud elements, a Moon biquintile Sun, Moon conjunct POF, and Saturn sextile POF is not significant as they are too quiet to be heard.

I'm so sorry.. I often give bad news because I've learned along my way. These are only my predictions.. The best thing is to go forward as you are, with the information that astrology provides to make sure you stay aware and safe, and don't waste too much time.

Keep us updated and let us know how it all goes

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abrightfutureahead
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posted September 27, 2018 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you sassaqua,
Appreciate your honesty. He lives 1.5 miles away so not that long distance, but he works nights and we both have children so only spend time together on the weekends. We’ve been seeing eachother 3 months and their are obviously a lot of obstacles in the way but we both can’t seem to go longer than half a day without contacting eachother. We have a deep friendship as well as romantic attraction and feelings of best friend energy and fatedness. We are great support to one another.

Our problems lie in that I have a toddler and a baby so it’s hard for me to have one-on-one time with him and won’t let him stay over as don’t want to confuse my toddler.
I can’t let go even though I know It May cause me pain in the future. Thank you x

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sassaqua
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posted September 27, 2018 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok.. that's good to know.. well, relevant. Always don't know the people behind the post and the context.

I think you should spread your net though (advice for myself too, lol)

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