posted January 06, 2007 05:14 PM              

Synastry is really key. That's where you'll see the real compatibilty (or lack thereof).

posted January 06, 2007 10:46 PM              

Composites can't really be improved (or changed). It is the 'third entity'; the chart of the relationship itself.

Synastry interaspects 'show' how two individuals interact with one another. What problems they may encounter between each other. Moon square Mercury interaspect between two individuals with some work can be improved (square= tension). However, in the composite it is less personal; as "A's" Moon is not squaring "B's" Mercury. Instead it is an aspect of the relationship itself...can't be changed. Some people (as I have seen 'googling' upon the web) note the composite as the 'final' outcome of the relationship; what one gets' out of it overall.

Overall, I think that the longer a couple stays together...the more the composite starts to 'play' out.

posted January 07, 2007 12:31 PM            

Composite -> the environment, the relationship itself, the nest where holds the 2 people while they relate..

2 people having good synastry but bad composite -> easy to relate with each other, but it seems so hard to maintain the relationship.. difficulty to get together, even if compatible..

2 people having bad synastry but good composite -> the relationship seems to be happy and easy to maintain, and it feel comfortable, yet there might be lack of afinity sometimes..

posted January 07, 2007 01:56 PM              

I'm going to have to disagree with you on that one. I don't think it's difficult for a couple to get together if they have a "bad" composite...the composite chart is supposed to be looked at when the couple IS together, not when they first meet...the synastry is the chemistry between the two.

And I've been in relationships where the synastry is horrible and we have a great composite chart....and I'd definitely rather have great synastry anyday. I've been with my boyfriend for almost 2 years now and we have a wayyyyy better synastry chart than a composite.... and we haven't had any problems. I don't know, that's just my opinion.... I still get a little confused when it comes to composite charts.

posted September 17, 2018 08:01 AM            

Does anyone have any insight or experience with this topic?

The op's question is very broad, but I can add more specifically. Instead of overall bad synastry, whatabout just one or two challenges - like, idk, Moon square Pluto or notoriously dangerous, Saturn square Mars? If there's just a bit of an issue in the synastry, do you think that that it can be smoothed out when these aspects are rectified in the composite?

Found this elsewhere though (note the Love Stellium):
"I vote Composite. The Composite is like a baby, an independent entity which is your relationship. My parents have a pretty difficult synastry situation, but wonderful composite.
They have Moon square Moon in synastry, Mars square Saturn in synastry..Sun square Sun in synastry...Sun semi-sextile Moon in synastry, Sun semi-sextile Moon in synastry(both ways), Mars conjunct Sun in synastry(a good aspect), Moon-Venus square Moon in synastry, but in their composite they have Sun-Moon-Mercury-Venus-Mars forming a stellium(all conjunct one another), and most of those planets trine Jupiter, and they've been together since forever..
They were classmates from grade 6 through 12, got married when they were 23-24, respectively, and are still together now, 3 kids later, at 60-61."

posted September 17, 2018 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
I think this should be in Interpersonal Astrology..

Does anyone have any insight or experience with this topic?

The op's question is very broad, but I can add more specifically. Instead of overall bad synastry, whatabout just one or two challenges - like, idk, Moon square Pluto or notoriously dangerous, Saturn square Mars? If there's just a bit of an issue in the synastry, do you think that that it can be smoothed out when these aspects are rectified in the composite?

Found this elsewhere though (note the Love Stellium):
"I vote Composite. The Composite is like a baby, an independent entity which is your relationship. My parents have a pretty difficult synastry situation, but wonderful composite.
They have Moon square Moon in synastry, Mars square Saturn in synastry..Sun square Sun in synastry...Sun semi-sextile Moon in synastry, Sun semi-sextile Moon in synastry(both ways), Mars conjunct Sun in synastry(a good aspect), Moon-Venus square Moon in synastry, but in their composite they have Sun-Moon-Mercury-Venus-Mars forming a stellium(all conjunct one another), and most of those planets trine Jupiter, and they've been together since forever..
They were classmates from grade 6 through 12, got married when they were 23-24, respectively, and are still together now, 3 kids later, at 60-61."

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posted September 21, 2018 09:55 AM            

So what is it that you are looking for in the relationship? To be part of a whole without looking back at your individuality? Some people don't mind that. Typically the Plutonian and other watery couples, they don't mind that merging of souls. To be individual and have more freedom on your own without looking for a completely encompassing singular entity of a relationship? Some couples also like that. Typically the Uranian couples, they don't mind that excessive sense of individuality in the relationship.

Personally, from what I've seen, it could go either way. But most of the time, people want their individual essences (synastry) to be more prominent than the actual essence of the relationship (composite), so in that case the synastry would overrule the composite. For them, the condition of synastry is more important than the condition of the composite because they need to still feel like an individual person rather than "His wife" or "Her husband" or "His caretaker" or "Her caretaker". Personally, I would also prefer a better synastry and don't think a good composite could make up for a bad synastry IN MY CASE. I'm Plutonian but I'm also Uranian so realistically I would prefer if both the synastry and composite were decent. I want the positive soul merging and to maintain my individuality lol!

posted September 21, 2018 10:14 AM            

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posted September 21, 2018 04:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
No, no, no lol

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posted September 21, 2018 05:24 PM            

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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
I think it depends on what the people are looking for in the relationship. The synastry represents our overlapping tendencies and relations, it is the overlay of our essential beings (our natal charts) and how they mingle but yet do not BLEND entirely. It is us as unique individuals and that is important to have in any partnership, romantic or platonic. The composite is how those natal energies of our essential being eventually end up getting BLENDED almost entirely. It is taking us out of our individual presence and making us a blended part of a different whole, different to us as a singular entity. It's the relationship itself, on its own. And that is also important to have in any partnership, romantic or platonic.

So what is it that you are looking for in the relationship? To be part of a whole without looking back at your individuality? Some people don't mind that. Typically the Plutonian and other watery couples, they don't mind that merging of souls. To be individual and have more freedom on your own without looking for a completely encompassing singular entity of a relationship? Some couples also like that. Typically the Uranian couples, they don't mind that excessive sense of individuality in the relationship.

Personally, from what I've seen, it could go either way. But most of the time, people want their individual essences (synastry) to be more prominent than the actual essence of the relationship (composite), so in that case the synastry would overrule the composite. For them, the condition of synastry is more important than the condition of the composite because they need to still feel like an individual person rather than "His wife" or "Her husband" or "His caretaker" or "Her caretaker". Personally, I would also prefer a better synastry and don't think a good composite could make up for a bad synastry IN MY CASE. I'm Plutonian but I'm also Uranian so realistically I would prefer if both the synastry and composite were decent. I want the positive soul merging and to maintain my individuality lol!

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I like how you broke it down.

Personally I think that when we fall in love we fall in love with how we feel when we are around the person after our souls/energies merge, for me falling in love is about merging and becoming one with the other, if I don't merge and become one with the other to me I may love you but I will not be able to fall in love with you so I feel davison and composite tells me if two people are truly in love, if there is a strong soul connection, if their souls did merge and if they touched each other's soul. BC of this I value davison/composite over synastry bc I think people need to merge in order to fall in love.

My partner does not understand me when I talk about the soul and the merging of two souls, is like I am talking in another language and this is not something he desires/needs. He is highly uranian and coincidentally so is our composite. He has chart Ruler VENUS in the 4th square Mars conjunct Uranus right on his DC. In composite we have Uranus opposite Chiron squaring Venus at the apex of tsquare. He considers me the love of his life. I love him and value him and some aspects of our relationship dynamics but am not in love though.

posted September 21, 2018 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Doesn't it take awhile for the Composite to go into play?

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NOT to ME, I have moon in pisces square neptune conjunct AC and I feel the composite/davison right away.

posted September 21, 2018 05:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Amelia:
hmmm, actually I'm not sure...never say never though.

Composites can't really be improved (or changed). It is the 'third entity'; the chart of the relationship itself.

Synastry interaspects 'show' how two individuals interact with one another. What problems they may encounter between each other. Moon square Mercury interaspect between two individuals with some work can be improved (square= tension). However, in the composite it is less personal; as "A's" Moon is not squaring "B's" Mercury. Instead it is an aspect of the relationship itself...can't be changed. Some people (as I have seen 'googling' upon the web) note the composite as the 'final' outcome of the relationship; what one gets' out of it overall.

Overall, I think that the longer a couple stays together...the more the composite starts to 'play' out.

I don't think I helped much; I hope I made some sense...eh...lol.

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posted September 21, 2018 06:08 PM            

My mother says I am the only child she fell like she fell in love with when I was born, even now as an adult yes is like she is in love with me in a mother/daughter way, "in love" fits.

posted September 21, 2018 08:54 PM            

It's the vibe, the tone and the nature of the "our relationship" that is experienced fully, by the two people who are consciously (or unconsciously too) engaging in the relationship. That is to say, if they are not engaging in the relationship, the composite is still there hovering between the two people as a potential experience, should they decide to engage with one another at a greater level.

hypatia238, I was also thinking last night about identities.. A composite relationship can still happen with no linkages from natals I'm convinced. But, I am thinking that, the lesser the natal linkage into the composite, the further away from the personal identity of that natal person the composite relationship's nature is. And the harder it is to keep connected to that natal original self then, the deeper the person gets into the composite relationship.

This is potentially how we can see in astrology, how people can lose themselves in a relationships. I.e: if their natals are not so linked into the composite, it is harder to keep in touch with their other identity, that of the natal chart that is existing outside of the composite (because it's not linked in). It will take effort to keep that identity alive, and if not done, the person may experience erosion to, and a submersion of, their own identity. Which, of course, is seen all the time.

hypatia238, I was wondering how interlinked you both are into the composite with your partner that you speak of here?

posted September 22, 2018 04:08 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:

hypatia238, I was also thinking last night about identities.. A composite relationship can still happen with no linkages from natals I'm convinced. But, I am thinking that, the lesser the natal linkage into the composite, the further away from the personal identity of that natal person the composite relationship's nature is. And the harder it is to keep connected to that natal original self then, the deeper the person gets into the composite relationship.

This is potentially how we can see in astrology, how people can lose themselves in a relationships. I.e: if their natals are not so linked into the composite, it is harder to keep in touch with their other identity, that of the natal chart that is existing outside of the composite (because it's not linked in). It will take effort to keep that identity alive, and if not done, the person may experience erosion to, and a submersion of, their own identity. Which, of course, is seen all the time.

hypatia238, I was wondering how interlinked you both are into the composite with your partner that you speak of here?

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....a portal to another world! I Like it. I see what you mean, each relationship bc of the nature of the composite/davison brings with it a set of unique experiences that you otherwise would not be exposed to and it can feel like another world that you are tapping into.

Sassa I love your theory there about composites that link to the natals versus composites that don't! I feel you are definitely unto something there...This is definitely worth exploring. I would say that if the composite connects with your natal a certain way it may activate more certain parts of you allowing you to explore those parts of you more in depth while perhaps neglecting other parts of you that may be important to you as well.

With my partner our AC conjuncts my AMOR in pisces exact and our DC conjuncts my Priapus. This means our composite chart rulers are NEPTUNE and JUPITER, our NEPTUNE conjuncts exact my AC but that would only be felt via transit probably bc our neptune is a midpoint and my AC is a point too, then our JUPITER which rules our MC conjuncts my PLUTO in the 10th. I would say that my relationship with him was very inline with my direction and goals in life, my desire/need for adventure and to explore. I have Jupiter conjunct Uranus ruling my Chart and we have composite Uranus at a critical degree exalted (scorpio at 29 degrees) conjunct our MC in Sag at 0 Degrees. This relationship has made it VERY VERY easy to connect with my chart ruler Jupiter conjunct Uranus ideals and goals even though it does not activate it directly, it has supplied plenty of experiences that help me get in touch with my Jupiter conjunct Uranus chart ruler spirit and needs and allowed me to explore this side of me fully. This would explain why in spite of certain needs been neglected that are also important to my spirit and my essence we have lasted together for a total of 11 years (started dating back in 2007). In composite we have SUN conjunct Mercury a the beginning of the 8th conjunct HIS SUN in Libra, he is deeply attached to the idea of this relationship and us been together, I feel it is part of his identity more than it is part of mine. I think the way the composite links to his chart and the way the composite links to mine perhaps explains this.