posted October 24, 2018 08:25 PM            

So, everything about this person's astrological chart points to his ego. Sun and Mars (both in Pisces) in his fifth house. Moon in Leo - in his 'status' (10th) house. North node conjunct ascendant in Libra. And its' ruler Venus in Aries in his 7th house. Like gosh don't think it can get any stronger than this 🤨. It's literally just about him. (Besides the ascendant ruler in his 7th house maybe? But it still refers back to his self - cuz this ruler of Aries is in a Leo house so...)

Anyway, I'm mostly curious about what it means when their ego shines through. Is it them trying to show off just cuz 'someone's' there or is it them trying to show off cuz 'you're' there? And how does it play out with this Pisces Sun sign? (Putting this 'forward' planet Sun in the Moon's position and topping it off with one of the most feminine signs...)

This person is really confusing. Starts out with showing interest, then gets all cocky and stuff. I back down. He shows interest again, just to continue with this same attitude again. I'm not sure if he's just using me to pump his ego a bit or...?

Thing is we really hit it off well at first (no ego involvement at that point weirdly enough), everything just changed thereafter. And I'm just so confused as to what actually goes through his brain, if anything at all.

posted October 25, 2018 02:35 AM            

It's funny so unlike me to spill my guts lol but oh well.

Anyway, it's interesting his attitude didn't necessarily bother me at first. Maybe that's the reason things felt so light. But once I started really being into him it kinda started bothering me. Like he shouldn't feel so 'loose' about it am I not right? That's when it started getting all tacky, when he hit me up (after due to somethin we didn't speak for 2 months or so) - I asked him why he reached out, which is when it started getting all wonky. Anyway. After him fluffing his ego for several weeks (like at this point, conversations happened once or so times per week), I blocked him with literally no explanation.

So just a week ago (after a bit over a year) I thought I'd wanna come clean with him. And thought I'd be very forward about the actual reason of mine, should he choose to 'accept' it so to speak. I made it super casual that he shouldn't feel like he needs to rekindle anything, cuz more than anything I wanted him to want to. And it seemed like he did. He was actually being kinda aggressive about it at first. He ultimately called me the following day and the conversation ended with something like, quote 'but yeah, hit me up anytime, ok?'.

First this question. What precisely does this mean, 'hit me up anytime'? Is this more of a Mars Pisces thing? Like shouldn't he wanna hit me up? Especially with his Aries Venus.

But anyway when I did hit him up, everything came back. All the memories. His ego. Argh. We just had a super basic conversation. Honestly I kinda felt the tension from the get go of this convo, but it actually hit the wall when he asked me what I do these days. When I followed up with the same question. No response, he just 'likes' my comment. Like dude, I don't care what **** you're into, just respond like a decent being, just like you'd respond to any random person. I gave it to him 'nicely' lol at this point I was more aware of these lunar Leo's 😏. His response: 'sorry 🤷' (claimed that he had a hard day, whatever if true - this response to me seems like he doesn't know what he's sorry for)

posted October 25, 2018 09:52 AM            

my reasons for doing it might be different but i mean really i'm not sure what you expect or why you think it has to mean anything more than he had a hard day and he was tired

sometimes all someone just sort of letting you know they read something is what they have time for or feel like giving you

why do you need more from him right after blocking him anyway? that seems odd to me

in my case

i might hit the chick up before she hit me up if i felt like it, but at the same time if she was going to block me without explanation then get back to me later sith some story i wouldnt necessarily care all that much about getting back to her

even if i liked her i'd figure she was already being difficult and that would just mean a future of **** i didnt want to deal with

unless she was persistant in which case probably sex and nothing else

because again doing that right away isnt exactly promising, though if she eventually seemed special i might chase her for a bit if it seemed fun or worthwhile on some level

though i'd just talk then because i wouldnt care if she did something stupid if she was interesting enough afterwards and i wouldnt care who said what first

me saying "hit me up any time" is me saying i'd do the same probably

so i dont necessarily think it means anything

at the same time, the guy is a leo moon pisces and you blocked him without reason, he likes forward women and has a passive mars and you're expecting him to what? come after you?

that's funny, but i mean really...

i think youre likely taking minor thingss personally and placing expectations on him that you really shouldnt

youre saying "shouldnt he" like any person behaves in any particular way when they feel something

there's not really a should or shouldnt there, there's just a "how do they react? how do they show this or that?" which is different

there's not a set standard and youre being unfair by treating it like there is

if he annoys you so much don't talk to him, because you aren't doing him any favors with hot and cold actions right from the start and then continuing that

but if youre actually interested then give him a chance without expectations and try getting to know him

he likes aggressive women if you need a guy to chase after you for you to feel secure enough that youre wanted then a pisces sun leo moon pisces mars isnt the guy for you

posted October 25, 2018 02:43 PM            

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i'm not really getting the issue, i don't have that combination (i have the opposite in sidereal for whatever that's worth to you, leo sun pisces moon,but you're probably using tropical so aries moon virgo sun) and that's something i'd do

my reasons for doing it might be different but i mean really i'm not sure what you expect or why you think it has to mean anything more than he had a hard day and he was tired

sometimes all someone just sort of letting you know they read something is what they have time for or feel like giving you

why do you need more from him right after blocking him anyway? that seems odd to me

in my case

i might hit the chick up before she hit me up if i felt like it, but at the same time if she was going to block me without explanation then get back to me later sith some story i wouldnt necessarily care all that much about getting back to her

even if i liked her i'd figure she was already being difficult and that would just mean a future of **** i didnt want to deal with

unless she was persistant in which case probably sex and nothing else

because again doing that right away isnt exactly promising, though if she eventually seemed special i might chase her for a bit if it seemed fun or worthwhile on some level

though i'd just talk then because i wouldnt care if she did something stupid if she was interesting enough afterwards and i wouldnt care who said what first

me saying "hit me up any time" is me saying i'd do the same probably

so i dont necessarily think it means anything

at the same time, the guy is a leo moon pisces and you blocked him without reason, he likes forward women and has a passive mars and you're expecting him to what? come after you?

that's funny, but i mean really...

i think youre likely taking minor thingss personally and placing expectations on him that you really shouldnt

youre saying "shouldnt he" like any person behaves in any particular way when they feel something

there's not really a should or shouldnt there, there's just a "how do they react? how do they show this or that?" which is different

there's not a set standard and youre being unfair by treating it like there is

if he annoys you so much don't talk to him, because you aren't doing him any favors with hot and cold actions right from the start and then continuing that

but if youre actually interested then give him a chance without expectations and try getting to know him

he likes aggressive women if you need a guy to chase after you for you to feel secure enough that youre wanted then a pisces sun leo moon pisces mars isnt the guy for you

because he isnt going to do that, he needs a girl who will do that for him and you arent her

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Thanks Dumuzi. It's not that I need more from him right after hitting him up after a year of not speaking, but my attempt to ask a standard question... I mean don't just throw me off right away. He's sending the wrong vibes. To me that portrays disinterest vs just having a hard day.

And the reason for me blocking him... Alright lol he was acting like he deserves it. In the beginning, I really was just being myself. Things went great. He was actually the one to ask me out. (he mentioned right when we met up that he hadn't met a girl in person after just a random chat)

Then he just put this blockage to it all... After our first time, I was actually the one to ask him out... And he was just straight up telling me (I had just gotten divorced then) that I need time to find myself. Like dude excuse me lol. Kinda put a hit to my ego too, gotta say. But he did also say that I should hit him up in a couple of months.

At that point I knew nothing about astrology. (he had unknowingly gotten me into it lol - at least he had a good cause)

But anyway, he ended up hitting me up again after 2 months. At that point I just felt super little to say the least... Which is why I asked him why he reached out. And that's when our communication started going sour.

So after me feeling like that little thing and him trying to be this bigger than bigger thing, I just wanted out.

Now, I had kinda gotten over it. So I reached out cuz it felt like an unfinished story.

Then he gives me this attitude all over again... Like I don't need him to do all the hitting up, but I just need to feel that his interest is there.

And he probably has his own story for doing what he's doing... Which is why I thought I needed an outsiders perspective. Like if going about pursuing the guy wouldn't just alienate the situation even more.

And oh he doesn't annoy me at all lol. I don't think I ever felt so strongly about a guy, I'm adamant about getting him. I'm just trying to understand where he's coming from and use the best approach, last thing I wanna do is mess things up again.

And you said I should give him a chance... I really already did. I wonder if he'll hit me up again after our last interaction. And if not, how I should be viewing it as. If disinterest that is...

posted October 25, 2018 04:06 PM            

Someone was telling me to have someone do something at a given time. Then he dropped in, 'cuz otherwise, he won't do it on his own'. I immediately checked what that person's Mars sign is and sure enough, it was Pisces. He pretty much nailed this trait in one sentence.

posted October 26, 2018 09:24 AM            

my fiancee has a pisces mars (scorpio venus conjunct pluto) and sometimes even when she wants something she just gets overwhelmed by the process of getting it and wont just do it on her own

with her job... i wake up with her and help her get herself together mentally snd physically to even go

pisces mars has trouble self motivating some of the time even though theyre creative and can accomplish things

it makes sense why he didnt want to just be a rebound, which is often how things go when someone has just gotten out of a relationship

pisces sun leo moon, the guy needs a level of security (aries venus... he needs a woman to make him feel secure)

youre waiting on him to be someone else, and calling him yours is just...

i feel like asking you what aspects to pluto or planets in scorpio you have tbh

also just because something looks like disinterest to you doesnt mean that it is

your perspective isnt necessarily reality, it's just how you feel

you keep talking about his ego, but he's a leo moon so im not sure what you expect there

leo moons can be really sensitive and need a lot of attention, my younger brother has one and is typically very approval seeking

this isnt going to chase you the way you want most likely, and it doesnt sound like you're doing anything to make him want to either

no offense, it just all seems unbalanced and like a bad idea

posted October 26, 2018 11:56 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
everything youre saying to me just sort of sounds like you play games, and want someone else

my fiancee has a pisces mars (scorpio venus conjunct pluto) and sometimes even when she wants something she just gets overwhelmed by the process of getting it and wont just do it on her own

with her job... i wake up with her and help her get herself together mentally snd physically to even go

pisces mars has trouble self motivating some of the time even though theyre creative and can accomplish things

it makes sense why he didnt want to just be a rebound, which is often how things go when someone has just gotten out of a relationship

pisces sun leo moon, the guy needs a level of security (aries venus... he needs a woman to make him feel secure)

youre waiting on him to be someone else, and calling him yours is just...

i feel like asking you what aspects to pluto or planets in scorpio you have tbh

also just because something looks like disinterest to you doesnt mean that it is

your perspective isnt necessarily reality, it's just how you feel

you keep talking about his ego, but he's a leo moon so im not sure what you expect there

leo moons can be really sensitive and need a lot of attention, my younger brother has one and is typically very approval seeking

this isnt going to chase you the way you want most likely, and it doesnt sound like you're doing anything to make him want to either

no offense, it just all seems unbalanced and like a bad idea

that all being said, have fun with it

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Alright lol thanks appreciate it. And I was kidding about calling him mine c'mon. (ruling planet Mercury in Aries I guess) He actually has more Pluto aspects than me. It's actually pretty balanced.

For me, it opposes my sun and trines my Mars.
For him, it trines his moon and Saturn and squares his Sun and Mars.

Thanks for shedding some light, and you're right I should just act myself which is apparently not what I was doing. It is simply me trying to act based off of his energy. (sun/moon in the twelfth house so...) But I think my Mercury squaring Mars should sort that out, I come off as really self assured. Probably a bit tamed with Venus in my first, but still that sizzle is there no doubt. And it conjuncts his Venus Aries so that's good.

posted October 26, 2018 12:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Alright lol thanks appreciate it. And I was kidding about calling him mine c'mon. (ruling planet Mercury in Aries I guess) He actually has more Pluto aspects than me. It's actually pretty balanced.

For me, it opposes my sun and trines my Mars.
For him, it trines his moon and Saturn and squares his Sun and Mars.

Thanks for shedding some light, and you're right I should just act myself which is apparently not what I was doing. It is simply me trying to act based off of his energy. (sun/moon in the twelfth house so...) But I think my Mercury squaring Mars should sort that out, I come off as really self assured. Probably a bit tamed with Venus in my first, but still that sizzle is there no doubt. And it conjuncts his Venus Aries so that's good.

I'll definitely post an update on here. And the credit will be yours haha.

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i'm aware you were joking however people who play games with people typically do feel entitled to that person and that person's reactions

there is a level of projected ownership usually

so while you said "mine" as a joke it does further illustrate that game playing behavior you were exhibiting

which is why i asked about pluto (also more pluto contacts doesnt necessarily mean much since a single very prominent one can be stronger than a few minor ones like a hard one to your sun like what you have for example)

because usually people who test and try to control people's reactions (which is what things like blocking someone or playing the waiting game is... "if they react this way to me doing this then theyre really interested" etc) tend to have a placement in their charts thats either heavy pluto/scorpio (in the case where their vulnerabilities cause it) or gemini where it's more lighthearted at least from what i've seen

so you arent being yourself, youre projecting things onto him etc and it just... surface view seems like a terrible starting point for anything

doesnt exactly predict the future but it isnt promising either

no offense but if i were him if a girl did all of that and didnt just walk up to me and tell me she wanted to hook up no strings attached necessarily i wouldnt bite or chase or make an effort

because theres plenty of women who are just themselves and arent going to play games and if they are they at least wait until after sex which is preferable

i have a leo mercury and an easy time understanding leo moons, and already this guy cant feel secure with you and thats an issue for a leo moon

i'd look elsewhere to be honest

edit: btw his prominent pluto placements were irrelevant, ive noticed a lot of people with strong pluto or strong scorpio deflect like this when their behavior is mentioned so i figured i'd call you on it

i was talking about pluto in your chart only because everything you said came off like you had something in scorpio or a hard aspect to pluto on a personal planet or pluto in a significant house etc

i have sun sextile pluto (well it's in a minor trine with pluto and neptune technically) and pluto in my first house in placidus (i have a libra ascendant conjunct libra venus, so pluto moves to my 2nd house if you use whole sign) and im with ive been with someone who has a lot of scorpio/pluto energy for 14 years

posted October 26, 2018 12:47 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i'm aware you were joking however people who play games with people typically do feel entitled to that person and that person's reactions

there is a level of projected ownership usually

so while you said "mine" as a joke it does further illustrate that game playing behavior you were exhibiting

which is why i asked about pluto (also more pluto contacts doesnt necessarily mean much since a single very prominent one can be stronger than a few minor ones like a hard one to your sun like what you have for example)

because usually people who test and try to control people's reactions (which is what things like blocking someone or playing the waiting game is... "if they react this way to me doing this then theyre really interested" etc) tend to have a placement in their charts thats either heavy pluto/scorpio (in the case where their vulnerabilities cause it) or gemini where it's more lighthearted at least from what i've seen

so you arent being yourself, youre projecting things onto him etc and it just... surface view seems like a terrible starting point for anything

doesnt exactly predict the future but it isnt promising either

no offense but if i were him if a girl did all of that and didnt just walk up to me and tell me she wanted to hook up no strings attached necessarily i wouldnt bite or chase or make an effort

because theres plenty of women who are just themselves and arent going to play games and if they are they at least wait until after sex which is preferable

i have a leo mercury and an easy time understanding leo moons, and already this guy cant feel secure with you and thats an issue for a leo moon

i'd look elsewhere to be honest

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The reason for blocking him was really against what I was gonna do. I was talking to this other Pisces guy about it... That's his only Pisces planet, the rest is Aries so I understand where he's coming from... He told me 'he's playing games with you, block him - now'. Haha honestly I never would've listened to him if I wouldn't be so stressed out about it. It had gotten to my stomach I just wanted to breathe again. I really had no personal intentions.

Right Pluto would probably (definitely) cause someone to be manipulative. Honestly I think manipulation is an art. Especially involving Mercury, I have an obsession with it lol. (apparently I failed miserably lol) But it's definitely more the lighthearted kind. My moon and rising in Gemini, I really don't feel that heaviness when manipulating, it's more 'ok this apparently didn't trigger anything within him so I'll have a different approach next time'.

But again I wasn't trying to manipulate him. It was just the thickness in the air I couldn't handle. And in all honesty him having this hard aspects to Pluto, I wonder if he isn't playing games with me. Cuz when I hit him up again, I told him upfront that 'I felt that you knew that I kinda liked you, and were just using it to ride on me'. He seemed game with it. Like he didn't try and back down.

posted October 26, 2018 01:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
The reason for blocking him was really against what I was gonna do. I was talking to this other Pisces guy about it... That's his only Pisces planet, the rest is Aries so I understand where he's coming from... He told me 'he's playing games with you, block him - now'. Haha honestly I never would've listened to him if I wouldn't be so stressed out about it. It had gotten to my stomach I just wanted to breathe again. I really had no personal intentions.

Right Pluto would probably (definitely) cause someone to be manipulative. Honestly I think manipulation is an art. Especially involving Mercury, I have an obsession with it lol. (apparently I failed miserably lol) But it's definitely more the lighthearted kind. My moon and rising in Gemini, I really don't feel that heaviness when manipulating, it's more 'ok this apparently didn't trigger anything within him so I'll have a different approach next time'.

But again I wasn't trying to manipulate him. It was just the thickness in the air I couldn't handle. And in all honesty him having this hard aspects to Pluto, I wonder if he isn't playing games with me. Cuz when I hit him up again, I told him upfront that 'I felt that you knew that I kinda liked you, and were just using it to ride on me'. He seemed game with it. Like he didn't try and back down.

Alright guess I'll just go back to my standard stress free self. Dunno how I was planning to act like this for the rest of my life. 😏

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i always wonder why women listen to guys about other guys tbh

idk that you failed miserably, because idk what his deal is

it just comes through in the things you've said that you have that kind of energy in your chart (funny that you have strong gemini and pluto aspects btw, nice to see both things i mentioned as possibilities fit) because to me? all of that (including going to another guy and asking and listening etc) it's all games ultimately

being yourself is better for starting a relationship anyway like you said you cant keep a game like that going forever anyway

besides seems like a lot of energy wasted and investment into the phase of a relationship thats supposed to be fun and easy and not require work like that

the longterm is where things are supposed to get harder beginnings should just be fun

posted October 26, 2018 01:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i always wonder why women listen to guys about other guys tbh

idk that you failed miserably, because idk what his deal is

it just comes through in the things you've said that you have that kind of energy in your chart (funny that you have strong gemini and pluto aspects btw, nice to see both things i mentioned as possibilities fit) because to me? all of that (including going to another guy and asking and listening etc) it's all games ultimately

being yourself is better for starting a relationship anyway like you said you cant keep a game like that going forever anyway

besides seems like a lot of energy wasted and investment into the phase of a relationship thats supposed to be fun and easy and not require work like that

the longterm is where things are supposed to get harder beginnings should just be fun

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Lol I was really close with him at that point in time and I just needed some suggestion to grab onto, and his suggestion was the first 'latch' so to speak.

And I meant failed with the manipulation part, he's probably too intuitive for that to work. Unless I'm slick of course.

And yeah spot on with your assumptions, pretty cool. Good job. 😎

And Amen to that about the investment part from the beginning. Too much, lesson learned I guess. I don't regret learning about Astrology though. (Aquarius tenth house, who knows might end up being a career of mine lol oh well)

posted October 26, 2018 02:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol I was really close with him at that point in time and I just needed some suggestion to grab onto, and his suggestion was the first 'latch' so to speak.

And I meant failed with the manipulation part, he's probably too intuitive for that to work. Unless I'm slick of course.

And yeah spot on with your assumptions, pretty cool. Good job. 😎

And Amen to that about the investment part from the beginning. Too much, lesson learned I guess. I don't regret learning about Astrology though. (Aquarius tenth house, who knows might end up being a career of mine lol oh well)

Thanks again, appreciate it all.

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what i mean by that is chances are if a guy is giving you advice about other guys there's usually a conflict of interest there so it's probably not the best to latch onto

i know what you meant, i just meant for all i know it worked on him, leo moon is kind of... well...

i can talk my younger brother into doing all kinds of stupid funny **** by appealing to his leo moon

"it would be so cool if..." or "you would be like (insert character in something he likes here) if you did that" (he's 27 btw... not a kid, this still works no matter how old we get) and because he likes attention and also likes being seen as cool (which is why mentioning characters he likes works, because then they already fit his idea of cool) it's usually pretty entertaining; keeps holidays interesting

he once put a hole in the wall in our mother's house by accident because i got him to try to climb it by talking about spiderman (i was idk 26 at the time so he was 22 or something like that)

there's a narrow hallway and instead of balancing his weight out he put his back against one wall then his leg through the other when he pushed all his weight down

i could tell from the beginning he was going to **** it up, but i hadnt been expecting that

he's a sag sun, but my point is leo moons tend to respond to anything that hits their ego right even if it's stupid and they should know better while theyre in the moment

so it's highly possible he did miss it in spite of the pisces sun, depends on his rising and chart really

i used to only be able to figure out who has a virgo mercury based on the migraine talking to them can give me or what women have cancer placements based on their rack so this is an improvement

funny enough i learned astrology because of a woman... but considering all the weird places thats led and how intriguing it is anyway i cant say i mind

posted October 26, 2018 02:41 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
what i mean by that is chances are if a guy is giving you advice about other guys there's usually a conflict of interest there so it's probably not the best to latch onto

i know what you meant, i just meant for all i know it worked on him, leo moon is kind of... well...

i can talk my younger brother into doing all kinds of stupid funny **** by appealing to his leo moon

"it would be so cool if..." or "you would be like (insert character in something he likes here) if you did that" (he's 27 btw... not a kid, this still works no matter how old we get) and because he likes attention and also likes being seen as cool (which is why mentioning characters he likes works, because then they already fit his idea of cool) it's usually pretty entertaining; keeps holidays interesting

he once put a hole in the wall in our mother's house by accident because i got him to try to climb it by talking about spiderman (i was idk 26 at the time so he was 22 or something like that)

there's a narrow hallway and instead of balancing his weight out he put his back against one wall then his leg through the other when he pushed all his weight down

i could tell from the beginning he was going to **** it up, but i hadnt been expecting that

he's a sag sun, but my point is leo moons tend to respond to anything that hits their ego right even if it's stupid and they should know better while theyre in the moment

so it's highly possible he did miss it in spite of the pisces sun, depends on his rising and chart really

i used to only be able to figure out who has a virgo mercury based on the migraine talking to them can give me or what women have cancer placements based on their rack so this is an improvement

funny enough i learned astrology because of a woman... but considering all the weird places thats led and how intriguing it is anyway i cant say i mind

good luck with everything, hopefully you find someone who's less work

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Lol it's funny my ex husband of 6 years has a Leo moon Sag Sun. I think one thing I did like about him was his Leo moon. I just felt empowered being able to manipulate his mood lol weird. But there was a real power struggle there, he wanted to be boss and so did I.

Oh and my Venus and Mars is in Cancer.

posted October 26, 2018 06:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol it's funny my ex husband of 6 years has a Leo moon Sag Sun. I think one thing I did like about him was his Leo moon. I just felt empowered being able to manipulate his mood lol weird. But there was a real power struggle there, he wanted to be boss and so did I.

Oh and my Venus and Mars is in Cancer.

And I guess I'll see how it goes after this.

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mars in cancer is a difficult one, everyone i know with mars there is prone to odd outbursts of aggression that dont make sense and trying to control everyone's movements but in ways that dont make sense (i had a fwbs with mars in cancer, my mother has it, and a friend of mine does too) though my difficulties with them could also stem from my capricorn mars

i imagine venus softens it a bit

sag suns can be difficult since they're "always right" i imagine a leo moon amplifies that tenfold

my fiancee is scorpio heavy (mercury, and venus conjunct pluto in scorpio) but she has a sag sun (conjunct saturn and uranus), aquarius ascendant, and pisces mars (conjunct jupiter) and aries moon

and thats an intense combination

14 years, but sometimes... im waiting for the day she kills me in my sleep and sometimes that doesnt feel like it'll come soon enough 😂

leo placements can be manipulated, but really shouldnt, because the reality is theyre genuine and mean well so it's just taking advantage really

posted October 27, 2018 08:50 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
mars in cancer is a difficult one, everyone i know with mars there is prone to odd outbursts of aggression that dont make sense and trying to control everyone's movements but in ways that dont make sense (i had a fwbs with mars in cancer, my mother has it, and a friend of mine does too) though my difficulties with them could also stem from my capricorn mars

i imagine venus softens it a bit

sag suns can be difficult since they're "always right" i imagine a leo moon amplifies that tenfold

my fiancee is scorpio heavy (mercury, and venus conjunct pluto in scorpio) but she has a sag sun (conjunct saturn and uranus), aquarius ascendant, and pisces mars (conjunct jupiter) and aries moon

and thats an intense combination

14 years, but sometimes... im waiting for the day she kills me in my sleep and sometimes that doesnt feel like it'll come soon enough 😂

leo placements can be manipulated, but really shouldnt, because the reality is theyre genuine and mean well so it's just taking advantage really

unless it's all in good fun and you get to watch one do dumb **** for attention

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Lol that's so true though with the Cancer Mars. And not so certain about Venus softening it (it's not conjunct - 7 and 23 degree). In this case for example feeling passionately about someone just channels into aggression if over due. I think I just transform into an Aries lol. ****** and just leave them high and dry. Although that's probably just a ****** Cancer.

And lol funny you're saying that about Sag. Was always an argument as to who thinks they're always right. I mean I come off that way too (Taurus Sun) but he no doubt budges at all ever. If you give me an intelligent reason I will. He never. Ever. Like ever ever lol.

And 🤣😂 you're too funny. I think her Pisces Mars would like to do that slowly though lol. But dang that's a long time, good for you. And congrats BTW (your fiance you said).

posted October 27, 2018 10:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol that's so true though with the Cancer Mars. And not so certain about Venus softening it (it's not conjunct - 7 and 23 degree). In this case for example feeling passionately about someone just channels into aggression if over due. I think I just transform into an Aries lol. ****** and just leave them high and dry. Although that's probably just a ****** Cancer.

And lol funny you're saying that about Sag. Was always an argument as to who thinks they're always right. I mean I come off that way too (Taurus Sun) but he no doubt budges at all ever. If you give me an intelligent reason I will. He never. Ever. Like ever ever lol.

And 🤣😂 you're too funny. I think her Pisces Mars would like to do that slowly though lol. But dang that's a long time, good for you. And congrats BTW (your fiance you said).

And lol yeah no it's like watching a kid run off to school cuz I told him he's best. Dunno just find it to be amusing.

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yeah i've noticed with cancer mars there's that extreme sensitivity and it's not ill intentioned but it can come out sort of... awkward? i guess

even the anger and rage it's real and there and vicious (very much so) but there's something about it that just gets really miscommunicated and often it gets set off by things that dont make sense while worse things are internalized

i think thats where that sort of aggressiveness is, more that its not proportionate to the situation

when they should be angry they cant express it and when they could stand to dial it down they go all out

it's interesting to me

i imagine youre probably well intentioned though

lol yeah the always right argument, ive had that one so many times

it never gets resolved because i know when im right

slowly like poison over a long period of time or slowly like strangulation? id hope for the latter but i guess the former is ok

hiring someone else would probably work out better for her, in case she lost interest halfway through or something

yeah lol leo moon is exactly like that

"youre the best" and then everything is right in the world

it's endearing

posted October 27, 2018 10:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

slowly like poison over a long period of time or slowly like strangulation? id hope for the latter but i guess the former is ok

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Lol your sense of humor. It's like disconnected but there. Actually funny you. (definitely missed it at first lol you were just trying to bring me down - guess that was your Pluto talking)

posted October 27, 2018 11:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol your sense of humor. It's like disconnected but there. Actually funny you. (definitely missed it at first lol you were just trying to bring me down - guess that was your Pluto talking)

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i was joking, but does it count as disconnected if it's true?

sorry if you got the impression i was trying to bring you down, i was just noticing the energy you put out there

the pluto gemini stuff

i can come off like a dick though so i get it

edit: lol it's cool i didn't take it personally

i know what i'm like and that people vary

i generally agree with you anyway like i said

especially a strong virgo mercury they give me a headache with the nitpicking all the time about every detail

i feel like you need to break out a dictionary and have a philosophical discussion about subjectivity for an hour before you can talk about anything, every time

posted October 27, 2018 11:20 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i was joking, but does it count as disconnected if it's true?

sorry if you got the impression i was trying to bring you down, i was just noticing the energy you put out there

the pluto gemini stuff

i can come off like a dick though so i get it

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Lol I guess this is the part where I'm just being another 😏 girl. Being a d*ck can for some odd reason be attractive. Didn't necessarily get offended, just felt the need to defend myself. And no that's not called being offended lol.

BTW not sure if you saw my previous edit, gonna paste it in here again.

posted October 27, 2018 11:23 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

like getting automated messages back

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posted October 27, 2018 11:32 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol I guess this is the part where I'm just being another 😏 girl. Being a d*ck can for some odd reason be attractive. Didn't necessarily get offended, just felt the need to defend myself. And no that's not called being offended lol.

BTW not sure if you saw my previous edit, gonna paste it in here again.

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Sorry just realized your Virgo sun lol didn't mean you in that other post. You're actually kinda cool although I probably don't really know you.

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i dont know you well enough to say whether or not you're just another girl

i didnt think you were offended, just that i probably came off wrong

i can be harsher than intended

im.really hard to offend in all honesty, i dont take very much seriously and then even when things are serious i usually cant find reasons why they have to matter

posted October 27, 2018 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:

my fiancee does tell me my looks are better than my personality though, im ok with that

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posted October 27, 2018 11:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i dont know you well enough to say whether or not you're just another girl

i didnt think you were offended, just that i probably came off wrong

i can be harsher than intended

im.really hard to offend in all honesty, i dont take very much seriously and then even when things are serious i usually cant find reasons why they have to matter

my fiancee does tell me my looks are better than my personality though, im ok with that

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posted October 28, 2018 12:37 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
BTW does someone get notified when I quote them? (kinda new on here so don't know)

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posted October 28, 2018 01:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
no i was just checking every so often because i was smoking and bored and could tell you were around

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