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ana_bee
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posted October 27, 2018 05:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just noticed that all of my significant romantic relationships had the composite vertex in 7th house or conj the Dsc! These relationships didn’t last, obviously.. but they were either long-term or very significant.

I also noticed the dynamic between vertex conj Dsc from 6th or from the 7th house. The ones from the 7th felt like a real partnership, the ones from the 6th had a victim/savior theme. They were usually less harmonious, but nonetheless deep and transforming.

The one, where vertex fell somewhere in the middle of the 7th house, closer to the 8th, burned out quickly.

Since I’m only talking about 6 relationships (3 long-term, 1 short, 2 longer flings), there’s of course not much empirical data to back up a whole theory. But those were my personal observations, so far.

Now my question is.. wouldn’t it be possible to loosely guess someone’s Asc (if only one person’s TOB is not known), by aiming for the vertex, to land somewhere in the 7th house?

What is your experience with vertex in a composite chart?


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posted October 28, 2018 03:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted October 28, 2018 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not referring to composite charts, but I do love to guess people's ascendant and I'm most of the time pretty spot on.

First, sometimes you can be of luck if the moon changes sign that day... Because guessing between two moon signs should be easy.

With the correct one, there's just x amount of rising sign options within that time period.

Say moon changes at 6pm, you only got 3 or so ascendant options if the moon sign is the latter one. Doomed if it's the former one lol jk.

So how I usually go about it, what's the general energy you pick up on when talking to that person. Is it earthy? Is it fiery? You're just supposed to tune into the energies itself although I'm pretty intuitive so not something I can necessarily teach.

A good way of 'seeing' the energy... How does that person 'look' when you watch them from afar? Not necessarily the actual actions. But how they go about acting those actions.

I'll give an example of some artist I was trying to figure out... I thought Leo, due to him appearing to be this one and only worthy dude in the room by his weird hand gestures. That ended up being his sun sign though. So the actual actions in itself, that's the sun. The rising would be not necessarily 'what' that person does, but 'how' he does it.

And back track it. See if the signs of the angles or houses play into that area of his life. See where his planets are at and see if it fits the description.

One that's pretty cool is where the Mercury is at. What does this person like to talk about? Obviously the planets making aspects to Mercury will transform it to some extent, but it should tell you a whole lot. For example me, talk to me about astrology anytime, or 11th house stuff which is where my Mercury is at. 1st house? Loves to brag about himself. 10th house probably of ways to get famous. Actually referring here to people I know lol it definitely holds true.

Saturn is also a good one. Is he consumed with his job? 6th house. All of that, ya know.

Good luck.

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posted October 28, 2018 05:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And one more tip. Go with what you instinctively feel it is, cuz that's probably the correct one. I only go wrong when I start over-analyzing and making sense of it.

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posted October 28, 2018 05:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good advice Brenda 👍I agree. I always like when the moon is between signs for that very reason haha

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posted October 28, 2018 06:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow if it works that well for you, great!
Going by appearance, I’ ve been always wrong though.
I can pick up the energy of people quite well, still there are so many variables.. there just needs to be some planet on the Asc and the whole impression is off..
For example, I initially thought my ex was a Sag Asc with Sun or Moon in Scorpio. Tall, dark, vibrant, warm, muscular legs, great posture, amazing skin. Also mysterious and deep. I’ve never seen anyone who could hold a gaze for that long!

Turns out he’s just a Virgo, with a Cancer Moon and Cancer Asc. But his Jupiter is conj Asc!! And that makes all the difference.

That he’s a Virgo made more and more sense after getting to know him better, btw. So maybe it’s true, that the sun is something, we only feel after knowing someone better. Very picky, very perfectionist, low self-esteem, that he hides behind his bold behaviour and criticism. And his great body is not God-given, but due to a very annoying fitness routine. (me being a bit passive aggressive here) LOL

The tip with the moons is really good, for a start.

But I’m still wondering if I’m on to something, with my comp Vertex in 7th house - theory ..

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posted October 28, 2018 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess the two of them together would carry more weight.

BTW not sure if you saw the edit to my initial post... Think it's worth the read 😉

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posted October 28, 2018 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ana_bee:

Now my question is.. wouldn’t it be possible to loosely guess someone’s Asc (if only one person’s TOB is not known), by aiming for the vertex, to land somewhere in the 7th house?

What is your experience with vertex in a composite chart?


That would not be possible because it would be assuming all your relationships from then on would have Vertex in the 7th, which is not always the case. The Vertex, natal or composite, depends on the birth time, thus it can be any sign in relation to any ASC, but it would only land in certain houses. That's probably why you would think it would be easy to use to guess the ASC but the problem is that it would go in reverse. You need the ASC to even know what their vertex is in the first place. And at that point, there's no reason to guess it since you would already know their ASC and thus their vertex. Does that make sense?

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posted October 28, 2018 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@capricorncheri
I understand what you’re saying..
But my assumption is (if I’m right) that in significant relationships, the vertex usually lands somewhere around the Dsc in a composite chart..

So by theory, one could play around with the birth time to see in what time frame this might occur.
Obviously this won’t work for any time.. since vertex can fall in the houses 5th to 8th. So one could narrow it down at least to 2-3 signs.. opposed to 12, and work from there.

The basis for this is of course to have a couple who have already established a serious relationship, but where one person’s TOB is just not known. There are other methods to guess the Asc, as has already been written, but I’m particularly interested in this one. I was wondering if this might work, hence my question.

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Brenda_S
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posted October 31, 2018 10:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vertex landing in the composite seventh of significant relationships is certainly not a given. True it would say something if it's there, but...

Just like all beautiful people don't necessarily have Venus as their ruling planet. But it would say a lot if they do.

But I get why it would make sense. But I wouldn't think it's a valid enough indicator. But if it's in line with your other pointers, I'd be more confident in that prediction.

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posted November 06, 2018 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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