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Topic: Neptune - potential planet of TRUTH
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Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 868 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 28, 2018 05:25 AM
We all know other thoughts on Neptune, one pertaining to deceit. There is, of course, Jupiter, who also deals in truth. But, the way Jupiter deals with truth is another thing ~ Here's just about Neptune and Pisces. I wanted to share some insights I've had, and would like to know of your own experiences, especially if you're rather Neptunian or even Piscean. I'll paint a picture for you to get my idea across. Imagine you live in a world where many things are holographic. You meet a person who is a hologram, but you do not know this person is a hologram. This person looks like any other human. This person smiles, laughs, tells jokes, and even straight up tells you "I am a real person!" You believe them for the longest time. Then, one day, something happens. You put your hands through the holographic person, and realize, they were never corporeal! All this energy, time, love you've devoted to this person - only for the Neptunian to realize it was just a hologram! A mirage! False! A dream! What is real now? Is that tree real? That rock? Hologram or real? Am I real? Are you? Who's telling the truth!?! You've got the Neptunian individual who feels shattered, disillusioned, pain. Realizing that this metaphorical situation applies to so much in life. Loving lies, never seeing the truth, lost, confused - grasping at nothing that can hold their hand. If they stay like that, the risk becoming undone completely. Then there is the Neptunian (or Piscean/Pisces heavy), who allows the death of their illuisons to wash over them, but eventually uses that pain to learn to see the truth from lies. And while yes, learning to see lies, everywhere, can be painful, seeing the truth does, and can become all that much more rewarding. But it is sad, because seeing the truth, and seeing the lies, can come at a painful cost - and the more powerful our Neptunian or Piscean traits, the more agony we feel, as literally an energetic "death" of sorts must happen each and every time they use this ability. The lie must be killed for the truth to come out. With this, I think it also tells us about our chart and where Neptune sits - where we deceive, where we ARE deceived, and where we need to find the truth. We are not doomed. I believe the fact that Neptune and Pisces are actually, in some way, so apt at seeing the truth, makes up a lot for why they are known as the "seer" of the zodiac - they are known for their psychic abilities, and it is because they walk in the fog of lies, that they are best able to see the fog of lies, and therefore, the truth, if they learn to do that with the energy granted to them!
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Lalafortunaea Knowflake Posts: 868 From: Registered: Jul 2017
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posted October 28, 2018 05:27 AM
Erm I meant to post this in Astrology2, not here in interpersonal LOLCan someone move it please? xD Thanks! IP: Logged |
sassaqua Knowflake Posts: 635 From: Oz Registered: May 2011
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posted October 28, 2018 05:55 AM
I agree!Nice post! IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 216 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 28, 2018 06:19 AM
Your writing really resonates with me and what I’m dealing with lately. Also Saturn transits our Neptune.. all illusions we’ve had so far are getting a major reality check. My Sun and Mercury are in Pisces. My whole chart is dominated by water. Beside that, Neptune does not do much in my chart, aside from sextile my Asc. It’s just as you’ve written, I think a Piscean personality with a well placed Neptune deals differently with disillusionment, than someone who’s more set in their ways. We feel the pain, but we’re also able to transcend it. I can see it in myself quite well.. although my chart is very Pluto-heavy, (Scorpio Asc conj Pluto, Asc trine Sun, Moon in 8th house) I’m not nearly as vengeful, as I should be! I don’t hold grudges for long. I feel the pain of deceit very intensely, but I’m also able to let go after a while. If I couldn’t, I’d completely go under, I think! So in this sense Neptune and my Piscean core hold me together and give me peace. Because in the end, we always remain somehow connected to the bigger picture and know, that most of the things that happen to us, don’t really matter. It’s just energy, changing it’s form and purpose. So yes Neptune awakens us to the truth, I feel, if it’s well incorporated. If not, we remain in denial.
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LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 2589 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted October 28, 2018 06:27 AM
Ana I think thats your Gemini moon coming into play lol Gemini is much too fickle and changeable to truly hold a grudge for long. You’re on to the next thing 😊 Gemini gives more “shallow” or surface level emotions as well, and the ability to detach and rationalize. So I don’t think you’d ever “go completely under”, that’s more of a water moon thing when you drown in your emotions etc. You have mercury influence on your moon, so you can think/work through them. Like you mentioned with your strong water influenced chart, this Gemini moon is a blessing for you 👍 IP: Logged |
ana_bee Knowflake Posts: 216 From: Registered: Aug 2013
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posted October 28, 2018 07:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by LunaIscariot: Ana I think thats your Gemini moon coming into play lol Gemini is much too fickle and changeable to truly hold a grudge for long. You’re on to the next thing 😊 Gemini gives more “shallow” or surface level emotions as well, and the ability to detach and rationalize. So I don’t think you’d ever “go completely under”, that’s more of a water moon thing when you drown in your emotions etc. You have mercury influence on your moon, so you can think/work through them. Like you mentioned with your strong water influenced chart, this Gemini moon is a blessing for you 👍
LOL 😊yes maybe Unfortunately I do have a changeable and shallow side. My initial reaction to „trauma“ or bad news is always detachment.. only when it sinks in, I get emotional, but that doesn’t last long either. It comes in waves, until I pick it all apart. I always hated that.. because it sometimes makes me feel like someone with less substance.. But it can also feel like a blessing to be able to do that.
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Keela Dal Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted November 01, 2018 10:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lalafortunaea:
Imagine you live in a world where many things are holographic. You meet a person who is a hologram, but you do not know this person is a hologram. This person looks like any other human. This person smiles, laughs, tells jokes, and even straight up tells you "I am a real person!" You believe them for the longest time. Then, one day, something happens. You put your hands through the holographic person, and realize, they were never corporeal! All this energy, time, love you've devoted to this person - only for the Neptunian to realize it was just a hologram! A mirage! False! A dream!What is real now? Is that tree real? That rock? Hologram or real? Am I real? Are you? Who's telling the truth!?! With this, I think it also tells us about our chart and where Neptune sits - where we deceive, where we ARE deceived, and where we need to find the truth. We are not doomed.
Moon in 8H Pisces with a Sagittarian 5H Neptune, 5th cusp Scorpio. Draconic ASC 1 conj Neptune. Apparently I, according to some people at least if not own experience or opinion, put more "effort" on little things even in friendships than most people. Only to then at some stage find that the other people as if never care even remotely (as it seems to you) the way you thought happened in relationships of mutual sorts. Which can of course be a symptom of your "5 ways of loving" differing as well, but still. So yes, to whatever extent I fully get that "Other people seem to be mostly flakes or only very rarely put anything _real_ in play" notion. I may hold back for my own reasons on some things otherwise, but tend to be genuine in my interactions. Regardless of anything above, this is mostly meant to be a general thumbs up (& a possible reminder for someone to maybe move this if not done otherwise). IP: Logged |
comdoc Knowflake Posts: 863 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015
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posted November 01, 2018 10:57 AM
Lalafortunaea, great insights. Neptune, as an outer planet, helps connect us to the Universe beyond. Pisces, as the final Sign in the Zodiac, incorporates everything that has gone before. So it refines--as well as dissolves--in the end. Esther Hicks (Law of Attraction), a famous Pisces, comes to mind. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 2402 From: Portland, OR Registered: May 2009
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posted November 01, 2018 08:59 PM
You're analogy Lalafortunaea really is accurate of the Piscean/Neptunian fog being lifted. I go through this the most in relationships. At first its all rose colored glasses and I'm blind of imperfections but once the fog is lifted and reality comes full force, its hard to handle. For example my boyfriend suffers from depression and I apparently did not notice that her suffered from this at first and once it hit, like a ton of bricks, I felt deceived because the person I thought I was in love with is actually very sad and is very critical of themselves. Now I'm trying hard to be a supportive partner but sometimes I'd rather go back in the fog and not face reality... I have Pisces Moon in the 3rd house and Neptune in the 1st House. IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 103343 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted November 06, 2018 11:27 PM
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Randall Webmaster Posts: 103343 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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