posted November 07, 2018 02:24 AM            

Well, I personally agree that aspects between outer planets, just like their sign, are less almost not at all important when it comes to someone's chart.

So I think the same for synastry. Will give an example. Few days ago I asked one astrologer synastry question. He said how we have some harmonious, nice aspects like Sun trine Venus, Moon in same element, Venus trine Mars, bla bla.. but also we have that famous Uran conjunct Saturn aspect and it will not be felt at the beginning but it's bad aspect and we two if stay in serious relationship will have bad experience, some of us two will feel inferior and in his opinion it will be him.

Same astrologer, when read someone's chart, always say how we have to work on ourselves and it depends on us if we gonna be successful in something or not, like we do have potential but can't just wait for something to happen, we have to make it happen. Yes I agree about that completely, we have our free will and we decide how we use our chances.

So, he contradicts himself here. How's that, that we can work on our chart but when it comes to synastry we can not? He doesn't pay attention to aspects between outer planets in chart but does in synastry.

Uranus of people born between 1998 and 2000 will conjunct my Saturn. It's just not possible that I will not be compatible with all of them cause of this aspect, it's stupid.

Then some other astrologer said we have that opposition of Venus and Saturn and it's bad aspects. Well so what, square is much worse, opposition is between harmonious elements but opposite signs, and if we do have free will and can work on us, so we can work in relationship, why then can't we make an balance out of this opposition?

And also we have double whammy Venus sextile Jupiter. Very nice aspect if you ask me, why then these two aspects couldn't help a bit in balancing and soften this opposition.

Also one more example. That astrologer also said how his Saturn is in my 7th house and square my Saturn, it's bad. Yes, it can be difficult position, but Saturn in 7th also can give maturity. Anyway, if all of them pay attention to aspects between outer planets, square between our Saturns is the only hard aspect his Saturn is making. His Saturn trine my Sun, sextile my Moon and trine Uranus and Neptune (outer planets). Well then, it doesn't work right, they only pay attention to hard ones but harmonious, f..k it. And after all, why trine of Saturn and Uranus could not help in conjunction of same planets if it's important? Not to say that I have Venus in Aquarius, so maybe can handle with Uranus energy? He's Gemini, he can understand it.

Really, I more and more find astrologers nowadays real charlatans, they just care for money and read charts mechanically.

posted December 05, 2018 08:24 AM            

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Originally posted by LoveAstrally:
Yes outer planets are important in synastry and relationship analysis. When one's personal planet aspects another's outer planets it indicates karmic connection and needs to be considered in regards to the rest of the chart(s). Does this answer your question?

I do some astrology reports locally, and I don't use comp output or processing. It does take a bit longer. Many mainstream sites do use comp analysis and that's why I stay away from them (plus its unlikely they'd answer my specific query). I think if you search for the right astrologer and maybe reach out to them before the report, you will have better luck.

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No, it doesn't. I said my opinion on outer planet's aspects above. You can't have karmic connection with all the people born in period when their outer planet touches your outer planet.

Many mainstream sites do use comp analysis and that's why I stay away from them (plus its unlikely they'd answer my specific query).I think if you search for the right astrologer and maybe reach out to them before the report, you will have better luck.

I don't see above I mentioned computer report at all, so I have no idea what you're talking about. I know how computer reports looks like and I don't use it.

I'm talking here about astrologers it's clear, I'm talking about charlatans who you just pay money to for nothing. I asked about people's experiences with paid "professional" astrologers, as my experiences are bad.

posted December 05, 2018 10:06 AM            

I get what you mean regarding outer planets aspecting outer planets in synastry. It doesn't make sense...

posted December 05, 2018 05:19 PM            

For outer planet connections, because they are outer planet and not personal inner planets, a person has less control over them. They impact you and your inner planets. And they tend to influence generationally, and drive at a generational force.

This is the definition of "karma", that it is a force that is beyond free will. And a force that moves and drives collectively. You, as an individual, are merely a raft carried along in the current of this collective wave with little to no influence over the direction to which that wave is traveling.

When you see these outer planet aspects in a natal chart or synastry, it is simply that this generational force is part of your natality, or interaction. Where it hits the inner planets in a natal, is where it can be seen how that energy is filtered into the personal realm of the chart owner. Where it hits the personal planets in synastry, it can be seen how it is filtered in the relationship.

If you have an aspect between personal and outer in your natal, and it is repeated in the synastry, it is simply that yet again, here it is through another person, and another interaction, that this "karmic", generational influence is playing out in your personal life. The person is bringing that outer force to you.

Who feels what? They both do. But in quite vastly different ways. And also for different reasons due to life conditioning and adaption. For example: the person who always gets that outer planet aspecting their inner planet from their peers will have, to some degree, adapted to it over their life span. For the outer, it will be a new experience that will be considerably more "lit".