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myapie
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posted November 13, 2018 07:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for myapie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello,
so i was writing a couple of threads here before about the same issue but now some things have changed and i would like to ask you for an advice.
As you may remember I am 28 and last year my friends asked me to join the group of architecture students and architects and plan organising a national architecture workshop october 2018.
The problem for me is that i am very goal oriented and fast. When I do something i do it fast and its my consequences of the result. The problem is that in the past i was involved many times in several addictional projects, i was pushing forward myself didnt think of the others and ect ( i was doing it because in the past i was trolled by best friends and i learnt how to work only for myself selfishly).
SO that time we needed to create a group and work in a group. I agreed. Because this organisation is very popular among architects in Poland I decided to take part in it as a factor to profit in my future career. Because of my past experiencein different fields i wanted to put my past into the project as connections,as institutions as ideas. My ideasand proposals met blockage, a big blockage because my new friends with a big ego didnt think and didnt want to think that someone could have been better than them.
There was/ is a woman who was born the same day as me ( i was born 21.03.1990) but 2 years younger - 21.03.1992. And its the main problem. We are both aries and she didnt want me to lead as she wanted to control me and others. She was so determined to control everyone all last year and everyones actions that she was doing blackand shadow job. SHe was signing her name as CEO on the papers that WE DIDNT SEE. She was not telling other people about ideas about things- she was doing everything on her own for herself only communicating woth ONE PERSON- one other woman.
I am very suspicious person and i actually saw every 'crime' before it was done. I was telling it- it frustrated her very much that i was able to see her actions before she did something. I wanted only to do it to clear and justify myself. If she wanted us to work in a group as a TEAM I LOST MY SELFISH STREAK and i saw that SHE became selfish and wanted to be better because of my actions and my connections.

Its very bad. And i knew that from the beginning so i secured myself. And she didnt like it. Finally during the workshop and before and a bit after she was playing the victim. The 'most tired one', the most stressed one that NEEDED TO DRINK DURING THE WORK , SHE NEEDED TO PARTY AND GET DRUNK when WE were wroking and taking care if workshop was done well.
She didnt understand what we/i was saying to her about this issue.
It was not holidays for her. Of course she was playing nice and victimised before the main workshop group and pfoessors.


We were selected before for groups to take care of different stuff. I was taking care of sponsors and institutions for example, other people were taking care of locations and money scolarships from government. She was taking care of professors and tutors.

Additionally she was putting her nose in every aspect of our work within our group before. Everything needed to be discussed with her before as well. BUT when she invited professors and tutors SHE DIDNT EVEN INTRODUCE THEM TO US ( as we are organisers as well and its better if we know tutors of OUR WORKSHOP LOL!!!).


She didnt understand that it was a problem to me. She didnt understand and was surprised that people were doing some werid fuss and drama about situations she was doing.


My last word is that as Aries we didnt get along very well and actually she was very manipulative.


I am putting our synastry chart and would like to ask you how can i prevent myself from her behaviour in the future? I felt a bit missunderstood as some other friends were on her side and told me i was aggresive and making unpleasant drama.
BECAUSE SHE IS VERY GOOD ORGANISER AND IT HER JOB TO TAKE CARE.

Yes i was also an organiser as well as 3 other people. and i didnt get drunk and party with tutors - i worked because for me it was fair and it was my duty.

Maybe i took it too emotional what do you think?
I did it because it could open some new paths for my architectural career in the future.


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HieronymusTush
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posted November 13, 2018 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by myapie:
Hello,

Maybe i took it too emotional what do you think?
I did it because it could open some new paths for my architectural career in the future.



I can't see the charts, I'll be able to see them if you upload them to tinypic. However, it sounds like this person evoked an unusually strong reaction in you because she reminds you of you. You mention you 'saw her steps ahead before she took them'. We are only able to foresee what is familiar to us.

I'm a Libra sun. I am often repelled by a very particular milquetoast, amiable approach that appears to me as characteristically Libra when I encounter it. Libra people remind me of where I feel I fail the most, in terms of tenacity and courage. In short, they remind me of me, and I am able to see their faults uncomfortably clearly.

I advise you to take stock of her behaviour and carefully think where you may have behaved the same. Resist the urge to make a foil out of this person. It is obvious from the way you butted head that your conduct mirrors each other in some manner. Single-mindedness and fiery dedication are what makes Aries so charismatic and successful. However, the ability to accept fault and laugh in the face of tragedy are also uniquely Aries qualities. I find Aries suns are remarkably able to laugh at themselves once the storm calms down. Try to channel the amiable, cheery Aries attitude, rather than the Aries tornadoing beautiful possibilities due to panic and self-doubt. The CEO title thing is a sure sign that your colleague is acting out of self-doubt as well. A true, earned title is never a secret As long as you are honest in your work and honest to yourself, you would never need to live in fear of people finding out about a few made up storylines. Be rest assured that a rookie, dishonest move like that will lose the respect of any higher-up. Your future career will be shaped by small steps of real hard work and honesty. Take the feedback about your aggressive behaviour from your peers very seriously. They most probably have a point. Adjust your behaviour and channel your desire to excel to the work and getting along, rather than to the social energies surrounding you.

In any case, I believe learning to cooperate is absolutely vital in any area of life, but it is all the more essential for professional or creative output. Greatness is half hard work, half knowing full well when to shelf the ego and when to take it out for a dusting. This is especially the case for an architect. You guys are the doctors of the art world. Keeping your **** cool is an absolute must.

I sincerely hope you both use your beautiful Aries energy in equally sharing responsibilities and co-CEO'ing. Women have so much to battle, we really do not need to be taking each other down. Best of luck to you. I am sure you will smile at these experiences a few years later.

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posted November 18, 2018 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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myapie
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posted November 19, 2018 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for myapie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello, thank you for such a long replay. for now i dont have any contact with this person as she doesnt see her mistakes. and is blinded by her super attidute.

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