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saadsarah8
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posted November 14, 2018 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saadsarah8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm the one on the inside. Lots of manipulation & passive-aggression on his side.

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LunaIscariot
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posted November 14, 2018 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can you post the synasty and composite from Astro.com?
With the table underneath? Showing the planets and degrees etc.

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posted November 14, 2018 07:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassaqua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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saadsarah8
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posted November 14, 2018 01:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saadsarah8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Can you post the synasty and composite from Astro.com?
With the table underneath? Showing the planets and degrees etc.

Here's the synastry chart,, I'll post the composite shortly

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saadsarah8
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posted November 14, 2018 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saadsarah8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Composite.

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LunaIscariot
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posted November 14, 2018 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Are both birthtime accurate?

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saadsarah8
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posted November 14, 2018 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saadsarah8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Are both birthtime accurate?


Mine (1994) yes, his is around that time but not certain.

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LunaIscariot
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posted November 14, 2018 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeesh, well the first thing I noticed in the synasty is that big grand cross with all the malefic planets involved.... both of your Saturn’s involved, mars and Pluto, makes sense why you said manipulation (pluto) and with mars this can show agression/abuse or conflict and Saturn can be cold, controlling and critical.
These planets are hitting your Venus and his moon/mercury, these are soft planets so it doesn’t feel too nice to have these harsher ones like this. It’s not for everyone.
These types of intense closed patterns are very binding and magnetic at first, lots of dynamic and intense energy with all the squares and especially with mars and Pluto involved these are sexual planets. But they are hard aspects after all, and still show a basic lack of harmony/compatibility. Squares are stress/tension aspects, the planets involved are butting heads and at cross purposes. So this easily leads to rubbing each other the wrong way or conflicts etc.
The nice thing though, is that you have moon/mercury conjunct Venus. This adds some tenderness and sweetness between you guys. You’re probably the one who is extra sweet or forgiving towards him as the Venus person. Also, his Venus conjunct your ASC. Another great harmonious and pleasant connection. Shows him being very attracted to you as well. Sun conjunct ASC (he feels good in your presence, you give him an ego and energy boost) and mercury conjunct Jupiter, combined with the venus conjunct mercury, you guys probably have decent communication, although again his mercury is opposite your Saturn and square your mars... but I think with the other nice aspects it helps offset this a bit. It shouldn’t be too horrible.
Your moon in his 7th is fantastic, one of the best synasty aspects/overlays to have. The fact it’s your ASC ruler as well makes it even more powerfu, it's conjunct his Uranus 7th house ruler. .
I would say that yes, this guy will be very attached and drawn to you. You’re his type. If he says he loves you I think he’s telling the truth.

I think the main problem is his own chart. His moon/Mercury is in a t-square with his own Pluto and Saturn. This is going to make him an interesting character regardless of who he’s with, he is naturally quite manipulate and controlling, passive-aggressive to begin with. This has notning to do with you. Although with you introducing your own mars and Saturn into his chart, this is going to exacerbate these issues in him. But your Venus is there too, so it’s not all bad. Your Venus does act as a balm to him I’m sure, and t-squares love the completion and stability of someone putting that last planet there for them which you do.
I think he loves you to the best of his ability, in the only way he knows how if that makes sense. Not saying you should tolerate any abuse or stay with him if you’re truly unhappy though.


Now for the composite, you have the love stellium on the first house! This is wonderful. But it’s opposed Uranus, which can show hot and cold feelings, instability in the relationship. Or an on and off relationship, where you never know where you stand or what to expect for the other person.
Moon is conjunct Pluto, this can produce intense feelings and lots of bonding and intimacy/closeness, but also manipulation or obsession/co-dependency, jealousy of controlling behaviours as the dark side of Pluto.
The main issue im seeing in the composite if the birthtimes are right though, is Saturn square the ASC/DSC axis exact. This is a TERRIBLE aspect. I almost always see it in unhealthy, toxic, abusive or unhappy relationships. I’ve also experienced it myself. It’s really tough. But the composite is not that bad overall, you have some other strong positive factors that might help offset that dreaded Saturn square.

Good luck ❤️


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saadsarah8
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posted November 15, 2018 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for saadsarah8     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Yeesh, well the first thing I noticed in the synasty is that big grand cross with all the malefic planets involved.... both of your Saturn’s involved, mars and Pluto, makes sense why you said manipulation (pluto) and with mars this can show agression/abuse or conflict and Saturn can be cold, controlling and critical.
These planets are hitting your Venus and his moon/mercury, these are soft planets so it doesn’t feel too nice to have these harsher ones like this. It’s not for everyone.
These types of intense closed patterns are very binding and magnetic at first, lots of dynamic and intense energy with all the squares and especially with mars and Pluto involved these are sexual planets. But they are hard aspects after all, and still show a basic lack of harmony/compatibility. Squares are stress/tension aspects, the planets involved are butting heads and at cross purposes. So this easily leads to rubbing each other the wrong way or conflicts etc.
The nice thing though, is that you have moon/mercury conjunct Venus. This adds some tenderness and sweetness between you guys. You’re probably the one who is extra sweet or forgiving towards him as the Venus person. Also, his Venus conjunct your ASC. Another great harmonious and pleasant connection. Shows him being very attracted to you as well. Sun conjunct ASC (he feels good in your presence, you give him an ego and energy boost) and mercury conjunct Jupiter, combined with the venus conjunct mercury, you guys probably have decent communication, although again his mercury is opposite your Saturn and square your mars... but I think with the other nice aspects it helps offset this a bit. It shouldn’t be too horrible.
Your moon in his 7th is fantastic, one of the best synasty aspects/overlays to have. The fact it’s your ASC ruler as well makes it even more powerfu, it's conjunct his Uranus 7th house ruler. .
I would say that yes, this guy will be very attached and drawn to you. You’re his type. If he says he loves you I think he’s telling the truth.

I think the main problem is his own chart. His moon/Mercury is in a t-square with his own Pluto and Saturn. This is going to make him an interesting character regardless of who he’s with, he is naturally quite manipulate and controlling, passive-aggressive to begin with. This has notning to do with you. Although with you introducing your own mars and Saturn into his chart, this is going to exacerbate these issues in him. But your Venus is there too, so it’s not all bad. Your Venus does act as a balm to him I’m sure, and t-squares love the completion and stability of someone putting that last planet there for them which you do.
I think he loves you to the best of his ability, in the only way he knows how if that makes sense. Not saying you should tolerate any abuse or stay with him if you’re truly unhappy though.


Now for the composite, you have the love stellium on the first house! This is wonderful. But it’s opposed Uranus, which can show hot and cold feelings, instability in the relationship. Or an on and off relationship, where you never know where you stand or what to expect for the other person.
Moon is conjunct Pluto, this can produce intense feelings and lots of bonding and intimacy/closeness, but also manipulation or obsession/co-dependency, jealousy of controlling behaviours as the dark side of Pluto.
The main issue im seeing in the composite if the birthtimes are right though, is Saturn square the ASC/DSC axis exact. This is a TERRIBLE aspect. I almost always see it in unhealthy, toxic, abusive or unhappy relationships. I’ve also experienced it myself. It’s really tough. But the composite is not that bad overall, you have some other strong positive factors that might help offset that dreaded Saturn square.

Good luck ❤️


Wow thank you so much for the thorough response. Hope things work out in the end <3
I'll keep what you said in mind.

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LaceyLeigh
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posted November 15, 2018 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He’s not even 18, he doesn’t know what he wants.

Edit: I absolutely hate Mercury/Mars square in synastry. Nothing but pain on all sides.

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Randall
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posted November 19, 2018 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump!

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Lalafortunaea
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posted November 20, 2018 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lalafortunaea     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua can be passive aggressive. The moon conj dsc can bring this out. 8th house also draws out secrets.

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