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Hikaru29
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posted November 19, 2018 03:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm posting the charts of this couple who's going through a separation. Husband cheated on wife twice (first time 8yrs ago & 2nd time last yr) and wanted a divorce but she wanted to rework the marriage. She feels that he's just lost and she blamed herself for neglecting him, but he insisted that they've lost the "spark". He has moved out but still meets her and their child once a week. Is there still a chance?

SYNASTRY (guy in red). ToBs almost exact as I calculated based on their known Asc signs.

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posted November 20, 2018 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted November 25, 2018 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 06, 2018 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 06, 2018 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
relationships with sun/venus/mercury in the composite can get boring too fast,

there was a thread on it a while ago

I can't tell for sure if they will get a divorce though

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posted December 06, 2018 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wonder what happen to Cancer Mars stereotype about being loyal..

My husband (prob soon to be an ex) has Mars in Cancer. He cheated on his longtime ex with me and he cheated on me with her. He repeated the same pattern after his ex gave him a death silent treatment and a revenge. Usually always two woman at the same time. After we get married and has a child, he tries his best showing me he won't repeat it again, but trust has been crushed.

His composite with his ex: tight sun conjunct venus and a lot of grand trine.

His composite with me: wide sun conjunct venus

Then, there is this Cancer Mars man who I have known for almost 10 years. He is married and still want to date me. He tried to kiss me once 5 years ago and he was still trying until I decided to disappear. Although I keep my distance and have never met him for two years, he still remembers me and messages me.

I don't check how's our composite.

In your case, I don't know if they will divorce, but venus square venus is quite hard as the difference is so obvious. I have venus square venus too with my (soon to be ex) husband.

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posted December 06, 2018 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
I wonder what happen to Cancer Mars stereotype about being loyal..

My husband (prob soon to be an ex) has Mars in Cancer. He cheated on his longtime ex with me and he cheated on me with her. He repeated the same pattern after his ex gave him a death silent treatment and a revenge. Usually always two woman at the same time. After we get married and has a child, he tries his best showing me he won't repeat it again, but trust has been crushed.

His composite with his ex: tight sun conjunct venus and a lot of grand trine.

His composite with me: wide sun conjunct venus

Then, there is this Cancer Mars man who I have known for almost 10 years. He is married and still want to date me. He tried to kiss me once 5 years ago and he was still trying until I decided to disappear. Although I keep my distance and have never met him for two years, he still remembers me and messages me.

I don't check how's our composite.

In your case, I don't know if they will divorce, but venus square venus is quite hard as the difference is so obvious. I have venus square venus too with my (soon to be ex) husband.


Did you check his natal chart? I agree Cancer Mars people are not necessarily faithful. In fact, any sign can cheat. Can you tell me about your exp with Venus square Venus?

I was hoping maybe their progressed composite will show something.

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posted December 06, 2018 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
relationships with sun/venus/mercury in the composite can get boring too fast,

there was a thread on it a while ago

I can't tell for sure if they will get a divorce though


I think it depends on what else you have in your chart. Some pluto can add intensity.. Some saturn can give 2 people a purpose...Some uranus can bring excitement...

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posted December 06, 2018 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
relationships with sun/venus/mercury in the composite can get boring too fast,

there was a thread on it a while ago


So now Im being told a love stellium can be boring!? I though this was one of the best things to see in a composite!? Astrology is so confusing!!?

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posted December 06, 2018 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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So now Im being told a love stellium can be boring!? I though this was one of the best things to see in a composite!? Astrology is so confusing!!?


I think it depends on what people are looking for in love. Maybe to some being comfortable and mentally in tuned with each other is boring. Haha..

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posted December 07, 2018 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hearttreasure     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Did you check his natal chart? I agree Cancer Mars people are not necessarily faithful. In fact, any sign can cheat. Can you tell me about your exp with Venus square Venus?

I was hoping maybe their progressed composite will show something.


Yes, I check the natal chart too. Well, both have venus in air sign, my husband is Gemini venus and the other one is Libra venus.

Venus square venus:
"Tastes and values differ between the two of you, and this can become more and more obvious as time passes. Your “styles” with regards to expressing love and affection are dissimilar in some very important ways. Your interests, values, your socializing style, the clothes you wear, the way you decorate, and the ways you handle money are markedly different. This can mean decision-making as a couple can be lengthy and complicated. You don’t always share the same pleasures, and you don’t know how to instinctively please one another, so it takes time to learn about and appreciate one another’s style of expressing love. Your social backgrounds may be different, or your needs for a social life differ greatly, and this interferes with romance. Arguments over basic tastes and the ways you handle money could easily surface."

That is so true in my experience.

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posted December 07, 2018 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Yes, I check the natal chart too. Well, both have venus in air sign, my husband is Gemini venus and the other one is Libra venus.

Venus square venus:
"Tastes and values differ between the two of you, and this can become more and more obvious as time passes. Your “styles” with regards to expressing love and affection are dissimilar in some very important ways. Your interests, values, your socializing style, the clothes you wear, the way you decorate, and the ways you handle money are markedly different. This can mean decision-making as a couple can be lengthy and complicated. You don’t always share the same pleasures, and you don’t know how to instinctively please one another, so it takes time to learn about and appreciate one another’s style of expressing love. Your social backgrounds may be different, or your needs for a social life differ greatly, and this interferes with romance. Arguments over basic tastes and the ways you handle money could easily surface."

That is so true in my experience.


Now I realised I've Venus square Venus with my mom. We often clash over choice of clothes/shoes and food... We can never agree and we will argue over these things becos she'll force me to eat certain food and to wear certain clothes (when I was young). A friend of mine also has Venus square Venus with me and it's difficult when we go shopping and she tries to ask me what I think of a particular dress/shoes etc. I never like any of the things she chooses and I sound like a wet blanket.

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posted December 07, 2018 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Love stellium is only boring if there is nothing activating it and keeping it alive I suppose. I don't think the person who said its boring should have said that in that particular way because it is not true.

Granted, I have never heard many stories of love stelliums getting boring. If it is, it is probably because the synastry was boring and/or harsh and didn't support it well enough. Almost all the stories of love stelliums I've heard are of couples who identify as close friends first and then lovers. Many committed couples who are close friends have the love stellium, though of course there are exceptions.

Also we cannot really tell you if they will divorce. We can only make assumptions, but there is no way we would know for certain if they would divorce anytime soon just by looking through their charts. Though I can say that there are some rough transits about to hit their chart in the coming years so maybe divorce is on the table? I don't know.

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posted December 08, 2018 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by capricorncheriscty:
Love stellium is only boring if there is nothing activating it and keeping it alive I suppose. I don't think the person who said its boring should have said that in that particular way because it is not true.

Granted, I have never heard many stories of love stelliums getting boring. If it is, it is probably because the synastry was boring and/or harsh and didn't support it well enough. Almost all the stories of love stelliums I've heard are of couples who identify as close friends first and then lovers. Many committed couples who are close friends have the love stellium, though of course there are exceptions.

Also we cannot really tell you if they will divorce. We can only make assumptions, but there is no way we would know for certain if they would divorce anytime soon just by looking through their charts. Though I can say that there are some rough transits about to hit their chart in the coming years so maybe divorce is on the table? I don't know.


I was hoping the progressed composite will reveal something with transits.

Agree with you on the love stellium.

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posted December 08, 2018 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The progressed composite also has a lot of harsh aspects happening in the coming years so its possible to see divorce happen but again, I can't really say something like that certainly. Hope it helps.

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posted December 12, 2018 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted December 14, 2018 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by hearttreasure:
Yes, I check the natal chart too. Well, both have venus in air sign, my husband is Gemini venus and the other one is Libra venus.

Venus square venus:
"Tastes and values differ between the two of you, and this can become more and more obvious as time passes. Your “styles” with regards to expressing love and affection are dissimilar in some very important ways. Your interests, values, your socializing style, the clothes you wear, the way you decorate, and the ways you handle money are markedly different. This can mean decision-making as a couple can be lengthy and complicated. You don’t always share the same pleasures, and you don’t know how to instinctively please one another, so it takes time to learn about and appreciate one another’s style of expressing love. Your social backgrounds may be different, or your needs for a social life differ greatly, and this interferes with romance. Arguments over basic tastes and the ways you handle money could easily surface."

That is so true in my experience.


But can't two people have incompatible Venus signs and there still be a trine or sextile? I have this with someone my Venus is in Pisces and their Venus is in Gemini but in synastry there is sextile. And we like the same things.

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posted December 14, 2018 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
post a regular midpoint composite.i haven't found progressed composite as affective without he original composite considered also
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posted December 15, 2018 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
post a regular midpoint composite.i haven't found progressed composite as affective without he original composite considered also
todd


It's the 2nd chart above - a midpoint composite.

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posted December 15, 2018 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi Hikaru29

i think they will divorce. the mars/neptune midpoint is conjunct Neptune, a sign of him being a player. likely he already is seeing someone else.
but it may be drawn out. look to to sept 2019 when the node squares pluto and the Saturn/moon midpoint.

with pluto opposed to pysche, i think that having a child turned him off. pluto opposed to pysche can show kinky sexual activities which the birth of a child may have dampened.
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posted December 15, 2018 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Now I realised I've Venus square Venus with my mom. We often clash over choice of clothes/shoes and food... We can never agree and we will argue over these things becos she'll force me to eat certain food and to wear certain clothes (when I was young). A friend of mine also has Venus square Venus with me and it's difficult when we go shopping and she tries to ask me what I think of a particular dress/shoes etc. I never like any of the things she chooses and I sound like a wet blanket.

I didn't know Venus/Venus in synastry was so important. I don't see a lot about this aspect on here or really talked about on other sites. I have the sextile with someone and it seems as though we like the same things. This is the first time I've ever had this aspect with anyone. I think I'm the most compatible with this person. More so than my other friends which I suppose would make sense.

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posted December 16, 2018 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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hi Hikaru29

i think they will divorce. the mars/neptune midpoint is conjunct Neptune, a sign of him being a player. likely he already is seeing someone else.
but it may be drawn out. look to to sept 2019 when the node squares pluto and the Saturn/moon midpoint.

with pluto opposed to pysche, i think that having a child turned him off. pluto opposed to pysche can show kinky sexual activities which the birth of a child may have dampened.
todd


Really? I feel sad for my friend... He was not a player before. He really loved my friend so his affairs shocked her, but you're right that the arrival of their child put a damper on their marriage. He still shows a lot of concern for them though. Anyway, I will keep what you said in mind and update if I can.

Can I trouble you to also look at these 2 composites - their dynamics, love and longevity? Will they break up? They both have YOD in their charts, is that bad? Does love stellium help much?

Thanks, Todd!

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posted December 16, 2018 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
I didn't know Venus/Venus in synastry was so important. I don't see a lot about this aspect on here or really talked about on other sites. I have the sextile with someone and it seems as though we like the same things. This is the first time I've ever had this aspect with anyone. I think I'm the most compatible with this person. More so than my other friends which I suppose would make sense.

Others always talk about Venus/Mars but I've always paid attention to Venus/Venus. I've experienced Venus/Mars but it didn't work magic like what it did for others. Incidentally we have incompatible Venuses. He always complained that I don't dress up for him but I would doll up when I go out with friends. I don't know why I did that o_O. With 2 other bfs I've Venus sextile Venus, I'd doll up for them every time. I wanna look good for them.

With my friend whose Venus square mine, we don't even like spending money on the same things - she'll splurge on all the cosmetics and I'll splurge on all the skincare - which doesn't matter if you think about it but I'll criticise her for not taking care of her skin (lol) and of course the choices she makes. With my mom she never liked anything I bought and she'll make it known. It's quite irritating actually and can cause ill feelings. Venus-Venus harsh aspects make one critical of the other person's tastes and the way they use their $, it seems.

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posted December 16, 2018 08:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Others always talk about Venus/Mars but I've always paid attention to Venus/Venus. I've experienced Venus/Mars but it didn't work magic like what it did for others. Incidentally we have incompatible Venuses. He always complained that I don't dress up for him but I would doll up when I go out with friends. I don't know why I did that o_O. With 2 other bfs I've Venus sextile Venus, I'd doll up for them every time. I wanna look good for them.

With my friend whose Venus square mine, we don't even like spending money on the same things - she'll splurge on all the cosmetics and I'll splurge on all the skincare - which doesn't matter if you think about it but I'll criticise her for not taking care of her skin (lol) and of course the choices she makes. With my mom she never liked anything I bought and she'll make it known. It's quite irritating actually and can cause ill feelings. Venus-Venus harsh aspects make one critical of the other person's tastes and the way they use their $, it seems.


Well with the person I have the sextile with. Our Venus signs are incompatible by sign. But we still have things in common. I guess it's a blend of both signs since it's a sextile. I can understand why the harsh aspects can cause issues. I think it's a conflict between activities and what the two people enjoy. Even their friends and social life are different. I personally like this aspect more so than Venus/Mars. I think it's better in regards to compatibility. I've never had this with anyone so it's really different. It's just a nice feeling to actually have things in common with a friend.

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posted December 16, 2018 11:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Well with the person I have the sextile with. Our Venus signs are incompatible by sign. But we still have things in common. I guess it's a blend of both signs since it's a sextile. I can understand why the harsh aspects can cause issues. I think it's a conflict between activities and what the two people enjoy. Even their friends and social life are different. I personally like this aspect more so than Venus/Mars. I think it's better in regards to compatibility. I've never had this with anyone so it's really different. It's just a nice feeling to actually have things in common with a friend.

Because it's in sextile aspect so you will find harmonious energy.

This aspect is also nice in romantic relationships because we are able to enjoy the same things/food and our values are the same.

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