posted November 22, 2018 04:19 PM            

I figured I would start a separate one as opposed to clogging the other poster's thread. This is my biggest love so far. Granted, the numbers are few. And he loved me, but ultimately chose himself over us. I still love him, but I am done. My Valentine is conjunct his ASC.

Synastry:

This is the composite:

posted November 22, 2018 06:26 PM            

me

posted November 22, 2018 06:47 PM            

I've got the popcorn out

Ok.. on look at your charts now

Edit: Geeez.. your guy's Moon is in just as much trouble! Does it make him super chatty opposite Mercury or man of few words?

posted November 22, 2018 06:57 PM            

I like the angular contacts in your synastry, his Venus conjunct your DSC, your moon conjunct his DSC, his Mars conjunct your ASC and his moon sitting in there too. His moon is also conjunct your Neptune which is your IC ruler, that’s a potent contact. Deep feelings of comfort, familiarity that probably triggered in you and added a lot of attachment/bonding. I love to see 4th house or it’s ruler and moon stuff going on, it’s really powerful for creating real trust and intimacy.
Not to mention that beautiful kite with your moon/sun,his Venus/Pluto/Jupiter/Uranus! And your mars. Wow, having the outer planets like that involved makes it feel otherworldly, and grandtrines themselves already feel amazing just the ease and harmony they create. And his Venus being the missing piece for completing the pattern in your own chart, finishing your natal moon/mars trine and sun/moon opposition, this would have been very satisfying and just felt “right” for you. And of course the fact it’s his venus, which is your DSC ruler planet (energy you are looking for and really like in someone!) being the missing puzzle piece would have made it that much more special and attractive for you. Your mars is also your 5th house ruler!! And it’s conjunct his Pluto and of course a part of that grand trine configuration, so powerfully aspected/stimulated 👍 especially with pluto involved! No wonder you fell so hard for him lol

posted November 22, 2018 07:09 PM            

He liked it exactly as it was, I wanted more. In four years he never met one of my friends, never told anyone about me... our relationship was built almost solely on being together in his home. No dating, no going out. Deep conversations, deep deep bonding. But if I dared to mention the truth of our situation or asked for more (like to go out!), he panicked. The problem was that I actually did love him. And all I wanted was him, all to myself, so going out wasn't all that much for me. Then I woke up and realized a normal relationship was very much something I wanted, so it came to an end.

posted November 22, 2018 07:32 PM            

Here is the Davison

posted November 22, 2018 07:34 PM            

However, it is also getting good aspects to your Mercury. Which, because his Moon has challenged aspects, AND because it's to Mercury, and because that Mercury is also challenged, is a good thing: through you, his Moon get's verbal expression.

But, it will be very sensitive to the currents from the challenged aspects that you have to your Venus and Mars too. And your Mars is square his Moon.

While your Mars is conjunct his Pluto, it's also conjunct his SN. Considering his age (bit older than me), he's likely a bit "been there done that" with those planets he has there in Virgo. Your nodes are going the opposite ways too.. There's nothing on your chart that is on his NN.

His Venus trine your Moon is a nice softness that will make up for the difference in Sun-Sun and Moon-Moon qualities you have together. But also, your Moon-Sun axis is supportive to his NN growth.. even though there is no planet specifically on his NN, he will not feel like you are holding him back too much, with your Mars on his SN.

And also, there is an affinity, because that axis is also supporting your NN poles. He can hitch a ride on the way you have learned to manage use that for your own development. This is really nice. He doesn't have much else at the 24th degree to support his NN. Apart from a foggy Mars and Neptune. I am thinking this maybe the pivotal point of the relationship.

There's a bit of a party going on with your Venus/Mars/Saturn and Chiron: his Venus trine your Mars and his Saturn trine your Venus; Venuses are trine and all pretty noice to again counter other things. That Saturn of his though is also right on your Chiron which can be a bit harsh. Also his Mars is square your Venus. So, this is a bit of a party that will play out I assume. He has nothing on your Chiron.. [edit: sorry, I meant that you have nothing on HIS Chiron].. I hope he doesn't hurt you.

That's enough of the natals.. There's enough I think to keep you both engaged.

posted November 22, 2018 07:42 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
So, your Neptune on his Moon COULD make his challenged Moon very lost.

However, it is also getting good aspects to your Mercury. Which, because his Moon has challenged aspects, AND because it's to Mercury, and because that Mercury is also challenged, is a good thing: through you, his Moon get's verbal expression.

But, it will be very sensitive to the currents from the challenged aspects that you have to your Venus and Mars too. And your Mars is square his Moon.

While your Mars is conjunct his Pluto, it's also conjunct his SN. Considering his age (bit older than me), he's likely a bit "been there done that" with those planets he has there in Virgo. Your nodes are going the opposite ways too.. There's nothing on your chart that is on his NN.

His Venus trine your Moon is a nice softness that will make up for the difference in Sun-Sun and Moon-Moon qualities you have together. But also, your Moon-Sun axis is supportive to his NN growth.. even though there is no planet specifically on his NN, he will not feel like you are holding him back too much, with your Mars on his SN.

And also, there is an affinity, because that axis is also supporting your NN poles. He can hitch a ride on the way you have learned to manage use that for your own development. This is really nice. He doesn't have much else at the 24th degree to support his NN. Apart from a foggy Mars and Neptune. I am thinking this maybe the pivotal point of the relationship.

There's a bit of a party going on with your Venus/Mars/Saturn and Chiron: his Venus trine your Mars and his Saturn trine your Venus; Venuses are trine and all pretty noice to again counter other things. That Saturn of his though is also right on your Chiron which can be a bit harsh. Also his Mars is square your Venus. So, this is a bit of a party that will play out I assume. He has nothing on your Chiron.. I hope he doesn't hurt you.

That's enough of the natals.. There's enough I think to keep you both engaged.

I'll look at the rest later!

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The relationship has ended already, and yes it hurt. But it was phenomenally important to me. He is the first man that truly showed me how it was to be desired. He also inadvertently taught me to not give up what I want and need for my partner. Very right about the Saturn Chiron being rough. It played out. I had the same with my ex-husband, but the relationship was of a very different nature.

posted November 22, 2018 07:45 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Another red flag I noticed in the synastry and probably a big reason why he didn’t want to truly commit or make your relationship more official like you wanted, is that his 7th and 8th ruler is Uranus (so very important in his relationships and attraction profile!) is weakly aspected. It’s only making 2 out of sign aspects, sextile to your sun and a wide trine to your moon.
Granted your moon is conjunct his DSC, but that is out of sign too and very wide. And if his TOB is off by even 10 more minutes later, your moon is out of orb to conjunct it since it’s already wide at 8 degrees.
His most activated house by symbolism matching and ruler aspects, is his 5th house. So this was more of a fun, pleasurable fling energy for him than anything he was interested in long-term/marriage or commitment wise.
Which is unfortunate when this happens
But I don’t doubt he loved you, 5th house is the house of love affairs after all and his Venus was strongly activated with you.

In the composite, the moon is also only making hard aspects, so it’s rather unhappy and unsatisfied. Which could show that there was a lack of emotional understanding between the two of you, which sort of shows in the synasty as well with him being a sag moon in the 5th house, and you being cap moon in the 2nd, fire on fire and earth on earth...

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Again, all true!

I am very grateful for the relationship, because I learned a lot. I am also very grateful to have moved on, and am watching this new one grow. I just have to watch for that Uranus Chiron composite opposition. I have it with my three best friends too. Funny, isn't it?

posted November 22, 2018 07:49 PM            

I was invited. And anyhow, more hands on deck the better.

And you and I make a good team so what not to love

EDIT - StoneMoon, sorry, in my interp I mean that you have nothing on HIS Chiron

posted November 22, 2018 07:58 PM            

Sass, how about the natal of the guy you're digging? Let's look!

posted November 22, 2018 08:06 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
LunaIscariot -

I was invited. And anyhow, more hands on deck the better.

And you and I make a good team so what not to love

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posted November 22, 2018 08:10 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Yeah.. I've been meaning to get around to it. I think I'll be ready in a couple of weeks to do that.

I'm sorry this has ended for you though. I will look more soon.

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posted November 22, 2018 08:16 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I loved your team work here!

Sass, how about the natal of the guy you're digging? Let's look!

Virgo Moon square Neptune sounds challenging. House?

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posted November 23, 2018 02:03 AM            

I have no issue with the square. Only that it is the only aspect.

It means that, really, he lacks a capacity to give emotionally. It's a hungry Moon that lacks perspective, and prone to delusion and paranoia. Neptune is in the 12H too. So.. that's more.

In Virgo it's particularly unsure and lashes out if it suspects it's not getting it's needs met. Virgo needs a lot of reassurance at the best of time. And also, needs tangibility. A square from Neptune is almost frightening.

Because the Moon is so unconscious too, it is pre-verbal, and cannot be defined well into words.