posted November 26, 2018 05:14 AM            

I think they look really good, I’m not seeing too many issues but would love your insight and opinions as well 😊

This is a new love interest, it feels significant. Both TOB accurate 👍

posted November 26, 2018 05:16 AM            

I've also FINALLY put my charts up.

Please go have a look because it's my first chart posting and I'm excited to see what comes of it.

Will you post synastry here too? The charts are hard to see being so large. Synastry chart would help.

posted November 26, 2018 07:08 AM            

And here’s the synasty, I’m inside he’s outside

Since Astro loves to not show everything 🙃 lol;

- We have a “envelope” formation (combination of a mystic rectangle involving my natal mars, Saturn, Pluto and his Mars, with my sun/Uranus and Jupiter sextile at the top sextile and trine that mystic rectangle).
- T-square of my natal mars/Saturn opposition square his mercury/Uranus/DSC and his moon involved in this as well.
- Another t-square involving his Venus and my Saturn/mars.
Also with his ASC, we have a grand cross; his ASC, my mars/Saturn and his mercury/Uranus/DSC.

So some powerful pattern completions/aspects going on here.

We have DW ASC ruler conjunct DSC ruler: my venus conjunct his Saturn, and my mars conjunct his moon. Mars is co-ruler and of my 7th house in Scorpio but still counts lol. It’s the traditional ruler and some still consider it the only ruler.

Lots of 8th house action on both sides, DW sun in 8th, my aqua planets his his 8th, his Venus in my 8th, and his 7th ruler Saturn is HEAVILY activated, its conjunct my venus, trine my moon, conjunct most of my stellium (Neptune,Jupiter,mercury). Tons of symbolism matching; he has mercury/Neptune and Uranus conjunct his DSC, I have an aqua stellium, Neptune and mercury are conjunct my chart ruler Venus and their part of my stelllum, and of course I have a big 10th house stellium itself to match the cap DSC, plus my chart ruler is in Capricorn and also in the 10th house and I have 3 planets in Capricorn alone lol so I fit his DSC to a tee, and also his 8th house since it’s also Capricorn.
His 5th house symbolism and ruler is less involved, it’s in libra and I have mars in libra but it doesn’t fall in his 5th, his 5th ruler Venus is decently aspected to my chart, it’s in a t-square with my Saturn/mars and square my moon and in the 6th house which matches my Virgo moon. But it’s in saggitarius which I find crazy because my ex also had Venus in sag and I don’t think of myself as sag like but I guess I am 🤷‍♀️ 😂
I do have Jupiter conjunct my sun, Venus (chart ruler) and my mercury in the 9th so maybe that’s it lol.

He fits my 7th rulers really well, my Pluto is in sag and his sun and venus are and their in my 8th, so he matches my 8th house too. My other 7th ruler is mars in libra in the 6th; he has moon in libra, and its his ASC ruler too. And my mars is in the 6th; he has sun/Venus in the 6th 👍
My 5th house is Leo, his moon is in the 5th, it’s also his ASC ruler and the dispositor of his sag planets is Jupiter in Leo in my 5th house as well. So pretty strong match all around!
I definitely like him, he’s cute and funny and really charming, but he’s way more into me at least right now haha. Probably his mars in my 1st and it being so aspected; he asked me to be his girlfriend like 10 times the other night 😂.

He doesn’t have any Scorpio or 8th house planets though, so that kinda sucks. I usually need that to become super attracted or fall in love etc.
But his sun/moon midpoint is in Scorpio conjunct Pluto.... so hmm maybe that’s significant.

His NN is also conjunct my big stellium, so I wonder how that’s going to play out or what that really means. I’m not good at interpreting the nodes. Only when they hit the angles

posted November 27, 2018 07:30 AM            

What's going on here? And, lol are you an aqua too? And .. this guy's a sag like my weirdo. You have some similar themes going on too, high Jupiter, Mars, Saturn and Uranus.

I've just had a glance so far and was compelled to comment. I cannot ork out what's going on - those two charts, are two natals? Talk about pattern mirroring! Very similar situation to the guy I'm curious about right now. Edit: Oh, no - they are two composites? What's the deal?

posted November 27, 2018 09:11 AM            

Watch that Pluto squaring Saturn Juno. Especially since the 6th/12th house Taurus/Scorpio axis is intercepted. This will be a blind spot for you. Aries/Mars will help you get in to the 12th, and Libra (yeah Moon!) will help you get in to the 6th. But I think this might be the challenge you will face?

I am not as familiar with interpreting Davison, but I like the reinforcement of the stellium in 8th, and this time Moon is sextile Pluto! Depth! Look again and you have a tight trine between Juno and Saturn. And Juno sits on the Moon Pluto midpoint so this partnership between you really stimulates the depth. Still have that Pluto Saturn square, so keep an eye on it. And that same axis is repeated- 6th 12th intercepted, same signs. This time though Valentine sits on the IC and I think that is very nice.

posted November 27, 2018 10:07 AM            

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LunaIscariot -

What's going on here? And, lol are you an aqua too? And .. this guy's a sag like my weirdo. You have some similar themes going on too, high Jupiter, Mars, Saturn and Uranus.

I've just had a glance so far and was compelled to comment. I cannot ork out what's going on - those two charts, are two natals? Talk about pattern mirroring! Very similar situation to the guy I'm curious about right now. Edit: Oh, no - they are two composites? What's the deal?

Those natals are pretty big.. you can't reduce them a bit? It should be ok though.. I'll try all the same. I'll now look at your synastry too.

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posted November 27, 2018 10:13 AM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
In the composite, I like the Sun Venus Mercury in Cap in 8th! Very nice! And with Gemini as the ASC, Mercury is well aspected so that's good. I really like the Saturn conjunct Juno. In my personal records of couples that were together long term I saw this often. Note these are my personal friends and family... Mars (in Leo! fiery!) to Moon is a nice touch for good passion. Neptune conjunct Amor, Valentine conjunct Uranus... these are interesting to me. I like them, but it makes me wonder if the love is a little more idealistic, less personal? Like the love of the relationship is more about these outer qualities as opposed to the love of each other? If that makes sense. I also like that your AC axis is sextile/trine to your MC axis. It feels like good harmony to me. Chiron trines your stellium so I like this very much, like it will be a healing relationship.

Watch that Pluto squaring Saturn Juno. Especially since the 6th/12th house Taurus/Scorpio axis is intercepted. This will be a blind spot for you. Aries/Mars will help you get in to the 12th, and Libra (yeah Moon!) will help you get in to the 6th. But I think this might be the challenge you will face?

I am not as familiar with interpreting Davison, but I like the reinforcement of the stellium in 8th, and this time Moon is sextile Pluto! Depth! Look again and you have a tight trine between Juno and Saturn. And Juno sits on the Moon Pluto midpoint so this partnership between you really stimulates the depth. Still have that Pluto Saturn square, so keep an eye on it. And that same axis is repeated- 6th 12th intercepted, same signs. This time though Valentine sits on the IC and I think that is very nice.

I will look at the synastry in a bit!

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posted November 27, 2018 03:21 PM            

It's funny because I usually don't pay attention to aspects between outer planets, but for some reason this square really stood out to me. I feel like there will be challenges to your commitment, or your sense of responsibility. You're right, they are both strong and with Saturn being the ruler of the Sun... I just feel like this is what you need to watch. It could be something between the two of you, like power struggles... or it could be outside forces...

posted November 27, 2018 07:52 PM            

Here’s mine

posted November 27, 2018 07:59 PM            

For you, you need a Virgo to let you in to your Libra energy, and his IC is there. His core self can help you access this house, and obviously the MC in Pisces lets you in to your trapped 12th house in Aries. For him, your Taurus ASC lets him in to his trapped Gemini 6th, and your DSC in Scorpio to his trapped 12th. This means that you help each other out, and I like the symmetry.

You both need to work on that 6th/12th house axis, and this is obviously why it is repeated in composite. Together, you will. Love that mars in your first, just watch your Pluto opposing it. You're used to it, he's not. Love the Mars Jupiter though. His Saturn on your Venus is good for you, and yours sextile his mars . Good stability here, and in the right amounts. I like his Cap Mercury conjunct Uranus for you, it fits your Aqua Sun and I think you appreciate this. 8th house action, check! 7th house action, check check! He puts Jupiter in your 5th, love it.

posted November 27, 2018 08:20 PM            

I always thought it was a bit weird tbh. I have a lot of easy aspects though which I guess is good. But I think I have a “cradle” pattern it’s called? And a “locomotive” chart shape? I forget

I always thought Kurt Cobain hands down has the most fascinating/interesting/unique and beautiful charts I’ve ever seen. To me just by looking at it it’s obvious why he is such a massive icon and why he was so special/talented. Those grand trines in water and on the angles forming a kite! Crazy. He chart is so symmetrical too. It’s so aesthetically pleasing.

posted November 27, 2018 08:22 PM            

Maybe his Moon square Neptune out-shined anything about the father.. hmmm..

He has been incredibly direct about sex, to the put of out right rude. Which I find very intriguing, even though I have one bananas at him for being so crude.

What about your sex drive or feelings around sex? If I can ask

posted November 27, 2018 08:33 PM            

But I have eros conjunct my sun and my stellium, which I found to be a lot more accurate and revealing to show how sexual someone is than their mars sign. And my 8th ruler is Jupiter, it’s not afflicted or making any harass aspects at all, it’s again a part of my stellium and even conjunct my eros at 3 degrees?

You should check out his Eros lol

One thing I will say though, is that I take sex and intimacy VERY seriously. I haven’t had many partners at all. By choice. Sex is a totally sacred thing to me, I have to have a real connection and bond with the person. It’s always a really emotional thing for me, I get very attached and can’t be lighthearted or just casual about it lol. I take everything about sex/relationships and intimacy too fricken seriously if I’m being honest, stupid Saturn and my Scorpio/Pluto DSC lmao. Maybe it’s my Virgo moon as well. Virgo is a chaste sign, doesn’t just sleep with anyone.

posted November 27, 2018 08:47 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
First of all, I find it interesting that you each let the other in to their trapped/intercepted houses. Very good sign.

For you, you need a Virgo to let you in to your Libra energy, and his IC is there. His core self can help you access this house, and obviously the MC in Pisces lets you in to your trapped 12th house in Aries. For him, your Taurus ASC lets him in to his trapped Gemini 6th, and your DSC in Scorpio to his trapped 12th. This means that you help each other out, and I like the symmetry.

You both need to work on that 6th/12th house axis, and this is obviously why it is repeated in composite. Together, you will. Love that mars in your first, just watch your Pluto opposing it. You're used to it, he's not. Love the Mars Jupiter though. His Saturn on your Venus is good for you, and yours sextile his mars . Good stability here, and in the right amounts. I like his Cap Mercury conjunct Uranus for you, it fits your Aqua Sun and I think you appreciate this. 8th house action, check! 7th house action, check check! He puts Jupiter in your 5th, love it.

I think this looks promising. The only thing I see: your Mercury squares his Moon, his chart ruler. Watch for that. Mercury squares suck sometimes (speaking from personal experience). But maybe that won't be a big deal since your Mercurys are conjunct, meaning his own Mercury squares his Moon too... and his Uranus squares your Mars, but that might not be a big issue...

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posted November 27, 2018 09:09 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I have a SUPER high sex drive lol always have. I’m super comfortable and open-minded regarding sex as well. I have zero intimacy issues. 8th house in sag and the ruler in aqua conjunct Uranus/sun/Neptune? Lol
I’m very assertive when it comes to initiating sex as well like your guy which is interesting!! Maybe it’s the Saturn opposition idk lol.
My ex has mars R and never initiated so I always did and I pursued him etc. When I like someone I’m not shy I’m letting them know lol.

But I have eros conjunct my sun and my stellium, which I found to be a lot more accurate and revealing to show how sexual someone is than their mars sign. And my 8th ruler is Jupiter, it’s not afflicted or making any harass aspects at all, it’s again a part of my stellium and even conjunct my eros at 3 degrees?

You should check out his Eros lol

One thing I will say though, is that I take sex and intimacy VERY seriously. I haven’t had many partners at all. By choice. Sex is a totally sacred thing to me, I have to have a real connection and bond with the person. It’s always a really emotional thing for me, I get very attached and can’t be lighthearted or just casual about it lol. I take everything about sex/relationships and intimacy too fricken seriously if I’m being honest, stupid Saturn and my Scorpio/Pluto DSC lmao. Maybe it’s my Virgo moon as well. Virgo is a chaste sign, doesn’t just sleep with anyone.

I do have mars R by progression as well, I wonder if that means anything?

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Yes.. his eros is conjunct my ascendant

Don't worry.. I've done all the roids of course. Can't get enough, of course.

How funny that you have that same opposition. And/but also, the nodes too, but in the opposite direction - his nodes go NN = Aires.

Is Mars in Libra romantic like they say? Also, you have a Virgo Moon. Cool. Tell me all you can about all

I'm still looking.. doing a thorough look throughout the day here.. I'm also thinking about my thread and what you and StoneMoon are saying (if he is waiting for me StoneMoon, that would be incredibly romantic and lovely).

Astrology is so rich! And you and StoneMoon take different angles and have different processes, which is ace. It takes time to digest it all.

posted November 27, 2018 09:46 PM            

Oh, and our moms were very critical of us. That’s something I’ve noticed with all my other Virgo moon friends. Our moms like to tell us what to do, “fix” us, tell us what we can or should do instead, they think it’s helpful but really it’s just them being nit picky and critical of us. I guess this is where it all starts. Never feeling like anything is good enough. Good enough isn’t good enough, it needs to be better.

I distinctly remember (and this is one of my earliest memories of my mother), I was around 2/3 years old and I spent hours cleaning and tidying up my parents and my own bedroom without her asking. (She’s likes everything neat! Lol), so I was trying to please her and I remember it was spotless, perfection. I thought she would be happy. I remember waiting for her to come home, and I showed her/told her about it. And she said “oh! that’s nice. But how come you didn’t do your sisters room too”?

posted November 28, 2018 03:53 AM            

Let's see whats going on with those squares and opps.

It is his Moon that is most challenged in his chart (at 11 Libra) by Mercury and Uranus and Neptune (Uranus 8 Mercury 8 Neptune 13), giving a mind that is uncertain about what it collects from the environment and maybe tends to over compensate in this area by talking, or over thinking, or moving about the place a lot and being generally restless. An understatement given the other planets and how close they are too.

We see that LunaIscariot's Mars conjuncts that Moon widely (at 5 Libra); his Moon then, separating from LSs Mars. And, his Moon is closely square LCs Mercury too (applying to her Mercury). As it is in his own chart. While both people live with that square Mercury: LSs square is from her Mars, and his is from his Moon, and while this alone is quite different and complimentary, I think that LS is in for a big time with her Mercury exactly conjunct his Neptune.

His Moon square is "sandwiched" between degrees, with his Mercury on one side with Uranus, and Neptune on the other.
Then, LS Mercury coming along right on top of Neptune there, and hopefully providing support, clarity, and way out for his Mercury that is fogged over by Neptune!

There's a bit of mirroring here: both HAVE this Mercury square, and generally, it is unconscious when in our own charts. But, this aspect is combined via their Moon/Mars conjunct. We may see some projection going on here, where one or both people blame the other for being too terse, fickle, agitated, aggressive etc. Or, alternatively and in time, there will be a sympathy and empathy that will develop. An intimacy that both, in secret, understand each other's tender spots that other people in the outside world don't have privy too. But which way it goes depends on other aspects.

LSs Saturn at 3 degree Aries is additionally, quite closely square his 8 degree Cap Mercury. It is - as she says - indeed a t-square, and it pulls both Mercuries in with his Uranus and his Neptune, his Moon and her Mars, and her Saturn. That Saturn will be demanding clarity from his Mercury (conjunct Neptune). Which will be helpful to him at times. But good to remember that it is a square, and if it gets too bossy, his Mercury may call his big guys there in and respond with evasive, subversive or undermining action, which will only infuriate Saturn. And Saturn will go and squash his Moon .. etc, etc.. and in a loop it will be in.

Again, it is his Moon that is sandwiched among all of this. Luckily LSs Sun trines (at 8 Aqua) and can support that Moon because, really that's quite a lot for a Moon. But, he has a nice "out" with his Mars at 0 Gemini, which means it doesn't have to get too heated. And it's nicely trine LSs Mars too! Which means, all that heat is capable of being managed sensibly and maybe with HOT make-up LOVING.

Additionally to the subversive action from those "big guys" with his Mercury, when he feels vulnerable or unsure, his Saturn at 23 Cap, conjuncting LSs Venus (21 Cap) may come into authoritative force and squash your soft side quite harshly. But, it will level the playing field and will build respect. Arguably, it's good he has some defense because your Mars and Saturn are quite a force on his Moon. It will provide greater masculine energy for him, which will only serve to keep him in the game (which is the idea, right ). Hopefully though, he knows the limits.. because those big guys are nothing to sneeze at. His Saturn trine so tightly to your own Moon (at 22 Virgo) is a winner, but, again, we don't want your feminine planets becoming too submissive to his Saturn. But it is a big tick, because only one good aspect from Saturn to the inners is great.

His Venus and LSs Moon are square. I was going to say that, I would like to see more support to your Venus LS. I fear it will be pretty up against the wall with only Saturn on it. But, there is otherwise too his trine from Pluto! This is fab and again, will keep him in the game for sure. It will also give you more power (I believe Venus can woe big ol' Pluto any day). But, there is heat in all of this, with an amount of cat n mouse, and hot/cold, push/pull here.. which will serve to keep things HOT and interesting.

I had some trouble with this synastry, and I know why: it's because it is deep and layered. This only speaks of significance. You know, some charts come through and there's just nothing there - no layers, repeated themes and mirroring. I like this synastry for that reason.

I'll be back. I will keep looking and add more to this post shortly (so don't quote )!

posted November 28, 2018 08:49 AM            

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Virgo moon just makes you super analytical, your mind is constantly picking everything apart, over-thinker, notices everything. Very critical but mainly with ourselves since the energy is turned inwards. I actually have pretty good self-esteem though, which is rare for Virgo moons. It’s a very insecure moon placement. But I am very humble and tend to think of myself as lower than I probably should, or underestimating myself, not giving myself enough credit when I should. Very perfectionist, we have high standards for ourselves. When we do things, we usually try our best. So we tend to be good at a lot of things because we try that much harder. Over-achievers. In high-school I would take on ridiculous course loads. One semester I had all core classes no electives by choice, just English, math, social and science lol everyone said I was crazy but I wanted to get them done sooner so I could be done school early. I maintained a 95 percent average; didn’t need to at all, nobody cared or was forcing me to, it’s just that perfectionist needing to be “perfect” or wanting to always out-do ourselves energy.
I’m super into hygiene and cleanliness. I used to have bad OCD and hypochondria but not anymore. Still have some quirky habits, but that’s just Virgo moon for you lol. I noticed it manifests one of two ways; either the Virgo moon person will be super into their own physical bodies health and hygiene, OR their environment. Like needing things to be neat and orderly. I’m actually quite messy, I’m the first one. Also, I’m a picky eater, I HATE being sick. Being sick with a Virgo moon really messes with your emotions since Virgo rules health.
We have REALLY good memories, I can remember everything, even when I was a small child, my earliest memory is from when I was only 11 months in my crib. I can remember names and faces from years ago.
And with Virgo moon, the main emotions were prone to is worry/anxiety, and when were unhappy we complain LOL. We like to be helpful and be of service as well 😊
I LOVE math, anything that requires me to think or involves critical thinking skills. Virgo is a very nerdy sign tbh, in every Virgo moon there is a nerdy/brainy side. We like to study and learn things (mercury influence).

Oh, and our moms were very critical of us. That’s something I’ve noticed with all my other Virgo moon friends. Our moms like to tell us what to do, “fix” us, tell us what we can or should do instead, they think it’s helpful but really it’s just them being nit picky and critical of us. I guess this is where it all starts. Never feeling like anything is good enough. Good enough isn’t good enough, it needs to be better.

I distinctly remember (and this is one of my earliest memories of my mother), I was around 2/3 years old and I spent hours cleaning and tidying up my parents and my own bedroom without her asking. (She’s likes everything neat! Lol), so I was trying to please her and I remember it was spotless, perfection. I thought she would be happy. I remember waiting for her to come home, and I showed her/told her about it. And she said “oh! that’s nice. But how come you didn’t do your sisters room too”?

I think this sums up a Virgo moon mother perfectly.

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posted November 28, 2018 09:05 AM            

I love the insights about the Mars Saturn hard aspects. Not surprising that the three of us are drawn to working together, our charts work together and our love interests are similar. My guy has Saturn square Pisces. I don't know him well enough yet to get in to that part of his life. His dad appears, so far, to be the less dominant parent. So, Sass, sometimes the roles reverse and Sun can represent the mother if she is the dominant parent. I am thinking from the few stories I have heard that my guy's mom was harsh and critical, though I hope not abusive.

Luna, I am sorry about your abusive father. I appreciate the connections you are making about the astrological aspects with it though. Mars being in your intercepted signs. I have Sun, Jupiter intercepted in Cancer 8th and Moon intercepted in Cap 2nd. Your explanations are giving me more to think about in terms of myself. For me I feel like life is full of stops and starts. Every time I get one thing going, the other loses it's balance.

As for Eros vs Mars and sex... I have Eros conjunct my Sun/Jupiter along with BML. I can attest to solid drive. I looked at my guy and he has no connections with Eros, but his Eros conjuncts my Venus and his Cupid conjuncts my ASC so.... maybe I will rile him up?

I think your chart is very pretty. I find it very aesthetically pleasing!

So you have that Saturn Pluto square in composite, and I think you are right that this will be power issues btwn the both of you. You both have natal easy aspects between Pluto and Saturn. I think you are strong willed, determined, stubborn individuals! This may indeed be the challenge, is learning your own strengths of Mars and intercepted houses, but then learning to bend a little too. Just a thought.

I feel like that Mars trine you two have will be nice. Good drive and energy. And his Eros is on your Mars! And yours trines his! Oh, I love it!!!!!

You mentioned him being more in to you. Well, his Valentine squares your Moon, though I don't think that's active just yet. And his Sun trines your Juno. But your Moon squares his Juno. I wonder if this is affecting you too?

posted November 28, 2018 09:48 AM            

I think in my case. The fact that both Saturn and mars are afflicted/detriment by sign, that opposition really manifested negatively because those planets aren’t healthy to begin with. Saturn being in Aries opposite mars (Saturn being my 10th ruler so representing the father plus Saturn represent father anyways); Aries is angry, aggressive, domineering, mean etc. in the lower vibration.
It’s funny too, Saturn is in the 12th which rules prisons and my dad was in and out of jail throughout his life lol. Astrology is crazy!

Regarding your eros contacts with your guy; yes those sound good! Check out asteroid lust too. In my experience it’s very accurate! If it’s conjunct ASC, Venus or mars it’s hot!