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kani
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posted December 10, 2018 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Maybe he enjoys seeing the fish turns pirahna. Lol

Hahahaha
Yah he used to accuse me of being cold (I do need a looong time to let someone in and only then I become affectionate) so yeah I reckon he also did that to get a reaction of me. But we also have hard mercury aspects so maybe that's part of it ? My pluto opposite his mercury exacty

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posted December 10, 2018 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Have you ever experienced Moon square Venus in synastry?

No. How does it feel like?

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posted December 10, 2018 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
Hahahaha
Yah he used to accuse me of being cold (I do need a looong time to let someone in and only then I become affectionate) so yeah I reckon he also did that to get a reaction of me. But we also have hard mercury aspects so maybe that's part of it ? My pluto opposite his mercury exacty

Pluto in hard aspect to Mercury can cause epic arguments.

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posted December 10, 2018 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Pluto in hard aspect to Mercury can cause epic arguments.

I know, I read that before and it certainly rings true for me and him

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posted December 10, 2018 08:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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What other aspects do you have with him that made your Moon-Pluto go berserk? Does Saturn-Pluto do that since they're generational planets?


so far the only explanation I have been able to find has been his saturn on my pluto, making me act like a total slave to him

his jupiter was also square my sun, and square my pluto...perhaps those contributed as well

I haven't since dated anybody from his generation (and don't want to ever again)

he was 6 years older..that's the worst age difference according to chinese astrology

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posted December 10, 2018 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

so far the only explanation I have been able to find has been his saturn on my pluto, making me act like a total slave to him

his jupiter was also square my sun, and square my pluto...perhaps those contributed as well

I haven't since dated anybody from his generation (and don't want to ever again)

he was 6 years older..that's the worst age difference according to chinese astrology


How were your Moon and Venus aspected?

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posted December 10, 2018 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ my venus right conjunct his mars (and trine his pluto)

my moon square his sun/mercuy, trine his saturn

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posted December 10, 2018 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
^ my venus right conjunct his mars (and trine his pluto)

my moon square his sun/mercuy, trine his saturn


I always find emotional intensity to do with Pluto. He might have triggered your Moon-Pluto square...plus you have a Venus-Pluto with him.

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posted December 10, 2018 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I always find emotional intensity to do with Pluto. He might have triggered your Moon-Pluto square...plus you have a Venus-Pluto with him.


I have moon trine pluto


and yes, I agree that the most intense things in my interactions with him came from venus trine pluto almost exact

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posted December 11, 2018 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:

I have moon trine pluto


and yes, I agree that the most intense things in my interactions with him came from venus trine pluto almost exact


what'S your ascendant?

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posted December 11, 2018 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ana_bee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Venus/Mars is a sexual attraction aspect, isn't it? So says everyone... though I don't have it with my guy. Venus-Moon is really SWEET! I have the trine DW with my guy and that's the instant energy and most apparent in our relationship, other than our Sun-mercury. How does the conjunction feel like?

You wrestle with your bf as in you guys fight? I'm beginning to feel worried becos I sometimes do feel like strangling my guy, lol. This Mars irritates Pluto in small ways but it doesn't seem to be doing it on purpose. I'm hoping our other aspects like Moon-Venus, Moon-Asc, Moon/Venus-Pluto can help soften it.

I suddenly recalled that with one of my ex-bfs I also have Venus trine Mars DW, Venus trine Pluto, Sun conj Moon, Moon conj Asc and I don't feel so sexual with him too. Hmm...


What does the Venus Moon trine DW in synastry feel like for you? You said sweet.. like in cozy and affectionate.. or how did you mean it? Would really interest me, how this aspect plays out in real life

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posted December 11, 2018 05:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have it with a friend, he is my crush, and I know he was crushing on me before..

But its, My Moon trine his venus.
And his Moon conjunct my Venus.
(and venus oppo venus)

Its air and fire signs.

I'm not sure, but I think it helps with, finding each other endearing. I find him really sweet and even though I don't like his libra venus, I find him super charming. He is so great at smoothing things over and such

And well this is a personality trait for both of us though, that we never hold grudges. We forgive and move on easily. Just one genuine and warm smile and I will melt.

We have had up and downs in our friendship. Periods when we were saturnian cold and played a bit plutonian games with each other.

But we always find balance and sweetness again. Its like, we won't be scared off by each others bad sides.

I guess one has to be in a "real gf-bf relationship" with each other to understand this more deeply


Also, I don't know if He finds me endearing. It seems so, but thats why I dislike his venus libra, it may be just him liking smoothing things over. Sometimes I find that tiredsome, like "oh well, he is just libra".

Like, I can't be really sure about how deep his feelings are. If its about him not liking being disliked, or if he is 100% doing it bc of love.

I am always 100% genuine, also I don't care what others think of me, take it or leave it
(aries venus stellium)

Oh and cozyness. I feel so cozy with him. during for ex bus rides etc. We don't even need to talk. We can just sit there and feel content with each other. I feel safe. Its not only bc of venus-moon synastry of course, we have some more "safe n cozy" aspects

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posted December 11, 2018 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Interrogating as in digging into your feelings?

I mean asking me personal questions.

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posted December 11, 2018 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by kani:
what'S your ascendant?

leo

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posted December 11, 2018 11:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ana_bee:
What does the Venus Moon trine DW in synastry feel like for you? You said sweet.. like in cozy and affectionate.. or how did you mean it? Would really interest me, how this aspect plays out in real life

What was instantly apparent is we feel really comfortable and gentle with each other... we speak gently and treat each other tenderly. Even when we're upset, we can't bring ourselves to stay angry at each other for long (I even have problem raising my voice at him despite my Pluto squaring his Mars). We forgive and make peace quickly. Recently I got upset with him in a club so I told him I'm gonna leave. He also got upset because I was upset and said he'd leave too. But by the time we got outta the club, we're ok again, lol. It's like staying angry with each other bothers us tremendously.

We both have Moon square Mars natally so we both have a temper but this aspect really turns my heart into marshmallows (I guess unless something really bad happens). There was once we wanted to break up but it was so Korean drama...

Him: We should stop seeing each other.
Me: Will you really cut me off?
Him: You think I can do that?
Me: Will you do that?
Him: No...
Me: Can we just be friends?
Him: Do you think it's possible?
Me: No...

We ended up dropping the idea...lol.

This aspect also makes me a cry baby because my heart becomes so soft and we become so sensitive to each others' words/behaviour. There's also a lot of staring at each other dreamily but that could be Neptune-Moon/Venus. And the sweetness makes me want to kiss him all the time - the sweet kinda kiss.

This is a really nice aspect to have esp. in a love relationship. In Composite we also have the trine so it's a theme here.

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posted December 11, 2018 11:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I'm not sure, but I think it helps with, finding each other endearing. I find him really sweet and even though I don't like his libra venus, I find him super charming. He is so great at smoothing things over and such

And well this is a personality trait for both of us though, that we never hold grudges. We forgive and move on easily. Just one genuine and warm smile and I will melt.

Oh and cozyness. I feel so cozy with him. during for ex bus rides etc. We don't even need to talk. We can just sit there and feel content with each other. I feel safe. Its not only bc of venus-moon synastry of course, we have some more "safe n cozy" aspects


What you have described are very Moon-Venus.
I think his feelings are genuine because Moon-Venus makes you wanna be nice to the other person - in a way that you can't help yourself.

What other safe and cozy aspects do you have?

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posted December 12, 2018 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Omg I can so relate to that! How one just can't find the momentum or energy to hold bad mood or energies up.

One will fall into softness and lowey doweyness real quickly.

Sometimes its irritating though, when I feel like I was not "finished". Then I can be all irritated for him being caring ahaha.

Awww I really hope he is genuine. It feels so, he is so extra attentive when I'm sad. Or if he has been dismissive, not on purpose, but if he feels like I may have been hurt by something I interpreted as him being dismissive or not caring of me, he will be extra attentive, soft and so warm the day after.


BUT it has to be Subtil stuff, and I must have to have acted like it was no big deal, but look sad.

He can't stand accusive tones or passive aggressiveness.

He will never say sorry! (Leo sun). He will just be extra warm, and wanna smooth without the need to say sorry.
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Omg we too have Natally, moon-mars aspects!
I have a conjunction.

He has a square. Mine is super obvious. But his is very under the surface. (he has mars-neptune too so).


We have in synastry for ex Pluto-Mars sextile, so its alike you guys haha

And thank you for sharing your "Korean drama" moment! its so sweet and lovely to read awww <3
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posted December 12, 2018 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Melinn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets see, thise things seems to be "safe n cozy" aspects and house overlays, but I might be wrong so correct me if so^^

Moon-IC
My Moon is smack on his IC (but accompanied by my mars n chiron so..)

2th House overlays
My Sun is in his 2th house. My mercury falls in hs 2th maaybe 1th.
His Venus is in my 2th, near my southnode.

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IC Rulers
His IC ruler is mercury, and I have a bunch of planets making harmonious aspects to his mercury, like my moon, venus etc.

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My IC ruler is jupiter. A bunch of his planets are aspecting it, but, mostly squares though so I'm not sure if thats good, but should be since jupiter is benevolent? Or I may be wrong in this haha
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Venus_neptune

My venus is square his neptune


Also in composite Venus-Neptune is conjunct and in trine with composite moon.
And there are more things if we compare things like, Midpoints, natal to composite/davison etc but wont bore you guys

edit: Im gonna put this here too, for ex, his midpoint sun is exactly smack on my natal moon... ok Im done
lol have to start ma own thread

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posted December 12, 2018 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have to get to know the person before I open up and it takes awhile. I get defensive when people just ask me random questions about myself and I don't know them. A lot of people tell me I'm defensive.

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posted December 13, 2018 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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I have to get to know the person before I open up and it takes awhile. I get defensive when people just ask me random questions about myself and I don't know them. A lot of people tell me I'm defensive.

This seems to be Moon-Pluto because my guy also doesn't like people digging into his stuff.

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posted December 13, 2018 01:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Melinn:
Omg I can so relate to that! How one just can't find the momentum or energy to hold bad mood or energies up.

One will fall into softness and lowey doweyness real quickly.

Sometimes its irritating though, when I feel like I was not "finished". Then I can be all irritated for him being caring ahaha.

Awww I really hope he is genuine. It feels so, he is so extra attentive when I'm sad. Or if he has been dismissive, not on purpose, but if he feels like I may have been hurt by something I interpreted as him being dismissive or not caring of me, he will be extra attentive, soft and so warm the day after.


BUT it has to be Subtil stuff, and I must have to have acted like it was no big deal, but look sad.

He can't stand accusive tones or passive aggressiveness.

He will never say sorry! (Leo sun). He will just be extra warm, and wanna smooth without the need to say sorry.


We've several Korean drama moments (lol). When you're dealing with natal Moon-Mars you cannot be hard-handed or they'll just fight you, plus he has natal Pluto-Mars too (yiaks). So when I go soft & Neptunian with him, he becomes jelly, and vice-versa.

Your Moon on his IC is really nice. He must feel very comfortable and "at home" with you. 2nd house overlays can be very good too - you feel possessive of each other. I also really like your Neptune-Venus/Moon aspects in Composite.

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posted December 13, 2018 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
This seems to be Moon-Pluto because my guy also doesn't like people digging into his stuff.


Is it in hard aspect or soft? Cuz this guy I know insisted I ask questions... (It's in soft aspect in his chart)

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posted December 13, 2018 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Is it in hard aspect or soft? Cuz this guy I know insisted I ask questions... (It's in soft aspect in his chart)

Moon conjunct Pluto. You can ask him anything except things he consider private and there're many things he consider private. lol

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posted December 13, 2018 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Moon conjunct Pluto. You can ask him anything except things he consider private and there're many things he consider private. lol

I think the conjunction would probably play out stronger? (Didn't get the feel that he wouldn't answer my private questions for some reason. He was like 'how come you have so little questions for me' during a somewhat private conversation like almost as if he was insulted lol. But I guess that's the conjunction vs the trine.)

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posted December 13, 2018 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
I think the conjunction would probably play out stronger? (Didn't get the feel that he wouldn't answer my private questions for some reason. He was like 'how come you have so little questions for me' during a somewhat private conversation like almost as if he was insulted lol. But I guess that's the conjunction vs the trine.)

It is absolutely possible.

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