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anska5
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posted December 14, 2018 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there,

I used to be very active on Lindaland about 10 years ago as annaf, but then I guess life happened and astrology somehow moved a little more into the background. However, I've never lost my passion for it and now this is my very first post after registering again. Very glad to be here!

One of the reasons why I've refocused on astrology is an overwhelming attraction I have for a man. Basically I've never felt so attracted to anyone before. It hasnt gone beyond a very hot and heavy make out session yet, but the strong seemingly mutual attraction seems to be reflected in the very strong synastry. However, in the composite chart we have mars opposite saturn..

So I'm wondering about the actual sexual compatibility in the long term because of this mars-saturn opposition in the composite. I've read in multiple sources that this can really puts a damper on the sexual compatibility of a couple and cause a very lukewarm sex life. It supposedly causes awkwardness, out of sync body rhythm, a formality..

So I was wondering whether people who have experienced this mars-saturn opposition in the composite can confirm this negative effect or if you haven't felt it? If not, were there maybe other overriding aspects that may acted as a positive counterbalance?

We have a Sun- moon conjunction, a Sun-pluto conjunction and a mars-pluto conjunction, all in the 7th house, plus venus in the 1st house....So I would hope that especially the mars pluto conjunction which happens to be in scorpio also might be super strong and top the mars-saturn blockage..

Anyway, really curious to hear people's experience with mars opposite saturn in the composite and I'm keeping my fingers crossed it hasnt all been doom and gloom and there is hope..Thanks so much!!

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posted December 14, 2018 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And what if the opposition is at a wide degree? Like 8 degrees?

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted December 14, 2018 08:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually I'd be more worried about that Mars/Pluto and Sun/Pluto conjunction you mentioned... Often they mean bondage and emotional slavery... Feeling suffocated and played by the other person in the long run... Turning against each other and feeling extremely paranoid

Saturn/mars might slow things down in terms of how long he takes to make moves... It's not necessarily bad if the two people have a similar aspect in their individual chart... And if there are Uranus aspects

I have venus opposite saturn in composite with a man, and it took me nine months to learn that I liked him, and I think for him also!... The sex is hot and frequent, even though in synastry his mars is opposite my saturn exactly (also conjunct my jupiter exactly!)

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posted December 14, 2018 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Actually I'd be more worried about that Mars/Pluto and Sun/Pluto conjunction you mentioned... Often they mean bondage and emotional slavery... Feeling suffocated and played by the other person in the long run... Turning against each other and feeling extremely paranoid

Saturn/mars might slow things down in terms of how long he takes to make moves... It's not necessarily bad if the two people have a similar aspect in their individual chart... And if there are Uranus aspects

I have venus opposite saturn in composite with a man, and it took me nine months to learn that I liked him, and I think for him also!... The sex is hot and frequent, even though in synastry his mars is opposite my saturn exactly (also conjunct my jupiter exactly!)


Thanks for sharing

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posted December 15, 2018 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
Hi there,

I used to be very active on Lindaland about 10 years ago as annaf, but then I guess life happened and astrology somehow moved a little more into the background. However, I've never lost my passion for it and now this is my very first post after registering again. Very glad to be here!

One of the reasons why I've refocused on astrology is an overwhelming attraction I have for a man. Basically I've never felt so attracted to anyone before. It hasnt gone beyond a very hot and heavy make out session yet, but the strong seemingly mutual attraction seems to be reflected in the very strong synastry. However, in the composite chart we have mars opposite saturn..

So I'm wondering about the actual sexual compatibility in the long term because of this mars-saturn opposition in the composite. I've read in multiple sources that this can really puts a damper on the sexual compatibility of a couple and cause a very lukewarm sex life. It supposedly causes awkwardness, out of sync body rhythm, a formality..

So I was wondering whether people who have experienced this mars-saturn opposition in the composite can confirm this negative effect or if you haven't felt it? If not, were there maybe other overriding aspects that may acted as a positive counterbalance?

We have a Sun- moon conjunction, a Sun-pluto conjunction and a mars-pluto conjunction, all in the 7th house, plus venus in the 1st house....So I would hope that especially the mars pluto conjunction which happens to be in scorpio also might be super strong and top the mars-saturn blockage..

Anyway, really curious to hear people's experience with mars opposite saturn in the composite and I'm keeping my fingers crossed it hasnt all been doom and gloom and there is hope..Thanks so much!!


I'll share how mine panned out...

I've Mars square Saturn in Composite with my guy and in Synastry his Mars conjunct my Saturn. He was very sexually attracted to me right from the start but I ran from him. Yes, I literally ran home and he chased after me that night (lol). But although I was scared, he also intrigued me. I've never met a man so bold in pursuit. We also have Mars trine Uranus DW and Lilith conj Venus so that could be the cause of his instant lust.

Anyway, we communicated via text over the next few weeks and our mental connection is superb (Sun trine Mercury DW). That's when I started to feel really attracted to him. By the time we met again the sexual tension has built up so strongly we tore each others' clothes off. It was pure lust and we didn't think much, so we were actually both surprised by how nice our sex was - sensual, erotic and deeply emotional (Mars trine Mars in water signs). It left us thinking about it, dreaming about it and lusting each other more... he even told me I gave him the best sexual experience.

It has been 8mths and we still feel sexually attracted. Mars square Saturn didn't dampen this... but what I think this aspect may have done is our sex life cooled off a bit in the last 1mth, not because we're not sexually attracted anymore (he told me he still is), but health issues came into the picture and we have to put our sex life on hold, which caused some tension because I had thought he wasn't interested anymore so I kept testing him and even wanted to break off. However, we also have composite Mars opp Uranus which may have created this erratic energy. I don't know which aspect is causing what exactly.

I threw in the other aspects because I don't think one aspect says everything. You have to look at the overall.

Also, I wanna mention Pluto because we have Pluto squaring our Sun/Mercury/Venus stellium in Composite. In Synastry we have Pluto conj Moon, trine/semisquare Venus, square/quincunx Mars. A lot of people say horrible things about Pluto but I seem to attract such relationships so I might as well live with it. With Pluto, things can never be casual because it intensifies, esp with the hard aspects. Pluto can cause people to emotionally/mentally torment one another because each wanna have the upper hand. The need to know that the other party is still within grasp is of utmost importance. But Pluto can also be good. It builds a super deep bond between 2 ppl. This is my current experience.

We are both possessive but I show it more in a direct confrontational manner. I'm not a plutonic person but I'm plutonic with him. He shows it in a more passive-aggressive manner (Cancer Mars) like giving me the cold shoulder or saying things to push me away. I hate it and I'll dig at him till he reveal his true emotions. He refused to admit I mean a lot to him yet he would eye me like crazy when I talk to other guys; he would tell me we should go our separate ways but refused to delete my number; he would say he'll not contact me anymore but text me the next day, etc. It's a lot of mind games and honestly I didn't like it, but I also realised that our emotional bond grew deeper with each fight we survived. We'll be fighting one moment and talking sweetly the next (Moon trine Venus). We became emotionally more vulnerable with each other. So one day I peeked behind Pluto's mask and realised that it really stems from a fear of losing one another. The qn is how to manage our Pluto? I'm still learning. Can we survive it long-term? I don't know. What I only know is our bond is getting stronger by the day. Even if one day we part, our bond will not break. He has told me that he's still attracted to me in every way and that he'll never ever forget me.

Some people hate Pluto hard aspects as they can't stand the fights so I say it's only for tough individuals with deep feelings for each other - only then you can withstand Pluto hard aspects. I wouldn't worry so much about your conjunctions. I envy that you have this aspect.

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posted December 15, 2018 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had this with my ex. Mars opposite Saturn, the only mars aspect in the composite as well. We ALWAYS had good sex, he even told me he didn’t like sex before he met me. The sexual attraction was always ridiculous. Even when he broke up with me, he had a boner lol. Just us being close to each other, there was a strong magnetic attraction/pull. First time he touched me literal electricity went though me. It was instant attraction when we met and we got intimate quickly which is totally unlike both of us and I was a virgin before I met him lol.I Even when things were horrible and toxic between us fighting etc. the sexual attraction was always there. So no, mars opp Saturn isn’t a kill for sex in the composite. That would more so be the synasty (hard Mars Saturn aspects). Composite DOESNT show feelings etc. It’s just the relationship itself. The dynamics. It’s a bad aspect but in terms of not being able to work together well, coming up against obstacles, lack of harmony. Push pull affect. Usually the male is more cold and distant or lacks affection as well compared to the female. He’s a lot less expressive.

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posted December 15, 2018 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I had this with my ex. Mars opposite Saturn, the only mars aspect in the composite as well. We ALWAYS good sex, he even told me he didn’t like sex before he met me. The the sexual attraction was always ridiculous. Even when he broke up with me, had a boner. Just us being close to each other, there was a strong magnetic attraction/pull. Even when things were horrible and toxic between us fighting etc. the sexual attraction was always there. So mars opp Saturn isn’t a kill for sex in the composite. That would more so be the synasty (hard Mars Saturn aspects). Composite DOESNT show feelings etc. It’s just the relationship itself. The dynamics. It’s a bad aspect but in terms of not being able to work together well, coming up against obstacles, lack of harmony. Push pull affect. Usually the male is more cold and distant or lacks affection as well compared to the female. He’s a lot less expressive.

Wow what other aspects did you have? *curious*

Sorry for hijacking th thread but I'm intrigued

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posted December 15, 2018 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Exact 0 degree orb Venus conjunct DSC, Venus is my ASC ruler so my ASC ruler conjunct his DSC. His Venus in my 8th house, his mars in my 5th, my 1st ruler Venus conjunct his 8th ruler Uranus. My sun in his 8th, most of my planets falling into his 7th house. Strong symbolism matching from both sides with the 7th and 8th, and my 5th but not his 5th too much. My eros conjunct his sun. His 8th ruler was HEAVILY stimulated. Mars square Pluto. My Lilith conjunct his mars.
His moon in Scorpio was his ASC ruler and it squares my 8th ruler, so we had DW ASC ruler and 8th house hard contacts. His lust was also conjunct my ASC.
His ASC ruler also conjuncts my DSC by sign.

I’m also quite “attractive” so I get told a lot so I’m sure that helps too though lol

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posted December 15, 2018 04:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Exact 0 degree orb Venus conjunct DSC, Venus is my ASC ruler so my ASC ruler conjunct his DSC. His Venus in my 8th house, his mars in my 5th, my 1st ruler Venus conjunct his 8th ruler Uranus. My sun in his 8th, most of my planets falling into his 7th house. Strong symbolism matching from both sides with the 7th and 8th, and my 5th but not his 5th too much. My eros conjunct his sun. His 8th ruler was HEAVILY stimulated. Mars square Pluto. My Lilith conjunct his mars.
His moon in Scorpio was his ASC ruler and it squares my 8th ruler, so we had DW ASC ruler and 8th house hard contacts. His lust was also conjunct my ASC.
His ASC ruler also conjuncts my DSC by sign.

I’m also quite “attractive” so I get told a lot so I’m sure that helps too though lol


Wow that sounds very sexy


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posted December 15, 2018 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Actually I'd be more worried about that Mars/Pluto and Sun/Pluto conjunction you mentioned... Often they mean bondage and emotional slavery... Feeling suffocated and played by the other person in the long run... Turning against each other and feeling extremely paranoid

Saturn/mars might slow things down in terms of how long he takes to make moves... It's not necessarily bad if the two people have a similar aspect in their individual chart... And if there are Uranus aspects

I have venus opposite saturn in composite with a man, and it took me nine months to learn that I liked him, and I think for him also!... The sex is hot and frequent, even though in synastry his mars is opposite my saturn exactly (also conjunct my jupiter exactly!)


Hi Girlwitharainysoul,

That's very interesting that the pluto aspects are much more of a read flag for you than mars-saturn. I think I'm very drawn to plutonean relationships, always have been and he certainly is unbelievably plutonic with a moon in scorpio and all his other planets final ruler being pluto in scorpio. I think there is certainly the potential for transformation and the other side of pluto (obsessive feelings) have already surfaced early on just as what I assume are some form of mind game on his part. Or I'm not sure whether they are really mind games, but certainly a need to remain in control and keep his cards close to his chest...

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posted December 15, 2018 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I'll share how mine panned out...

I've Mars square Saturn in Composite with my guy and in Synastry his Mars conjunct my Saturn. He was very sexually attracted to me right from the start but I ran from him. Yes, I literally ran home and he chased after me that night (lol). But although I was scared, he also intrigued me. I've never met a man so bold in pursuit. We also have Mars trine Uranus DW and Lilith conj Venus so that could be the cause of his instant lust.

Anyway, we communicated via text over the next few weeks and our mental connection is superb (Sun trine Mercury DW). That's when I started to feel really attracted to him. By the time we met again the sexual tension has built up so strongly we tore each others' clothes off. It was pure lust and we didn't think much, so we were actually both surprised by how nice our sex was - sensual, erotic and deeply emotional (Mars trine Mars in water signs). It left us thinking about it, dreaming about it and lusting each other more... he even told me I gave him the best sexual experience.

It has been 8mths and we still feel sexually attracted. Mars square Saturn didn't dampen this... but what I think this aspect may have done is our sex life cooled off a bit in the last 1mth, not because we're not sexually attracted anymore (he told me he still is), but health issues came into the picture and we have to put our sex life on hold, which caused some tension because I had thought he wasn't interested anymore so I kept testing him and even wanted to break off. However, we also have composite Mars opp Uranus which may have created this erratic energy. I don't know which aspect is causing what exactly.

I threw in the other aspects because I don't think one aspect says everything. You have to look at the overall.

Also, I wanna mention Pluto because we have Pluto squaring our Sun/Mercury/Venus stellium in Composite. In Synastry we have Pluto conj Moon, trine/semisquare Venus, square/quincunx Mars. A lot of people say horrible things about Pluto but I seem to attract such relationships so I might as well live with it. With Pluto, things can never be casual because it intensifies, esp with the hard aspects. Pluto can cause people to emotionally/mentally torment one another because each wanna have the upper hand. The need to know that the other party is still within grasp is of utmost importance. But Pluto can also be good. It builds a super deep bond between 2 ppl. This is my current experience.

We are both possessive but I show it more in a direct confrontational manner. I'm not a plutonic person but I'm plutonic with him. He shows it in a more passive-aggressive manner (Cancer Mars) like giving me the cold shoulder or saying things to push me away. I hate it and I'll dig at him till he reveal his true emotions. He refused to admit I mean a lot to him yet he would eye me like crazy when I talk to other guys; he would tell me we should go our separate ways but refused to delete my number; he would say he'll not contact me anymore but text me the next day, etc. It's a lot of mind games and honestly I didn't like it, but I also realised that our emotional bond grew deeper with each fight we survived. We'll be fighting one moment and talking sweetly the next (Moon trine Venus). We became emotionally more vulnerable with each other. So one day I peeked behind Pluto's mask and realised that it really stems from a fear of losing one another. The qn is how to manage our Pluto? I'm still learning. Can we survive it long-term? I don't know. What I only know is our bond is getting stronger by the day. Even if one day we part, our bond will not break. He has told me that he's still attracted to me in every way and that he'll never ever forget me.

Some people hate Pluto hard aspects as they can't stand the fights so I say it's only for tough individuals with deep feelings for each other - only then you can withstand Pluto hard aspects. I wouldn't worry so much about your conjunctions. I envy that you have this aspect.


Thanks Hikaru29!

We have quite a few soft pluto aspects in synastry as well, plus thos pluto conjunctions with pluto in the composite 7th house. The attraction is magnetic, but what you said about the cooling off period with mars square saturn rang a bell..We are currently in such a cooling off period, basically due to what i think was more of a misunderstanding. We live in different countries now and we had this unbelievably hot first encounter while i visited a friend in his city/country..he was in the middle of a terrible job crises and before passion took over the meeting we met, he actually told me all about his desperation in that respect...The development with us was just an additional complication to an already difficult situation for him, so when I suggested another meeting while I was still on visit the next day, he declined full of regret and wanted us to rather look forward to our next meeting instead. I took this as a rejection and responded very cooly, ignoring the reference to a future meeting. He's been in touch since once, but our exchange is on hold for now....So yes, mars opp saturn could point to delays, cooling of periods, or being out of step, maybe also misunderstanding the actions of the other person (mars) taking them as rejection (saturn) while the may just be external obligations..mmhhh..

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posted December 15, 2018 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I had this with my ex. Mars opposite Saturn, the only mars aspect in the composite as well. We ALWAYS had good sex, he even told me he didn’t like sex before he met me. The sexual attraction was always ridiculous. Even when he broke up with me, he had a boner lol. Just us being close to each other, there was a strong magnetic attraction/pull. First time he touched me literal electricity went though me. It was instant attraction when we met and we got intimate quickly which is totally unlike both of us and I was a virgin before I met him lol.I Even when things were horrible and toxic between us fighting etc. the sexual attraction was always there. So no, mars opp Saturn isn’t a kill for sex in the composite. That would more so be the synasty (hard Mars Saturn aspects). Composite DOESNT show feelings etc. It’s just the relationship itself. The dynamics. It’s a bad aspect but in terms of not being able to work together well, coming up against obstacles, lack of harmony. Push pull affect. Usually the male is more cold and distant or lacks affection as well compared to the female. He’s a lot less expressive.

Thanks so much LunaIscariot, this has been really helpful. What you say about coming up against obstacles, the push pull effect and also the male seeming more distant than the female rings very true. But this I always thought was due to all the conjunctions his uranus makes to my sun, mercury and venus. But reading your reply, mars-saturn might of course also add a further problem to the mix. Initially he was the one far more open about his attraction, then things reversed. In any case it's a very complex situation. Not only do we live in different countries, there is a major age difference between us and to top it all off, he was still hung up on his ex when we met. However, the attraction was magnetic from the start, very strange..even when we were just working together, there was always this need to stand very close to each other. He was also the one who reconnected with me first after his job placement ended and he had to go back to his hometown. I remember in his first voice message he seemed really surprised when he mentioned that he felt this strange bond...but that might be the sun-moon conjunction or the fact that I have my moon and pluto in his 8th house..It's sometimes really tough in synastry to differentiated what aspect causes what...

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posted December 15, 2018 02:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Exact 0 degree orb Venus conjunct DSC, Venus is my ASC ruler so my ASC ruler conjunct his DSC. His Venus in my 8th house, his mars in my 5th, my 1st ruler Venus conjunct his 8th ruler Uranus. My sun in his 8th, most of my planets falling into his 7th house. Strong symbolism matching from both sides with the 7th and 8th, and my 5th but not his 5th too much. My eros conjunct his sun. His 8th ruler was HEAVILY stimulated. Mars square Pluto. My Lilith conjunct his mars.
His moon in Scorpio was his ASC ruler and it squares my 8th ruler, so we had DW ASC ruler and 8th house hard contacts. His lust was also conjunct my ASC.
His ASC ruler also conjuncts my DSC by sign.

I’m also quite “attractive” so I get told a lot so I’m sure that helps too though lol


P.S. Thanks also for adding those infos. This gives me hope that strong synastry aspects can actually counterbalance the dampening effect of the mars-saturn oppostion. Especially aspects to houses and house rulers I find often provide an eye opener when it comes to explaining the strength of attraction between two people. Our 8th house rulers are conjunct. His 5th and 8th house rulers conjunct my 7th house ruler. The ruler of my ascendant the moon is in his 8th house and conjunct his mars. My 5th house ruler is opposite his 8th house ruler and it goes on...

But I have to add we also have a multitude of classic synastry aspects like venus opposite mars, mars trine venus, moon conjunct mars, sun conjunct uranus, venus conjunct uranus, many soft aspects to pluto, moon conjunct uranus, his moon and pluto in my 5th house, my moon and pluto in his 8th house, our ascendants are opposite (him capricorn, me cancer) and lots of ascendants conjunctions from planets.

So judging from your example I really hope that is enough to neutralize mars-saturn... I guess I'm so focused on this aspect because an astrologer i had a reading with really highlighted this aspect as killer aspect. I wasnt too impressed with the reading overall because she really did an extremely superficial job, basically my own analysis was more indepth than anything she did. But you know how it is if a 'professional' pinpoints something as a deal breaker it adds that much more weight...

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posted December 15, 2018 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by anska5:
Thanks Hikaru29!

We have quite a few soft pluto aspects in synastry as well, plus thos pluto conjunctions with pluto in the composite 7th house. The attraction is magnetic, but what you said about the cooling off period with mars square saturn rang a bell..We are currently in such a cooling off period, basically due to what i think was more of a misunderstanding. We live in different countries now and we had this unbelievably hot first encounter while i visited a friend in his city/country..he was in the middle of a terrible job crises and before passion took over the meeting we met, he actually told me all about his desperation in that respect...The development with us was just an additional complication to an already difficult situation for him, so when I suggested another meeting while I was still on visit the next day, he declined full of regret and wanted us to rather look forward to our next meeting instead. I took this as a rejection and responded very cooly, ignoring the reference to a future meeting. He's been in touch since once, but our exchange is on hold for now....So yes, mars opp saturn could point to delays, cooling of periods, or being out of step, maybe also misunderstanding the actions of the other person (mars) taking them as rejection (saturn) while the may just be external obligations..mmhhh..


Yes, the rejection resonates with me. There were times I misunderstood his behaviour and took it as a loss of interest on his part so I also cooled off. But when I did that he also misunderstood and got upset. I'm glad we have other aspects that support communication because we always managed to talk it out and understand each other's feelings in the end.

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posted December 22, 2018 05:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for anska5     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Randall for bumping this!

Would be so curious and grateful to hear more experiences with Mars opposite Saturn.

Pleeeaasse tell me there are more happy stories out there, even if they weren't happily ever after ;-)

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