posted December 17, 2018 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
True about the gender thingy in comparison to planets. I read somewhere can't remember where that the person owning the male/female planet is the one who is natally more in tune with that planet over the other. Think of a woman wearing the pants vs the guy... She'll be the one owning the Mars in the composite chart.

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posted December 17, 2018 04:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
It's a combination of the natals and the synastry. Like say I have an air Mars or in a fire sign and he has his Mars conjunct moon or Venus or something feminine. His Mars will be in a more feminine state than mine. Hence the composite Mars or the male energy within the composite chart will refer to me in this scenario cuz I'm the more dominant one probably. Other things will tweak it of course, like synastry aspects which will make his Mars rise above mine. Since composite rules the relationship in itself, whoever carries whichever energy within the relationship will automatically rule the planet of the relative energy. Not only Mars. Say if I'm the breadwinner then Saturn or 2nd/10th house will probably refer to me. I mean everything is to be considered of course but use the relationship as a separate entity and see who is more in tune with which planet.

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Interesting theory.

Say... we both have water Mars squaring Moon. Mine also squares Venus and his semisquares Venus.

In Synastry, my Mars oppose his Sun/Mercury, quincunx his Moon, trine his Mars/Asc. His Mars sextile my Sun and trine my MC. I'm only mentioning aspects to inner planets & angles.

The Composite Mars conjuncts my natal Sun, btw.

posted December 17, 2018 04:52 AM            

Example, Mars square Moon, replace the square with Mars since square is a Martian aspect.

Sextiles are Venusian aspects and trines are Jupiterian aspects. There are also mercurial aspects, Saturnian aspects... (In all honesty although I understand what they explained, I'm not sure why precisely it is so but I can explain what I know if you wish)

So in this case I'm just gonna disregard the minor ones since not sure how much weight it holds given the traditional method I'm using now anyway.

I'd also consider the house it's in, especially if the first. But say just with this, it's pretty balanced natal-wise. Since your Venus/square would probably cancel each other out although you can look at it as more of a complex mix hence more feminine.

posted December 17, 2018 06:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
First I read somewhere which I think would be relevant here, that aspects refer back to its' style planet. And that planet can be added to the mix in place of the aspect.

Example, Mars square Moon, replace the square with Mars since square is a Martian aspect.

Sextiles are Venusian aspects and trines are Jupiterian aspects. There are also mercurial aspects, Saturnian aspects... (In all honesty although I understand what they explained, I'm not sure why precisely it is so but I can explain what I know if you wish)

So in this case I'm just gonna disregard the minor ones since not sure how much weight it holds given the traditional method I'm using now anyway.

I'd also consider the house it's in, especially if the first. But say just with this, it's pretty balanced natal-wise. Since your Venus/square would probably cancel each other out although you can look at it as more of a complex mix hence more feminine.

Too tired to calculate the synastry now lol maybe post the synastry chart? (I'll try to deliver this time lol last time I just left you hanging - although I'll do it tomorrow)

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posted December 18, 2018 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Good to hear it’s not definitely indicative of this. I understand astrology can not tell you for sure what’s going to happen but thought maybe this scenario could play out often with this aspect. Maybe boundaries in general can be not clear with this aspect? Like doesn’t have to be cheating but asserting yourself in the relationship.

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Whenever you see Neptune squares, it always point to not seeing each other as they are, possible delusions, lies and deceit. But when people see the word 'deceit' they immediately associate it with 'cheating' and you get people testifying "yes, I have this aspect with my partner and he cheated!" so this interpretation spreads like wildfire. But honestly, infidelity is so common nowadays and it can happen to both man/woman whether you have this aspect or not.

Though not exactly the same but I give you a real case... my friend has Neptune square Sun/Mercury with her boyfriend and it also indicates delusions and deceit. This is indeed true but there was no cheating. My friend will sometimes lie to her boyfriend in order to protect his feelings or in an attempt to mediate between him and her family/friends. He always finds out and he hates it. He doesn't see it as her good intention. She on the other hand feels delusional about the relationship due to too much strife.

posted December 18, 2018 02:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Oh ya, I remember that! You owed me one! Haha..

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Lol sorry! I hate to blame it on my Mars but I'll have to 😏. But here you go!

First right off the bat, Mercury being your ruling planet and it sextiling Mars, Mars will be integrated with your outward energy aka prominent in your chart.

Your Mars receives a square from Venus, Moon and Neptune and a sextile from Sun and precise trine from Saturn.

It's purposeful in a very smoothly integrated way with the Saturn trine and kind of a tough love situation going on with the square from Moon/Venus but with visible in your face dreaminess I'd assume with the Neptune square. And it's cool that it sextiles your Sun, so it's not just something that appears to people at first and slowly dies off as they get to know you. Like it's actually part of your goings about in life.
And all this energy will be filtered through your Mercury in a 'pleasant' Martian way being the sextile. Especially with Venus in your first.

I'd summarize your Mars as subtle but very much there at the same time. Like good marketing that you don't realize you're being marketed to.

With him, his ruling planet is Moon and also aspecting his Mars, but with the square. That in itself, probably very abrupt emotional energy with which the Cancer prominence probably just amplifies it.

Mars conjunct Jupiter, square Pluto, trine Uranus and sextile Mercury.

Dunno that's like... thinking about it... First the Mars Jupiter conjunction... In Cancer no less... It's pretty aggravated. The Cancer in his chart is very strongly amplified with all this. And squaring Pluto. Probably feels like grappling onto thin air if that's in sight and I wouldn't be surprised if he uses his manipulative abilities on people with the sextile to Mercury, and it (Moon) being in the third house. With the trine to Uranus he probably doesn't feel guilty about it either. For some reason the Uranus and Pluto to Mars makes me feel like there's these sociopathic tendencies. Although I might be completely wrong lol. Cuz I look at it as detached but adamant about bringing that person into this abyss and then just walking off. And his ruling planet Moon probably just evokes pity and 'aww he's so cute' feelings in people with the aspect to Neptune and wider aspect to Venus so yeah not really visible to people but he's pretty darn deep and not such a darling as he appears. Also his Mars in his twelfth conjuncting AC so it'll be pretty unconscious to him too but very much, very much there.

Now between the two of you separately... It's very different Martian energies. Yours is rather like the sort of a Mentalist where the receiving party doesn't realize what's going on. And his is operating on a deep and unconscious level where the other party is just confused and not sure what they're seeing.

But I'd still think that his is more 'active' (when separately comparing it) cuz I view his as an unborn sick child affecting his parent too vs. a born child that needs to be dealt with only.

Comparing the two charts would certainly make his stronger. Well first your Mars sits in his eighth so it just gets under his skin sorta. And second your Jupiter squares his Mars so it just makes it more Martian in nature.

posted December 18, 2018 06:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Lol sorry! I hate to blame it on my Mars but I'll have to 😏. But here you go!

First right off the bat, Mercury being your ruling planet and it sextiling Mars, Mars will be integrated with your outward energy aka prominent in your chart.

Your Mars receives a square from Venus, Moon and Neptune and a sextile from Sun and precise trine from Saturn.

It's purposeful in a very smoothly integrated way with the Saturn trine and kind of a tough love situation going on with the square from Moon/Venus but with visible in your face dreaminess I'd assume with the Neptune square. And it's cool that it sextiles your Sun, so it's not just something that appears to people at first and slowly dies off as they get to know you. Like it's actually part of your goings about in life.
And all this energy will be filtered through your Mercury in a 'pleasant' Martian way being the sextile. Especially with Venus in your first.

I'd summarize your Mars as subtle but very much there at the same time. Like good marketing that you don't realize you're being marketed to.

With him, his ruling planet is Moon and also aspecting his Mars, but with the square. That in itself, probably very abrupt emotional energy with which the Cancer prominence probably just amplifies it.

Mars conjunct Jupiter, square Pluto, trine Uranus and sextile Mercury.

Dunno that's like... thinking about it... First the Mars Jupiter conjunction... In Cancer no less... It's pretty aggravated. The Cancer in his chart is very strongly amplified with all this. And squaring Pluto. Probably feels like grappling onto thin air if that's in sight and I wouldn't be surprised if he uses his manipulative abilities on people with the sextile to Mercury, and it (Moon) being in the third house. With the trine to Uranus he probably doesn't feel guilty about it either. For some reason the Uranus and Pluto to Mars makes me feel like there's these sociopathic tendencies. Although I might be completely wrong lol. Cuz I look at it as detached but adamant about bringing that person into this abyss and then just walking off. And his ruling planet Moon probably just evokes pity and 'aww he's so cute' feelings in people with the aspect to Neptune and wider aspect to Venus so yeah not really visible to people but he's pretty darn deep and not such a darling as he appears. Also his Mars in his twelfth conjuncting AC so it'll be pretty unconscious to him too but very much, very much there.

Now between the two of you separately... It's very different Martian energies. Yours is rather like the sort of a Mentalist where the receiving party doesn't realize what's going on. And his is operating on a deep and unconscious level where the other party is just confused and not sure what they're seeing.

But I'd still think that his is more 'active' (when separately comparing it) cuz I view his as an unborn sick child affecting his parent too vs. a born child that needs to be dealt with only.

Comparing the two charts would certainly make his stronger. Well first your Mars sits in his eighth so it just gets under his skin sorta. And second your Jupiter squares his Mars so it just makes it more Martian in nature.

So I'd think it would be fair to say that he's the Mars in this case. If I'm right with my predictions of course that is lol.

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Thanks, Brenda! Is my Mars sextiling Mercury? Because it doesn't show in my natal aspects.

You are right that he can treat people coldly while on surface shows a bundle of cuteness, but he usually does that to people who're not sincere with him in the first place. E.g. if he senses that you plan to take him on a joyride, he will take you on a bigger joyride.

But on this note, can you see how he feels about me from the synastry? Is he also sociopathic to me?

posted December 31, 2022 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
People always says this means cheating. But I have this in my natal chart and I have it with most people in synastry. So am I to avoid most people because of this aspect? I guess everyone I have this with in synastry there will be cheating.

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You don't have the Mars/Neptune square "cheater" aspect... you posted your natal chart in another thread showing that you have Gemini Mars & Capricorn Neptune.

I was involved with a woman who has this natal Mars/Neptune square. She told me that she cheated on each legitimate boyfriend she ever had. Something like six committed relationships.

She told me this fact because I was "the other guy" for her.

Her boyfriend was entirely career focused and didn't have time to satisfy her physical needs and she said she negotiated with him that their relationship would be open. The terms of the agreement were that she would inform her boyfriend if she ever began hooking up with someone. She broke that agreement by never telling him about the relationship she began with me, and I'm confident she believed he would've dumped her if she had told him.

She has Neptune in Capricorn. With Neptune being a "generational" planet, there are a lot of Aries Mars & Libra Mars folks out there with this aspect.

She is the Aries Mars one.

I'm curious as to how this would play out in the Libra Mars / Cap Neptune scenario. The times I've been involved with Libra Mars women, they can do an amazing job of flirting their way into sexual situations but aren't so great with the follow-through.

I haven't been involved with any women who have Virgo Mars or Pisces Mars squaring Neptune in Sagittarius.

Having read many personal accounts of this aspect, it's remarkable how reliable the cheating outcome appears to be.

Regarding this aspect in the composite, this same woman is now dating a man who *also* has natal Aries Mars square Capricorn Neptune, so of course they have it in their composite. The composite also has Saturn/Neptune conjunct, and Venus in opposition, so Mars is making the T-square.

Like her previous boyfriend, this guy spends a lot of time away from her for work, but his Mars/Neptune square concerns me that he may not be so faithful to her. He also has a habit of going out at random to pursue his own interests, but she says she trusts him.