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CuriousV
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posted January 05, 2019 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys and Happy New Year to All!

How would I go about determining the ruler of my 7th house if my ASC is on the cusp? In particular ASC is at 0 degrees of Sagittarius.

My second question is would I need to look at Transits/Natal chart to see what planets are transiting over the ruler of the 7th H to see if there is a high possibility of marriage?

PS I don't have any planets in the 7th H. Is that bad?

Thank you!

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posted January 06, 2019 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Hi guys and Happy New Year to All!

How would I go about determining the ruler of my 7th house if my ASC is on the cusp? In particular ASC is at 0 degrees of Sagittarius.

My second question is would I need to look at Transits/Natal chart to see what planets are transiting over the ruler of the 7th H to see if there is a high possibility of marriage?

PS I don't have any planets in the 7th H. Is that bad?

Thank you!


If you are 100% sure about your birth time then Jupiter is your chart ruler and Mercury is your DSC's ruler (Mercury rules Gemini).

It's not bad at all to have an empty 7th H.. It's actually good enough that you don't have Mars/Saturn/Uranus/Neptune in it.

I can't tell you about transits for sure, I have little experience when it comes to predictions. I think transits to your 7th H and Venus are more important.

Progressed planets Sun/Moon/Venus/Jupiter in hard aspect to natal planets Sun/Moon/Venus/Mars/Jupiter may indicate a relationship or even marriage.
My friend has progressed Jupiter conjucting first her natal Mars (she met her boyfriend) and now it's conjucting her natal Venus and she is getting married. Honestly she didn't have any major transits going on indicating marriage.

If you had a relationship/flirt/fell in love, you can check the transits and progressions for that period of time and see what happened to your natal chart then..

Don't forget that it depends on the native's natal chart. For example no matter what transits and progressions I had in my 7th H I never made a real relationship since I have Uranus, Neptune and North Node in 7th H plus its cusp is in Capricorn.

Similarly if you have Venus/Moon or both of them in Aqua/Cap/Gemini/Sag or in hard aspect to Uranus/Saturn love relationships may be a bit more difficult for you in different ways depending on the aspects/signs.

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posted January 06, 2019 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've Moon/Neptune/Valentine in 7H and Jupiter is transiting it now. t.Jupiter is also opposing Venus in 1H and square Mars in 11H.

Is it good or bad?

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posted January 06, 2019 04:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for capricorncheriscty     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe you don't need anything hitting your 7th ruler at this current point in time. I have seen every since Uranus went into Taurus (and will go back again), many people getting engaged and married at lightning speed, almost out of nowhere...Taurus Venus/2nd house is a marriage house/sign so it makes sense. Uranus is sporadically popping up these weddings and engagements. It's like every week we hear about a new random celebrity couple getting engaged/married and even in our own social circles it is the same situation. Erratic and sporadic marriages popping up everywhere! A lot of these people, I have seen no 7th house connections tying into these random marriages. It's just the power of tUranus at play. So, maybe you can get married within this time frame just off of that lol.

And to answer the other question, I don't think it is bad to not have anything in the 7th natally. It just means this is less likely to be of focus in your daily life from birth and more likely to pop up in your daily life through transit and progression. 7th house matters are not ingrained in you natally, but will come as time goes on.

And I also don't really think the aspect matters at this point when it comes to marriage by transit. From what I've seen, you can have just about any aspect hitting your love planets and angle planets through transit and get married, no matter how harsh or soft the aspect is. But in that same sense, you can have just about any aspect hitting your love planets and angle planets through transit and not get married, no matter how harsh or soft the aspect. It seems more like a state of mind. If you are in a relationship and both willing to commit and there is something via transit helping push your commitment, then it will happen. There doesn't seem to be a specific aspect between planets to describe the phenomenon of marriage a la transit. Sorry if I can't help there.

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posted January 06, 2019 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you so much for your input, Plut0nian and Capricorncher!

So sounds like I may have a hard time then because my Moon is in Capricorn as well as having a square of Venus to Jupiter

Oh OK...so it's not transits but rather progressed aspects that would show a possibility of a commitment? How would I know what progressed planets I have at this time?

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posted January 07, 2019 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted January 07, 2019 02:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just went on Astro and chose Natal with Progressed Chart. Is this the right chart to use? If so, would anyone please comment on what you see in terms of a possible long-term commitment or marriage this year? Thanks a million!

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posted January 08, 2019 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Guys? Todd, Orange, Ami Anne? Anyone else who knows about this topic and can offer their insight? Thank you!

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posted January 08, 2019 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Thank you so much for your input, Plut0nian and Capricorncher!

So sounds like I may have a hard time then because my Moon is in Capricorn as well as having a square of Venus to Jupiter

Oh OK...so it's not transits but rather progressed aspects that would show a possibility of a commitment? How would I know what progressed planets I have at this time?



It's both transits and progressed chart, also solar return and solar arc. I know..
The guy that helped me for 3 years (he actuallly predicted everything) was using transits, progressions and solar return. He was very good.

on astro com you can choose the natal chart and transits and progressions.

Have you ever had a relationship or smth close to that? If yes why don't you check transits and progressions for that period?
That way you will see what triggered it

I see that you have many planets in 11th and 9th H of Aqua and Sag.
No your Moon in Capricorn is not enough by itself to deny relationships.

I don't see a chart that indicates no relationships at all.
You don't even have Uranian energy almost at all.

I see though that all your love/sex planets meaning Moon, Venus and Mars are in bad condition (fall/detriment), it might indicate problems with relationships for the native, that I'm not aware of.

Remember the friend I told you that she is getting married this month?
The day she's getting married transit Jupiter is conjucting exact her 7th H cuspm
Also the date doctors have predicted she will gibe birth to her baby is when transit Jupiter will conjuct her natal Moon in 7th H.
I just checked her chart.

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posted January 08, 2019 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We look at transits to see potential for relationships/love or commitment etc.
You have natal Saturn tightly conjunct your DSC ruler do that’s a bummer. Delays or prevents a marriage or relationships or just gives struggles/blockages and obstacles.

Hmm, so you wanna look at the outer planets. Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter are the main ones I always see.
You want to have at least 2 of these or all transiting your 5th or 7th houses or aspecting your rulers of these houses especially a conjunction. Also your natal Venus conjunct Jupiter or Saturn or trine these is a big one.

So I think when transit Jupiter is in early Capricorn, making a trine to your 7th ruler mercury and sextile your natal Venus, that’s a good window of opportunity when you may meet someone new. Saturn is also going to be hovering around cap, so conjunct your moon which is significant as well.
Check your chart for when transit Venus/mars is in your 5th or 7th when transit Jupiter in cap is around 0-10 degrees. Hopefully when it is, transit Venus is in one of those houses and also making some positive aspects for you and hopefully you meet someone 😊

Make sure you go out and socialize during that time! That’s your best best for quite awhile....

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posted January 08, 2019 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:

It's both transits and progressed chart, also solar return and solar arc. I know..
The guy that helped me for 3 years (he actuallly predicted everything) was using transits, progressions and solar return. He was very good.

on astro com you can choose the natal chart and transits and progressions.

Have you ever had a relationship or smth close to that? If yes why don't you check transits and progressions for that period?
That way you will see what triggered it

I see that you have many planets in 11th and 9th H of Aqua and Sag.
No your Moon in Capricorn is not enough by itself to deny relationships.

I don't see a chart that indicates no relationships at all.
You don't even have Uranian energy almost at all.

I see though that all your love/sex planets meaning Moon, Venus and Mars are in bad condition (fall/detriment), it might indicate problems with relationships for the native, that I'm not aware of.

Remember the friend I told you that she is getting married this month?
The day she's getting married transit Jupiter is conjucting exact her 7th H cuspm
Also the date doctors have predicted she will gibe birth to her baby is when transit Jupiter will conjuct her natal Moon in 7th H.
I just checked her chart.


Thank you Plut0nian for chipping in once again! I was confused as to what to look for because I did look at my chart way back when I was married. I didn't see anything that was aspecting either 5th or 7th H or maybe I just don't know what to look at? And I have no idea how to make sense of anything on the solar Arc so I don't even bother looking at it

And yeah, you are right that I have a difficult time with relationships but I know it's my own issues which I had to face last year, was a pretty tough year that was like an accelerated awakening. But still, I wanted to see if you guys could point at anything in my chart because it's been more than 15 years since I got divorced (married super young at 20!) and it's been nothing but a roller coaster since then....I am feeling cursed at this point or like there is something that has blocked my meaningful relationships flow

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posted January 08, 2019 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
We look at transits to see potential for relationships/love or commitment etc.
You have natal Saturn tightly conjunct your DSC ruler do that’s a bummer. Delays or prevents a marriage or relationships or just gives struggles/blockages and obstacles.

Hmm, so you wanna look at the outer planets. Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter are the main ones I always see.
You want to have at least 2 of these or all transiting your 5th or 7th houses or aspecting your rulers of these houses especially a conjunction. Also your natal Venus conjunct Jupiter or Saturn or trine these is a big one.

So I think when transit Jupiter is in early Capricorn, making a trine to your 7th ruler mercury and sextile your natal Venus, that’s a good window of opportunity when you may meet someone new. Saturn is also going to be hovering around cap, so conjunct your moon which is significant as well.
Check your chart for when transit Venus/mars is in your 5th or 7th when transit Jupiter in cap is around 0-10 degrees. Hopefully when it is, transit Venus is in one of those houses and also making some positive aspects for you and hopefully you meet someone 😊

Make sure you go out and socialize during that time! That’s your best best for quite awhile....


Thank you so much for your input, Lulanscariot!

Aahhh this sounds pretty gloomy since I can't do anything about Saturn being on my Mercury I was married and divorced once, very young, before 25.

And it sounds like I am out of luck since it's gonna be a very long time before either transiting Saturn or Pluto reach my 5th or 7th H....I really feel cursed at this point...I know I already said it in my previous post but it's really discouraging and I am losing all hope of finding a life partner at this point. I'd like to have a family but I am already 40 so just being realistic and it makes me pretty depressed Sorry for venting, thank you again for your insights!!

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posted January 08, 2019 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LunaIscariot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I still think you have a good shot of meeting some significant if not when I said before, then probably when transit Jupiter goes into your 5th house cusp in early Taurus, this will trine your 7th ruler mercury in Virgo and also oppose your natal Venus. Also will probably hit your natal mars (5th ruler) as well. So that’s big. I think transit Saturn and or Pluto will also be in early aqua at this time when Jupiter is in Taurus, and this will square your natal Venus at the same time which can bring commitment/long term relationships even in a challenging aspect like a square. So I think this will surely bring someone in. And your last hope would be when Jupiter goes into your 7th. A year later.

I still think you have a shot with these 3 upcoming timeframe and transits I mentioned, especially the Jupiter in Taurus one. So please stay optimistic. It’s not going to fall into your lap, make sure you’re actively looking and putting yourself out there and taking care of yourself in the meantime

Good luck and keep us updated if you can!

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posted January 08, 2019 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
I still think you have a good shot of meeting some significant if not when I said before, then probably when transit Jupiter goes into your 5th house cusp in early Taurus, this will trine your 7th ruler mercury in Virgo and also oppose your natal Venus. Also will probably hit your natal mars (5th ruler) as well. So that’s big. I think transit Saturn and or Pluto will also be in early aqua at this time when Jupiter is in Taurus, and this will square your natal Venus at the same time which can bring commitment/long term relationships even in a challenging aspect like a square. So I think this will surely bring someone in. And your last hope would be when Jupiter goes into your 7th. A year later.

I still think you have a shot with these 3 upcoming timeframe and transits I mentioned, especially the Jupiter in Taurus one. So please stay optimistic. It’s not going to fall into your lap, make sure you’re actively looking and putting yourself out there and taking care of yourself in the meantime

Good luck and keep us updated if you can!


Yes, of course, I've been pretty proactive, minus the last 6 months of 2018 when it was a very transformational period in my life and I was a total hermit...but I've been going out on dates for years, just not meeting people who spark a mutual soul/mind/body connection that I am looking for.

I just looked at the transits for Jupiter and it's not going to be in Taurus until mid spring of 2023....I am going to be almost 45 at that point but thank you for your encouragement, Lunalscariot!

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posted January 08, 2019 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Thank you Plut0nian for chipping in once again! I was confused as to what to look for because I did look at my chart way back when I was married. I didn't see anything that was aspecting either 5th or 7th H or maybe I just don't know what to look at? And I have no idea how to make sense of anything on the solar Arc so I don't even bother looking at it

And yeah, you are right that I have a difficult time with relationships but I know it's my own issues which I had to face last year, was a pretty tough year that was like an accelerated awakening. But still, I wanted to see if you guys could point at anything in my chart because it's been more than 15 years since I got divorced (married super young at 20!) and it's been nothing but a roller coaster since then....I am feeling cursed at this point or like there is something that has blocked my meaningful relationships flow


Ohhh.. I see
So you indeed had a relationship

You know what don't bother with solar returns and arcs.
Check just transits of the slower planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto) and aspects of progressed Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter to your natal Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter and DSC.
Treat pregressed planets on your natal chart like they are transits.

If you remember the date you got married would you like to post your transits and progressions for that date?

If yes then choose "natal transits and progressions combined" on astro.com

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posted January 08, 2019 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Ohhh.. I see
So you indeed had a relationship

You know what don't bother with solar returns and arcs.
Check just transits of the slower planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto) and aspects of progressed Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter to your natal Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter and DSC.
Treat pregressed planets on your natal chart like they are transits.

If you remember the date you got married would you like to post your transits and progressions for that date?

If yes then choose "natal transits and progressions combined" on astro.com


Thank you for looking more into this, Plut0nian! Trying to stay optimistic but finding it harder with each passing year since I do wanna have family/kids and I'm 40.

Here is the chart for the date I got married on 12/31/1998. If it helps, we met in February of that year and it became solidified in the summer leading to getting married at the end of the year.


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posted January 08, 2019 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Ohhh.. I see
So you indeed had a relationship

You know what don't bother with solar returns and arcs.
Check just transits of the slower planets (Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Pluto) and aspects of progressed Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter to your natal Sun, Moon, Venus, Jupiter and DSC.
Treat pregressed planets on your natal chart like they are transits.

If you remember the date you got married would you like to post your transits and progressions for that date?

If yes then choose "natal transits and progressions combined" on astro.com


Also, I just looked at the transits you mentioned - Saturn, Pluto, Jupiter and Uranus from today all through this year and it looks the same as it is currently:

Jupiter in my 1st H in Sag
Saturn and Pluto in my 2nd in Cap
Uranus in my 5th in Taurus

I don't know much about the meanings of all this other than 5th H is relationships, so maybe having Uranus there is somewhat promising?

And I have no idea what to look for when I am looking at progressed Sun, Moon, Jupiter and Venus. Do the need to hit 5th or 7th H or conjunct my natal Sun, Moon or Venus or what exactly am I looking for?

PS Thanks a million again, Plut0nian, and to anyone who is willing to chip in!!

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posted January 08, 2019 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys!

Can't remember if someone on here mentioned this or maybe I read it somewhere but would Transiting Mars in conjunct with transiting Venus over my DSC ruler indicate a high chance of something important like a pregnancy or marriage?

It's just while I was playing with different dates to see what transits I can expect this year, I noticed that I will have Mars and Venus conjunct in Virgo and passing/conjuncting my Mercury (my 7th H ruler) at the end of August. Thoughts?

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posted January 09, 2019 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CuriousV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Can anyone else offer their insights? Thank you!

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posted January 09, 2019 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Plut0nian2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Thank you for looking more into this, Plut0nian! Trying to stay optimistic but finding it harder with each passing year since I do wanna have family/kids and I'm 40.

Here is the chart for the date I got married on 12/31/1998. If it helps, we met in February of that year and it became solidified in the summer leading to getting married at the end of the year.


Ok I see that the time you got married

• Transit Jupiter was opposing your Sun

• Transit Saturn was opposing your Mars

• Transit Neptune was opposing your natal Jupiter

• Progressed Moon was conjucting your Pluto in 10th H

• Transit Jupiter was about to enter your 4th H while at the same time T. Saturn was about to exit your 4th H.

How did you not have children when T.Jupiter or T.Saturn entered your 5t h H?

T.Jupiter is going to square your natal Sun and conjuct your natal Neptune so maybe at that point you may find someone since it's very similar to what happened when you got married but we need to know if the progressed Moon is going to make a hard aspect to your Pluto again or even to your natal Jupiter.
(If I remember correctly progressed Moon is going to be in Leo but I don't know if it's the same period)


Transit Mars may bring an opportunity but I don't consider it something reliable. Mars changes signs every about 2 years unless it goes retrogate which may take more than 2 years. This means that the same exact aspects happen at least once in 3-4 years maximum.
It is even more frequently than that actually if you consider that there are two different signs that will trine/sextile/square the same planet until Mars goes through every sign once.

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Thank you so much, Plut0nian for analyzing the chart when I got married. Interesting that you asked about us not having kids...I actually wanted to have kids, but he didn't at that time. Looking back, thank God that didn't happen because that would be a disaster....we didn't have much living together so was not much to split/divide and even then, he dragged out our divorce for like 8 months. I can only imagine what it would've been like if we had a kid together.

The reason why I am asking all these questions is because I did meet someone recently, actually two men. Both seem to be very serious and know exactly what they want (marriage, kids, etc.). Both are very interested in progressing a relationship with me. I like both of them, but they are totally different, although similar in the way they approach life, their energy - both are fire signs. I feel like there is coming a point where I would need to make a decision as to which one of them I want to continue exploring a relationship with.

As much as I enjoy getting to know both of them, there is something in me that makes me a bit wary/apprehensive...and I can't figure out if that's something that just isn't compatible between us/synastry or if it's just me being overly cautious due to recently having a very traumatic relationship/breakup where the guy totally crushed and burned me and it took me months to recover and heal.

One guy is a Sag/Cap cusp and the other one is a Leo. The first guy has a similar synastry to my ex husband (Sag Stellium)so maybe that's why I am subconsciously sabotaging myself? The Leo guy exudes similar traits to my first love boyfriend. I like seeing that he is very much into me but I don't feel like I am super attracted to him physically...but again, both of them are very serious about taking this to the next level...

I looked at my synastry with the Sag and we have Sun/Saturn square and from what I read, it can feel very restrictive and Sun would feel criticized (I have an issue with that, paradox I know, being a Virgo, lol). There seems to be some other harsh Saturn aspects going on from my side to his Venus, Neptune....but so far, our communication has been very lovely...but I can sense that he is definitely more into me than I am into him.

With the Leo guy, his Saturn opposes my Mars and his Mars opposes my Moon. Is that bad??

Buy I guess the main thing that I've noticed for both synastries is the fact that I don't have Venus/Mars aspects with either of them. Is this what makes me feel kinda lukewarm about them but not passionate towards them?

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