posted January 15, 2019 09:35 PM            

Have you ever experienced a loss when it comes to your Ceres placement? Perhaps through the parent, or perhaps in a relationship?

For instance, Ceres conjunct Venus in synastry (from experience), feels wonderfully caring and nurturing. However losing it through drifting apart has felt like an immense loss, full of grief and heartbreak.

posted January 16, 2019 05:35 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
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posted January 16, 2019 11:38 PM            

He wants to talk about others and specifically their Ceres synastry-type relationships.

He wasn't wanting a broad discussion of Ceres and Losses people might have experienced.

(Implosions, so sorry if you've experienced a recent break-up, that you've tied to someone else's Venus in aspect with your Ceres? )

Hope people can give you some good relationship advice?

posted January 16, 2019 11:53 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Why's that, Sassaqua?

He wants to talk about others and specifically their Ceres synastry-type relationships.

He wasn't wanting a broad discussion of Ceres and Losses people might have experienced.

(Implosions, so sorry if you've experienced a recent break-up, that you've tied to someone else's Venus in aspect with your Ceres? )

Hope people can give you some good relationship advice?

(music) How Do You Heal a Broken Heart (Chris Walker) [4:09] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ci5sW3sCLI

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Thanks, mirage! I can definitely change this to a more general question of Ceres and loss, I guess, hm.

posted January 17, 2019 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Can Ceres conjunct Venus in composite also create such a connection?

I know I cannot bear to leave him at all...not at all...

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I would say so, yes. I have the Venus/Ceres conjunction as well, in the 6th house in composite, and it's right on the DC (and conjunct the Sun and such in the 7th).

I have spent many nights in heartbreak over this- even when I should be mad or upset about something!

posted January 17, 2019 05:01 PM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Dang!!!!!!!!!
I hit the wrong button, and it *poofed* all my careful work. argggh. LOL

I'll redo it!!! Be back later...

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posted January 17, 2019 06:09 PM            

Demetra George, Douglas Bloch
Asteroid Goddesses
- http://www.amazon.com/Asteroid-Goddesses-Mythology-Psychology-Re-Emerging/dp/0892540826

quoting, pages 72 and 73
CERES-VENUS ASPECTS
The nurturing principle {Ceres}
combines with {conjuncts}
the feminine principle of love and sexuality. {Venus}

The individual with a Ceres-Venus contact may link the 'feeling' of being attractive and loved, to subconscious images of self-worth.

Harmonious aspects
depict
'the ability to nurture others' through 'expressing sensual tenderness or erotic sexuality'.
These individuals have an 'aesthetic appreciation' that enables them 'to create nurturing and harmonious environments'.
This is an extremely fertile aspect for
physical and artistic creativity.

posted January 18, 2019 03:35 AM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
I would say so, yes. I have the Venus/Ceres conjunction as well, in the 6th house in composite, and it's right on the DC (and conjunct the Sun and such in the 7th).

I have spent many nights in heartbreak over this- even when I should be mad or upset about something!

Though I had a thought about this last night; perhaps we need to look at how our own Ceres is doing in our charts and person. If something is amiss there, it can affect how strongly this interaction goes. It definitely needs some detachment, I think.

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Our comp Venus is also conjunct Sun, and Psyche is in conjunction with Venus-Ceres. All in Cancer. In fact, we have a whole lot of planets in that sign + Moon/NN in Scorpio so the whole relationship feels so intense and emotional.

The thing is my Ceres in natal oppose Uranus which means I eject when I sense something's not right. But in this case, I wasn't able to eject. 😢 I'm afraid of the grief and sorrow.

posted January 18, 2019 02:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Our comp Venus is also conjunct Sun, and Psyche is in conjunction with Venus-Ceres. All in Cancer. In fact, we have a whole lot of planets in that sign + Moon/NN in Scorpio so the whole relationship feels so intense and emotional.

The thing is my Ceres in natal oppose Uranus which means I eject when I sense something's not right. But in this case, I wasn't able to eject. 😢 I'm afraid of the grief and sorrow.

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Ah yes, all in Cancer would definitely make it quite emotional-based! But with Psyche there, I would guess that it's gonna play out in some way whether anyone wants it to or not. Psyche has a lot to do with the soul's journey.

And don't worry about Uranus/Ceres opp! You're aware of it, and you might know when you feel the urge to eject, and know consciously what to do with the energy (or just when it's time to move on). You can also communicate these feelings/issues to the person in question if need be. I have the square between Ceres and Uranus (which square and opp my Moon, no less) so I feel you! I tend to do a backflip out of a situation I start feeling uneasy in- and Ceres/Venus issues definitely triggered that.

posted January 21, 2019 09:23 AM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Ah yes, all in Cancer would definitely make it quite emotional-based! But with Psyche there, I would guess that it's gonna play out in some way whether anyone wants it to or not. Psyche has a lot to do with the soul's journey.

And don't worry about Uranus/Ceres opp! You're aware of it, and you might know when you feel the urge to eject, and know consciously what to do with the energy (or just when it's time to move on). You can also communicate these feelings/issues to the person in question if need be. I have the square between Ceres and Uranus (which square and opp my Moon, no less) so I feel you! I tend to do a backflip out of a situation I start feeling uneasy in- and Ceres/Venus issues definitely triggered that.

I would say as well, since Moon is with the NN in Scorpio ... You're definitely in this to feel new feelings Don't be afraid of the urge to run! Be aware of it, play with it a little (in a 'I'll wait just a few minutes longer than usual before reacting, see what happens) in baby steps. I find that helps! Uranus/Ceres isn't necessarily a bad interaction, either. It just means Ceres' needs are a little unconventional!

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Ya, I keep wondering what Psyche will bring us. I hope it won't be something too painful... 😥

I used to do lotsa "ejecting" but this time I'm trying not to, and to just wait it out... but sometimes it feels like river rafting... wondering if the boat will capsize.

This is the first time I'm in a relationship with so many water planets...emotions run high and we can go through 4 seasons in 1 night! And that Scorpio Moon...oooh...it is said that couples with composite Moon in 5H always have fun and the feelings are light. While it's true but when it's coloured by Scorpio, feelings run deep and penetrating often. No grey areas are allowed. I'm not sure if it's due to the fact that Moon is conjunct NN.

posted January 21, 2019 03:00 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ya, I keep wondering what Psyche will bring us. I hope it won't be something too painful... 😥

I used to do lotsa "ejecting" but this time I'm trying not to, and to just wait it out... but sometimes it feels like river rafting... wondering if the boat will capsize.

This is the first time I'm in a relationship with so many water planets...emotions run high and we can go through 4 seasons in 1 night! And that Scorpio Moon...oooh...it is said that couples with composite Moon in 5H always have fun and the feelings are light. While it's true but when it's coloured by Scorpio, feelings run deep and penetrating often. No grey areas are allowed. I'm not sure if it's due to the fact that Moon is conjunct NN.

Seems like we're here to build a deep emotional attachment, perhaps even create something together being in 5H?

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Psyche can be a tough spot, as it can indicate tough trials and tribulations to go through- the soul's journey isn't always an easy one! But then, it wouldn't be worth it if it were easy, so who's to say.

Heavy water isn't always easy either, I hear that! I am water-dominant, and I know very well how it is to work through emotional depth. With heavy water the trick is learning patience and also knowing that time apart is very healthy! If anything, your Uranus/Moon interaction might be helpful here! It's not so much about ejecting as it is learning the healthy balance of going off and doing your own thing when needed, taking a break when things get too emotionally caught up, and reconvening when you're both chilled out again. But communication is key! Scorpio moon needs a lot of reassurance so they don't end up feeling abandoned when things get tough- it's like dealing with a frightened child, in some cases. Or a puppy with separation anxiety!

posted January 21, 2019 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by implosions:
Psyche can be a tough spot, as it can indicate tough trials and tribulations to go through- the soul's journey isn't always an easy one! But then, it wouldn't be worth it if it were easy, so who's to say.

Heavy water isn't always easy either, I hear that! I am water-dominant, and I know very well how it is to work through emotional depth. With heavy water the trick is learning patience and also knowing that time apart is very healthy! If anything, your Uranus/Moon interaction might be helpful here! It's not so much about ejecting as it is learning the healthy balance of going off and doing your own thing when needed, taking a break when things get too emotionally caught up, and reconvening when you're both chilled out again. But communication is key! Scorpio moon needs a lot of reassurance so they don't end up feeling abandoned when things get tough- it's like dealing with a frightened child, in some cases. Or a puppy with separation anxiety!

Having the NN involved too; yep, it's definitely a learning experience. And in the 5th house, sure it can be about learning how to have fun with the emotional depth- healthy intimacy can be absolutely wonderful! But it takes a lot of growing and deep honesty with Scorpio anything. It's hard to say too much without knowing the rest of the chart- for instance, since the 5th house is ruled by the Sun, see how that interacts. And Pluto/Mars, since it's ruled by Scorpio in this case, too. The Moon's aspects in the composite too are very important. Nothing can be based just on one placement.

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Ya, I'm trying not to do the eject thing because usually if I go off, I go OFF. But with this r/s I keep going & coming... I think it's because of the watery placements...it makes me act out more irrationally than usual. I'm not water-dominant but I'm Neptunian so I get too sentimental at times and have a self-bashing tendency. So right now, I'm going through a "he-doesn't-love-me-and-he's-gonna-dump-me" depressive phase, and this makes me wants to eject (again).

I can definitely feel that Scorpio Moon! Constant need for assurance... constant suspicions/possessiveness/jealousy... the fear of losing each other... my Sag Moon cannot handle it at times. Deep honesty, yes! We dig into each others' emotional abyss.

I don't understand why some astrologers say signs don't matter in composite, but I can definitely feel the vibes and I don't have Cancer/Scorpio personal planets. He has Cancer Mars/Asc and Scorpio Juno so I'm guessing he's more comfortable with the energy. My Venus/Asc resonate with our composite Asc though - in Gemini. This little bit of "lightness" is all we have, lol.

I've been trying to find information on our NN in 5th house Scorpio but to no avail. In Synastry, our NNs also fall into each other's 5th. I think the Moon/NN being here in Scorpio (which is into procreation sex) is one reason we feel such a desire to have a child together...against all rationality.

Our comp Sun is in the 1st house trine Moon/Node, conjunct Venus, sextile Juno, but square Pluto/Karma in 4th which is another intense placement.

Mars is in 3rd house sextile Mercury/Uranus, square Jupiter, trine Chiron/Lilith, square Eros.

posted January 21, 2019 11:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ya, I'm trying not to do the eject thing because usually if I go off, I go OFF. But with this r/s I keep going & coming... I think it's because of the watery placements...it makes me act out more irrationally than usual. I'm not water-dominant but I'm Neptunian so I get too sentimental at times and have a self-bashing tendency. So right now, I'm going through a "he-doesn't-love-me-and-he's-gonna-dump-me" depressive phase, and this makes me wants to eject (again).

I can definitely feel that Scorpio Moon! Constant need for assurance... constant suspicions/possessiveness/jealousy... the fear of losing each other... my Sag Moon cannot handle it at times. Deep honesty, yes! We dig into each others' emotional abyss.

I don't understand why some astrologers say signs don't matter in composite, but I can definitely feel the vibes and I don't have Cancer/Scorpio personal planets. He has Cancer Mars/Asc and Scorpio Juno so I'm guessing he's more comfortable with the energy. My Venus/Asc resonate with our composite Asc though - in Gemini. This little bit of "lightness" is all we have, lol.

I've been trying to find information on our NN in 5th house Scorpio but to no avail. In Synastry, our NNs also fall into each other's 5th. I think the Moon/NN being here in Scorpio (which is into procreation sex) is one reason we feel such a desire to have a child together...against all rationality.

Our comp Sun is in the 1st house trine Moon/Node, conjunct Venus, sextile Juno, but square Pluto/Karma in 4th which is another intense placement.

Mars is in 3rd house sextile Mercury/Uranus, square Jupiter, trine Chiron/Lilith, square Eros.

Moon is overall forming nice aspects - besides to NN, it also trine Sun/Mercury/Venus, opposite Jupiter.

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Hm, well overall to me it sounds more like it's a friendly (well, very friendly) relationship that is going to transform you both on personal fronts. It seems more self-oriented (or individual oriented) than say a 7th house makeup. Not to say that doesn't mean it couldn't last, but overall it sounds more like it's something that is supposed to transform you each personally in some way. I've found, in my own relationships like this, that when I feel stressed about 'them', it's a clue to start figuring out what about ME is being triggered. Of course with Pluto, it can feel like moving an entire planet into another direction, but it's usually what the energy wants.

The sun square pluto might be tricky, if just because it means your personal egos/selves are causing the friction of transformation. It's gonna be a bumpy ride, if anything. If you're very Neptunian, I would maybe study up on your own sense of detachment and boundaries- and self care! Neptune types can be a bit blind to what's in front of them without a lot of self-compassion and patience. And a hard look at your own Pluto style.

However, it usually just involves a lot of emotional release, speaking as a heavy Pluto person myself. It 'feels' yucky, but usually just facing the feelings head on and sitting in them (without necessarily taking action on them) will release them.

posted January 23, 2019 12:17 PM            

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Hm, well overall to me it sounds more like it's a friendly (well, very friendly) relationship that is going to transform you both on personal fronts. It seems more self-oriented (or individual oriented) than say a 7th house makeup. Not to say that doesn't mean it couldn't last, but overall it sounds more like it's something that is supposed to transform you each personally in some way. I've found, in my own relationships like this, that when I feel stressed about 'them', it's a clue to start figuring out what about ME is being triggered. Of course with Pluto, it can feel like moving an entire planet into another direction, but it's usually what the energy wants.

The sun square pluto might be tricky, if just because it means your personal egos/selves are causing the friction of transformation. It's gonna be a bumpy ride, if anything. If you're very Neptunian, I would maybe study up on your own sense of detachment and boundaries- and self care! Neptune types can be a bit blind to what's in front of them without a lot of self-compassion and patience. And a hard look at your own Pluto style.

However, it usually just involves a lot of emotional release, speaking as a heavy Pluto person myself. It 'feels' yucky, but usually just facing the feelings head on and sitting in them (without necessarily taking action on them) will release them.

Also Saturn in synastry/composite can indicate the type of longevity of knowing someone.

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Are you saying that because of a lack of 7H emphasis? Actually a lot of relationship charts I've seen don't have a strong 7H, e.g. my parents have Moon in 5H with an emphasis in 10H. My friend has 2 relationships (incl. 1 marriage) with 6H emphasis, so does my aunt & her husband. Another friend and her husband also have a 1H stellium. So I realised that 7H planets (or lack of) is not a strong indication of whether the relationship is made of love or friendship.

An opposite e.g. my bestie and my guy (they know each other) have a whole stellium in 7H and Venus in 8H! If I show you their chart, you will think they're lovers, lol.

I read up on Sun in 1H. It can make 2 people too dependent on the relationship and neglect self-growth as they feel stronger as a unit. Extracted from cafe astrology: "You feel a strong sense of purpose as a couple. You have come together for a feeling of strength. The main challenge of this position is potential dependency on the relationship itself, as it feels almost like a lifeline."

Venus in 1H simply means we're very expressive of our feelings for each other, which is very true in our case. We're very expressive and demonstrative with each other.

posted January 23, 2019 04:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Are you saying that because of a lack of 7H emphasis? Actually a lot of relationship charts I've seen don't have a strong 7H, e.g. my parents have Moon in 5H with an emphasis in 10H. My friend has 2 relationships (incl. 1 marriage) with 6H emphasis, so does my aunt & her husband. Another friend and her husband also have a 1H stellium. So I realised that 7H planets (or lack of) is not a strong indication of whether the relationship is made of love or friendship.

An opposite e.g. my bestie and my guy (they know each other) have a whole stellium in 7H and Venus in 8H! If I show you their chart, you will think they're lovers, lol.

I read up on Sun in 1H. It can make 2 people too dependent on the relationship and neglect self-growth as they feel stronger as a unit. Extracted from cafe astrology: "You feel a strong sense of purpose as a couple. You have come together for a feeling of strength. The main challenge of this position is potential dependency on the relationship itself, as it feels almost like a lifeline."

Venus in 1H simply means we're very expressive of our feelings for each other, which is very true in our case. We're very expressive and demonstrative with each other.

We're both quite Neptunian actually, but I'm more. We can both get very compassionate yet unrealistic together. My 5H Pluto makes me very plutonic in love so I find myself swinging between the two. I'd say he has a stronger pluto though. Actually what the Sun-Pluto did to us is there's always an urge to address issues up front and immediately. The exchanges can be very emotional & intense but we always walk away knowing each other's deepest thoughts. It can be stormy, I agree, but it is not w/o its rewards. I kinda like Pluto-Sun actually. It helps us to address issues which Neptune normally avoids.

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posted January 24, 2019 02:08 AM            

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Nah, I didn't mean specifically of the placements. Just what your describing to me feels like something more than (or slightly other than) a romantic relationship. Not to say that can't happen, my gut just tells me it's meant for some other purpose, over all.

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I'm curious...which part of my post gives you the impression this is platonic? 😅 But honestly we started off not knowing it will take us this deep. We just know we're mutually attracted and we feel very happy in each other's company... so we didn't think much... just enjoy what we have... and before we know it, we found ourselves in a deep emotional attachment. We have our issues but the thought of losing each other feels sorrowful. We tried twice. We failed. That's why I came to this thread to read about Ceres and loss. I told him I will grief. He told me he'll never forget me and refused to delete my contact or stop going to the place where he knows he'll see he. I'm more "heartless" when it comes to cutting, but he doesn't see that my heart is bleeding.

We do a lot of the push/pull passive-aggressive thing Cancer is (in)famous for, and we realised we care about each other a lot and whether the other party cares about us. And with him frequently talking about the baby thing... it feels irrational to me but again a very Cancerian feature.

Btw, you mentioned Uranus/Moon in your earlier post. We don't have that aspect. What about it?

posted January 24, 2019 02:29 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I'm curious...which part of my post gives you the impression this is platonic? 😅 But honestly we started off not knowing it will take us this deep. We just know we're mutually attracted and we feel very happy in each other's company... so we didn't think much... just enjoy what we have... and before we know it, we found ourselves in a deep emotional attachment. We have our issues but the thought of losing each other feels sorrowful. We tried twice. We failed. That's why I came to this thread to read about Ceres and loss. I told him I will grief. He told me he'll never forget me and refused to delete my contact or stop going to the place where he knows he'll see he. I'm more "heartless" when it comes to cutting, but he doesn't see that my heart is bleeding.

We do a lot of the push/pull passive-aggressive thing Cancer is (in)famous for, and we realised we care about each other a lot and whether the other party cares about us. And with him frequently talking about the baby thing... it feels irrational to me but again a very Cancerian feature.

Btw, you mentioned Uranus/Moon in your earlier post. We don't have that aspect. What about it?

I saw your other post and I'm actually quite confused what relationship it is because it sounds like so many people are involved. 🧐 It seems much more plutonic than ours though.

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I said friendly, not necessarily platonic <3 I may have a different experience with what these types of relationships mean to me than most people however, so you take it how it feels to you!

That does sound very Cancerian, phew. -- The Uranus/Moon was more in reference to what you said about yourself, not the aspects between you both. (I think I mentioned it because of my own, relating to how you have yours, etc).

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Originally posted by implosions:
I said friendly, not necessarily platonic <3 I may have a different experience with what these types of relationships mean to me than most people however, so you take it how it feels to you!

That does sound very Cancerian, phew. -- The Uranus/Moon was more in reference to what you said about yourself, not the aspects between you both. (I think I mentioned it because of my own, relating to how you have yours, etc).

The heavy 7th house post? Ah, yep that's just one person! I was referencing them in this post as well. It's no more than two people (though with my Gemini placements haha, maybe it's three of us!). It's definitely Plutonic in my case, but I think anything I do or interact with is Plutonic since that's just me.

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I don't have Moon-Uranus. I have Uranus-Ceres.

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I don't have Moon-Uranus. I have Uranus-Ceres.

Yes, your post... sounds like so many people. LOL. Do you have lotsa Gemini? I have it in Venus/Asc. I think the omitting of 'he/she' in your post is very typical Scorpio (haha)... secrecy.

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Whoops! Yeah I fudged that then. Maybe I got mixed up thinking about my own Uranus/Moon haha, my bad.

Just Moon and Mars, doubled I guess since they're also in my third house, but my Mercury is also conjunct my Sun-Stellium, so who knows how much it feels like it to others haha.

posted February 01, 2019 09:09 AM            

I did a little study recently which focussed upon Ceres and found a cycle of great success, a fall from grace and then a rebuild. It fascinated me. It wasn't present in all cases, but it's like the purity of Ceres is important. That love has to be behind the choices in order for karma not to take hold.

I suppose this brings an element of sacrifice to mind, but the parallel is more of the ancient oak tree. I'll write a study of Ceres when I've got more clarity. :-)

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