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curiouswoman
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posted July 03, 2012 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars square neptune in synastry? how did you xperience it or what do you know about it?

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Doux Rêve
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posted July 03, 2012 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I haven't experienced it myself but my sister has it DW with her boyfriend. They've been together for a little over a year now and it seems good so far. I don't know how it plays out for them (sexual fantasies? lol) but they seem to be happy together so I guess it works for them. They have Mars conjunct Neptune in the composite by the way.

But they also have easy Saturn aspects which helps them stay grounded and committed.

It is usually said that the Mars person is turned on by Neptune's seeming "helplessness", like the prince who wants to save the damsel in distress or something. But that same Mars can also get angry at Neptune because Neptune can be confused, play the martyr or just be indecisive as to what's next.. Of course it's usually a very sexual/magnetic connection and the Mars person can be quite fascinated by the Neptune person who represents a silent promise of sexual/erotic ecstasy.

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posted July 03, 2012 07:21 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Doux Rêve:
It is usually said that the Mars person is turned on by Neptune's seeming "helplessness", like the prince who wants to save the damsel in distress or something. But that same Mars can also get angry at Neptune because Neptune can be confused, play the martyr or just be indecisive as to what's next.. Of course it's usually a very sexual/magnetic connection and the Mars person can be quite fascinated by the Neptune person who represents a silent promise of sexual/erotic ecstasy.



Very good description!

I just want to mention that with the square the confusion/ frustration-part can get quite volatile, depending on other aspects to that square.
Like Mars can get REALLY upset with Neptune for being so evasive. And Neptune might be extra evasive to not upset Mars anymore, which is of course what happens.

The problem is that sometimes, to put it bluntly, Mars wants sex, and Neptune wants a spiritual connection or even a dream.

If there are other attraction-aspects, it can simply heighten the erotic fantasies (though probably the consummation doesn`t always hold what the fantasy promised); but if not things could even turn nasty, because Mars and Neptune are such different energies, and they really need to find a way to work together.

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posted July 03, 2012 07:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Ceri !

I agree with you totally.
It can get quite nasty so both people need to be honest and clear about their expectations.

Sexual frustration comes to mind also. The Neptune person may frustrate the Mars person for whatever reason (spiritual/religious/physical/psychological barriers, etc) which can of course create conflict. By the way, maybe the roles can be reversed also? Like the Mars person plays out the Neptune part and acts elusive? I guess that wouldn't be the natural course of things but it could happen..

But all in all I think it requires some maturity and patience. If the two people are willing to work out on their issues then it can be a beautiful match of creativity, imagination and eroticism.

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posted July 03, 2012 05:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't trust Mars.

In an earlier thread I spoke of the hotness of Mars on Asc. This is still true. However, I have nNaptune sq nAsc, so a conjunction to my Asc will sq my Neptune in synastry.

While I was sexually/magnetically drawn to Mars, I was suspicious and distrustful of the devil's intentions. I felt mars was up to something - to make me look foolish. For this reason I held back. As if I was/am that important, but I entertained all sorts of fantasies of what Mars was plotting.

I flirted. I promised & wanted something more, but my suspicions ruined things. Shame.

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posted July 04, 2012 04:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i totally love your responses, doux and Nine. They do resonate with me a lot.

It`s funny I actually "lknow" someone I share this with. Though, not really knowing.
he`s a local perfomer/ singer, and I`ve been to a few shows (just because he is a bloody good entertainer). I`ve had a chat after a show with him once, I don´t know if he remembers that, and it`s not that important (okay, I´d like to be remembered, yes. my Sun is in 1st house ).
I haven´t been talking to him again though, even though I did have the opportunity. I am not even *really* into him (other than liking his show-qualities), but during several occasions, usually during the intermissions and last year even during the show itself, he appears to be quite near to me, coincidentally cause he was talking to other people and I am not interested int he whole "I adore you so much-fan-business". It´s simply not my style. I like his shows, I sometimes visit them, and that`s it.
But anyway, even though I am quite detached (and surprised at how easily I get his attention, by just sitting there), the moment he is in my physical proximity, something shifts. He makes me REALLY nervous, when he is just physically near.
In one of the last shows, he avoided being on stage and for much of the time was performing / singing from the aisle, which is just his style I think. He likes getting in touch with his audience. But he really didn´t have to do his show from exactly beside my seat, with his hands resting on the back of my chair for most of the song, definitely too close for comfort. And not really keeping to the social distance zones.
I am still pondering if he was doing on purpose to shake my comfort. lol

Anyway, most of it is just for the sake of the show, I am sure of it; still I feel there is a "weird athmosphere" between us, and has been even on that first time I met him and we had that chat. (Even then he was standing far too close for comfort; and it is not that he is doing that all the time; I have seen him talking to others and is certainly able to not invade THEIR personal and intimate zone).

So the weirdness really is that undefined "connection". We don´t really know each other (as he is a performer and I am audience), but somehow the distance that usually would be there, isn´t there (which has much to do with his personality I guess).

To be honest he confuses the hell out of me. On the other hand I am even more evasive towards him than I am usually, and my own reactions confuse me even more than he does. to summarize it: I feel very confused around him; I want to stay invisible, and he sees me.

Long confused story for the astrology behind it which I will post in my next post


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posted July 04, 2012 05:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Two natal squares combine with each other in the synastry.


he has Mars-Jupiter-conjunction in Virgo in 6th house, squaring Mercury in Sagittarius in 9th house
(Mars rules his intercepted 1st house, Jupiter rules his MC, Mercury rules his IC and DESC).
Mutual reception of: Mercury in Sagittarius and Jupiter in Virgo.


I have Neptune conjunct NN in Sag in 1st house conjunct Mars in Sag in 12th house conjunct ASC,
square Jupiter in Pisces in 3rd house
(Neptune rules 3rd house, Mars rules IC, jupiter rules ASC)
mutual reception of: Jupiter in Pisces and Neptune in Sagittarius


synastrically:

his Mars/Jupiter opposes my Jupiter exact
his Mars/Jupiter squares my Neptune/NN exact
his Mars/Jupiter squares my Mars/ASC (though the Mars-Mars-square is on the wide side: 5 degrees)

his Mercury conjunct my Neptune/NN exact
his Mercury conjunct my Mars/ASC
his Mercury square my Jupiter

additionally
his Mars/jupiter trines my Venus widely (4 degrees)

interestingly though his Mars/Jupiter-Mercury-square sort of eases the tension of my natal Venus-Pluto-square (he has one natally as well).
as his Mars/jupiter trines my Venus and his Mercury sextiles my Pluto exactly


Confusing, hu?

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posted July 04, 2012 05:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The other BIG alignment in synastry is:

his Sun/Moon/MC conjunct my Sun/Mercury in my 1st and his 10th house,
squaring his 7th house Saturn
squaring his ASC
(trine his Black Moon Lilith)

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posted July 04, 2012 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting connections, Ceri.

I think the fact that he's got Jupiter in there magnifies things. So it's like confusion x100 lol.

But it'd be interesting to know how your interactions would go if you were actually regularly talking to each other, as in friends. A strong attraction would probably grow!

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posted July 04, 2012 05:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lexyr14     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Doux Rêve
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posted July 04, 2012 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Doux Rêve     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Tsss, edit my name please sweetie, I prefer travelling incognito!

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posted July 05, 2012 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for curiouswoman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey ceridwen. I am mars squaring his neptune i feel as strong attraction towards him and he makes me nervous. you felt the same with him as neptune?

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posted July 05, 2012 11:26 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel a strong attraction/ magnetism I guess. But it surprises and confuses me. It`s like it is an instinctual magnetism, but not romantic or emotional. It`s hard to explain. We would be probably quite incompatible. lol

I am a bit suspicious of it (just like Nine said), and more like wonering: Waht the heck is going on here? Could someone please explain to me, what this is about?


So it is not really a clear, straightforward attraction, more one that knocks me sideways.

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posted July 05, 2012 11:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Doux,

yes, I think Jupiter DOES magnify whatever he touches.
It`s interesting, when he is near, I feel very Sagittarius-like. LIke he brings out this side of me even more than usual.

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posted July 04, 2013 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peachbeigeblue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
if we're gona break it down as mars is how you are when you get mad - how would the neptune person see this?

for example, someone who i have good aspects to their mars i might think it's funny when they get mad... or like even cute.

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posted July 04, 2013 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
peach -

quote:
if we're gona break it down as mars is how you are when you get mad - how would the neptune person see this?
for example, someone who i have good aspects to their mars i might think it's funny when they get mad... or like even cute.


His Mars is square my Neptune.

When he was mad - I started getting philosophical about violence/aggression in general - and criticising him in a round about way... e.g. talking about how disheartening it is that there's no love left in the world and we all hurt each other etc.

Basically preaching him ^ but indirectly.. not to his face.

I have reacted this way before.. in social media.
I would start making posts that were clearly about him (but not to him).. to make him feel guilty about his anger -- or the way he expressed it.

I don't like that I did this ^ and I broke things off anyway

He really annoys me.

But I also have Mars conjunct Neptune in my own chart.. so this conj is technically square his Mars. It's not just my Neptune -- That could be why my response was passive-aggresisve (since my own Mars is in the mix).
A plain Neptune - might just get depressed - rather than 'bite back'.

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posted October 10, 2013 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alma Sun     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars sq Neptune (me Neptune) in synastry and composite

Lots of sexual fantasies and role playing between us, dressing up etc to fit the roles.

He has a lot of hard Neptune aspects in his own chart, while I have none (unless I count a quincunx between Moon & Neptune)

The funny thing about how it plays out for us is, all of our friends and family see us as innocent sexless virgins when we're together, so, we started going along with it. If only they knew!

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"When I get sad, I stop being sad and be awesome instead." — Barney Stinson

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I've had this aspect with two guys. When i was neptune i felt like i easily frustrated him (mars) but i got a feeling he liked me even though he didnt want to. Kinda like he had a weakness for me.
When i was mars, the guy seemed incosistent, always thought he was lying to me or trying to trick me but i was still very drawn to him for some reason. I always wanted to be there for him even when he wouldnt do the same for me. Even if i didn't know the right words to soothe him, i just wamted to hold him or kiss him. I often wanted to tell him i loved him more tham any other girl. (He would always leave when someone better came around)<---------But that could be because of othe neptune aspects we had.

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posted February 07, 2019 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for aamhz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interested in hearing stories. Particularly from Neptune''s POV. I can confirm everything said so far by all, but I would like actual stories.

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posted February 07, 2019 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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