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Topic: Just how bad is moon square moon?
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solarbry
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posted February 16, 2019 10:44 AM
  
...If there’s compatibility in every other aspect?She:
Aries sun
Cancer moon
Pisces mercury
Aries venus (Rx)
Sag mars He:
Leo sun
Libra moon
Cancer mercury
Leo venus
Leo mars I understand how important moon compatilibity is in relationships, but is the lack thereof detrimental? IP: Logged |
Aries23Degrees
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posted February 16, 2019 11:49 AM
Its not bad if there are mitigating factors. IP: Logged |
SleepyDiary
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posted February 16, 2019 12:26 PM
I have that square in those signs with a friend. Its challenging esp for the water moon ime. I think its better to deal with that aspect in a friendship though instead of a romantic one and even then it can be a bit challenging. We even have the same sun and mercury too and some other nice aspects but still that square can get really challenging esp down the road. We are so different emotionally. I am more sensitive and intuitive to her needs and feelings than she is with me so things have been frustrating up the years. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted February 16, 2019 04:41 PM
I agree with SleepyDiaryI have a kind of even more "extreme" example.
My let's say friend's chart is exactly the same as mine (except of the Moon and houses) since she was born 6 days earlier than me. My Moon is in Pisces hers is in Sag.
It's really difficult especially living in the same house with a person who squares your Moon. Also emotionally we are really different. IP: Logged |
vickymadness
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posted February 16, 2019 07:22 PM
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solarbry
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posted February 16, 2019 10:30 PM
I agree with me being more in tune with his needs and feelings than he is with mine. His cancer mercury makes him, to some degree, good at reading at emotions (usually by facial expressions/eyes) but in the end he intellectualizes his emotions and I feel everything. So far, (and it has not been very long,) any disputes we have due to my sensitivity are quickly resolved due to both his diplomacy and my lack of ability to hold grudges (my Aries sun shines more than my Cancer moon in this aspect.) But I’m not sure how long that’d go on in the future. IP: Logged |
hearttreasure
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posted February 16, 2019 11:13 PM
I have the square with my husband, but not making an aspect, only square by sign.I have the square aspect with my brother, and when the tension is high between us, especially recently, the energy vibe is uncomfortable between us. I don't know wether it is because he has Moon square Pluto, but I feel like I can not live at the same house with those energy/him. With my husband, although no matter how bad our fight is, I don't feel those uncomfortable energy between us, but one of us want to leave the scene immediately which can make our issues become bigger. IP: Logged |
MMarie
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posted February 16, 2019 11:59 PM
I have the square by sign with someone but it is actually closer to being a sextile - me being late Leo Moon and them very early Scorpio. I wonder if this makes a difference or if being in other signs still stands out more? I have not been around them enough to tell how it will play out. IP: Logged |
Kannon McAfee
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posted February 17, 2019 12:25 AM
This goes in Interpersonal Astrology. Moving it there.------------------
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LunaIscariot
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posted February 17, 2019 01:08 AM
Post the synastry chart.
It’s in cancer and libra, which is probably one of the easier squares to have. Cancer is Uber sensitive and easily hurt, and libra doesn’t want to upset or hurt anyone’s feelings, they like to be diplomatic and nice. Both these moon signs are understanding as well, and libra can and will accommodate and shouldn’t have any issues catering to moon in cancers moodiness or sensitivity. And cancer moon can benefit from the balanced/calm and rational nature of libra when they get caught up in their emotions. So there shouldn’t be too much issues. Especially since all the others planets are trine by sign. There is still good harmony. But post the charts so we can see aspects and house placements and look at other factors to take into account.
Maybe that libra moon is in a water house and maybe that moon in cancer is conjunct mercury and not as irrational etc. If this square was moon in cancer and say moon in Aries lol now that would be way harder. IP: Logged |
solarbry
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posted February 17, 2019 09:25 AM
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SleepyDiary
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posted February 17, 2019 01:15 PM
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
It's really difficult especially living in the same house with a person who squares your Moon. Also emotionally we are really different.
Exactly. This is why I said I think this is a little better in a friendship rather than in a partnership. Even with my friend we can`t be around each other for too long or too much before we start getting on each others nerves. I think its really important to give each other space with this aspect in synastry. The differences will eventually start to show full time and get really frustrating esp if you are close to that person or have to deal with that person on the regular. I have even had issues with other incompatible moons that aren't even aspecting mine like Leo moons and it always ends up getting more and more frustrating to deal with ime. IP: Logged |
Selenite
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posted February 17, 2019 05:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by solarbry:
...If there’s compatibility in every other aspect?She:
Aries sun
Cancer moon
Pisces mercury
Aries venus (Rx)
Sag mars He:
Leo sun
Libra moon
Cancer mercury
Leo venus
Leo mars I understand how important moon compatilibity is in relationships, but is the lack thereof detrimental?
from these placements alone you guys seem to compliment each other because you both have the incongruous elements of sensitive water placements mixed with fire placements. but they're in different places for each of you, so while the cancer moon may be feeling differently than the libra moon, the libra moon can communicate with their cancer mercury in a way that resonates with the cancer moon. and the pisces mercury certainly helps with that. the libra moon also compliments the ego of the aries sun, and the leo and aries sun have similar egos that support each other. plus those fire venus / mars placements in each of you makes for off the charts compatibility. and anyway, libra and cancer moons are the types to try to make things comfortable for each other. so your square is heavily softened. you have nothing to worry about.
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SleepyDiary
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posted February 17, 2019 05:54 PM
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Originally posted by Selenite:
from these placements alone you guys seem to compliment each other because you both have the incongruous elements of sensitive water placements mixed with fire placements. but they're in different places for each of you, so while the cancer moon may be feeling differently than the libra moon, the libra moon can communicate with their cancer mercury in a way that resonates with the cancer moon. and the pisces mercury certainly helps with that. the libra moon also compliments the ego of the aries sun, and the leo and aries sun have similar egos that support each other. plus those fire venus / mars placements in each of you makes for off the charts compatibility. and anyway, libra and cancer moons are the types to try to make things comfortable for each other. so your square is heavily softened. you have nothing to worry about.
IME it has been like this in the beginning or if we haven't been around each other much lately but its different when we have. Hope it turns out differently for you solarbry he seems like someone you care a lot about.
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Bismarck
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posted February 17, 2019 06:14 PM
What about unaspected moons in synastry? Worse than moon square moon?IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted February 17, 2019 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by SleepyDiary:
Exactly. This is why I said I think this is a little better in a friendship rather than in a partnership. Even with my friend we can`t be around each other for too long or too much before we start getting on each others nerves. I think its really important to give each other space with this aspect in synastry. The differences will eventually start to show full time and get really frustrating esp if you are close to that person or have to deal with that person on the regular. I have even had issues with other incompatible moons that aren't even aspecting mine like Leo moons and it always ends up getting more and more frustrating to deal with ime.
I was actually talking about a friend too hehe. And she would visit me frequently for a few hours.. I don't want to imagine how it would be being with her 24/7 😨 It's like your 'hearts" are so different and I think it's always worse for the more emotional one. The other is just confused. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted February 17, 2019 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
If this square was moon in cancer and say moon in Aries lol now that would be way harder.
True that!
Aries Moon is a nightmare.
Libras Moon are good because of Libra's nature.. Once you realise though how cold a Libra Moon is you will be shocked. He doesn't feel by heart but by his mind. And you realise it late.
Now I'm talking of course as water Moon.
A Libra Moon would be perfect for an airy/fiery Moon of course. My friend who attracts Aries Moon because of her houses, she has Capricorn Moon and it is like hell. Especially when she stays with them for a few hours in the same house. Libra Moon is heaven compared to Aries though indeed. Still I think it's difficult because you would be too irritating libing with someone who squares your Moon. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted February 17, 2019 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by Bismarck:
What about unaspected moons in synastry? Worse than moon square moon?
The only one that comes to mind is my aunt with her current man. They are soon going to break up.
Her Moon in Taurus 25°, his Moon in Gemini 28°. It's is similar to hard aspects they have nothing in common emotionally plus she can't stand being with him in the same house, she gets irritated even though he goes there just for sleeping and eating. I think the only way for non positive Moon-Moon aspects to survive is having tons of other supportive aspects to that Moon.
I don't know if it works fine but it will be best case scenario. IP: Logged |
Bismarck
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posted February 17, 2019 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
The only one that comes to mind is my aunt with her current man. They are soon going to break up.
Her Moon in Taurus 25°, his Moon in Gemini 28°. It's is similar to hard aspects they have nothing in common emotionally plus she can't stand being with him in the same house, she gets irritated even though he goes there just for sleeping and eating. I think the only way for non positive Moon-Moon aspects to survive is having tons of other supportive aspects to that Moon.
I don't know if it works fine but it will be best case scenario.
No no no no. . . In vedic astrology, a man's moon coming after a woman's(counter-clockwise) would be considered NEGATIVE stree deerga. This probably explains why they don't get along. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted February 17, 2019 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by Bismarck:
No no no no. . .In vedic astrology, a man's moon coming after a woman's(counter-clockwise) would be considered NEGATIVE stree deerga. This probably explains why they don't get along.
Oh ok.. Vedic astrology hasn't worked for me at all. So I don't know about it.
However I can see how a Taurus Moon wouldn't get along with a Gemini Moon, they have nothing in common.
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LunaIscariot
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posted February 17, 2019 09:15 PM
Interesting about the Vedic astrology thing lol. My moon is Virgo tropical and in Leo in Vedic. My ex was moon in Scorpio tropical and libra in Vedic. I’ve never gotten along with another human less lol. Fights on the daily.
I get along really well with men with moon in Taurus, cancer or Leo though so might be some truth to this lol.
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Brenda_S
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posted February 17, 2019 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Bismarck:
No no no no. . .In vedic astrology, a man's moon coming after a woman's(counter-clockwise) would be considered NEGATIVE stree deerga. This probably explains why they don't get along.
Weren't they referring to house placements? (According to one particular YouTube video I'm referring to...) IP: Logged |
Bismarck
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posted February 17, 2019 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Interesting about the Vedic astrology thing lol. My moon is Virgo tropical and in Leo in Vedic. My ex was moon in Scorpio tropical and libra in Vedic. I’ve never gotten along with another human less lol. Fights on the daily.
I get along really well with men with moon in Taurus, cancer or Leo though so might be some truth to this lol.
Here's a good video that explains it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYJAczhiGPE That fact that Western astrologers don't also use a vedic compatibility system is beyond me. It doesn't matter how many positive aspects you have to your moon from another person. If your moons aren't compatible, you will NEVER work as a couple. IP: Logged |
Plut0nian2
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posted February 17, 2019 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Interesting about the Vedic astrology thing lol. My moon is Virgo tropical and in Leo in Vedic. My ex was moon in Scorpio tropical and libra in Vedic. I’ve never gotten along with another human less lol. Fights on the daily.
I get along really well with men with moon in Taurus, cancer or Leo though so might be some truth to this lol.
I'm curious now to see your chart if you don't mind posting it
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Bismarck
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posted February 17, 2019 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Weren't they referring to house placements? (According to one particular YouTube video I'm referring to...)
You're thinking of Rasi/Rashi kuta, which uses the same logic, but instead of comparing nakshatra distance from man to woman, it measures house distance from man to woman. Using LunaIscariot's example, her moon is in the 11th position from her exes. Looked at from a different perspective, his moon was in the 3rd house from her moon. If you look here(https://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004/10/marriage-compatibility.html) you'll see that that results in "sorrow" in the long run in ADDITION to the negative effects that come from having negative Stree Deerga. IP: Logged |
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