posted February 24, 2019 06:45 PM            

I didn’t really notice it before until he did something to upset me. I was dismissed immediately.

posted February 25, 2019 01:52 PM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck:
That's up to you. No one can answer that question but you.

You should post the composite/davison though.

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Well, I don't think it's that bad, both the composite and davison. Our synastry is not super terrible either.

So far, it hasn't really bothered me that much because it barely shows up. What usually happens is that when I react to a situation, I feel that he doesn't understand me and shuts me down immediately. But then later on, I realize I also have not communicated properly because I was too overwhelmed by my emotions. I might have that typical female mindset that men should be able to read minds, which I'm still working on fixing. Once I've calmed down though, I am able to get my point across and he is also more empathetic and understanding then. And then he can tell me his side because I can now listen clearly.

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posted February 25, 2019 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
Does he not have a capricorn moon if I remember correctly?

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posted February 25, 2019 01:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Brenda_S:
Jupiter (or perhaps Venus) synastry aspects to your Moon should help.

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posted February 25, 2019 03:52 PM            

This aspect DOES tend to show itself more and more as time goes on though, and becomes more of a problem over time I’ve noticed, once that honeymoon stage is over and people start feeling more comfortable around each other (moon) and also aren’t on their absolute best behaviour anymore and reacting naturally etc.

The main way this aspect shows up is exactly like you described. The moon person feels misunderstood or like the Saturn person is cold and/or critical towards them. Saturn tends to think moon is “immature”, “overreacting” a lot and will act very annoyed, intolerant or dismissive of the moon persons reactions to situations, their feelings or needs. This makes the moon person feel stupid, insecure, unloved/rejected over time. Saturn will sometimes ignore or refuse to even acknowledge or deal with the moon persons “outbursts”. One example off the top of head; seen this happen firsthand at a party once and this girl was upset and crying in the corner and her bf walked up to her, talked to her for maybe 10 seconds and walked away super annoyed and literally said “I’m not dealing with this”. Which of course made her even more upset. He wasn’t even wanting to listen or hear her out. His Saturn was 0 degrees square her moon. It was actually the only square/opposition between them. His Venus and Jupiter was also conjunct her moon but this aspect trumped those after a couple years. He broke up with her “because she was immature”. She wasn’t really actually, if anything he’s more immature! but since he’s Saturn here, that’s HIS perspective/reality towards her in their interactions (synastry).

I’ve seen very similar things described by others in my practice as well.

posted February 25, 2019 08:23 PM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Idk if any one aspect is a “deal breaker” per say, you have to look at everything. And like others have said, other positive aspects to your moon either trine, conjunction or sextile (mainly mercury, Neptune, Jupiter or Venus) or seeing if that moon square Saturn is part of a pattern completion like a t-square would help. And which houses in your natal charts are moon and Saturn ruling etc.

This aspect DOES tend to show itself more and more as time goes on though, and becomes more of a problem over time I’ve noticed, once that honeymoon stage is over and people start feeling more comfortable around each other (moon) and also aren’t on their absolute best behaviour anymore and reacting naturally etc.

The main way this aspect shows up is exactly like you described. The moon person feels misunderstood or like the Saturn person is cold and/or critical towards them. Saturn tends to think moon is “immature”, “overreacting” a lot and will act very annoyed, intolerant or dismissive of the moon persons reactions to situations, their feelings or needs. This makes the moon person feel stupid, insecure, unloved/rejected over time. Saturn will sometimes ignore or refuse to even acknowledge or deal with the moon persons “outbursts”. One example off the top of head; seen this happen firsthand at a party once and this girl was upset and crying in the corner and her bf walked up to her, talked to her for maybe 10 seconds and walked away super annoyed and literally said “I’m not dealing with this”. Which of course made her even more upset. He wasn’t even wanting to listen or hear her out. His Saturn was 0 degrees square her moon. It was actually the only square/opposition between them. His Venus and Jupiter was also conjunct her moon but this aspect trumped those after a couple years. He broke up with her “because she was immature”. She wasn’t really actually, if anything he’s more immature! but since he’s Saturn here, that’s HIS perspective/reality towards her in their interactions (synastry).

I’ve seen very similar things described by others in my practice as well.

But you should post your synastry

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Your example sounds like an extreme example. Maybe the guy's natal chart had something that made him very unable to deal with it? I don't know if he's a water void or something, but I found that a lot of water voids find it difficult to empathize. It's not impossible, but they really have to try hard to do so. Maybe a predominance of earth combined with little to no water placements or hard aspects to the water planets too. He does sound immature for doing that, but maybe she also did not communicate in a way that would get it across to him. I found that communicating logically to my man creates the understanding that wasn't present in the beginning. It usually happens after. Or it could be the guy has Saturn placements himself that he hasn't overcome yet.

Mine usually is able to understand and empathize better in the aftermath when I am able to think and communicate more clearly.

Oh and he's our synastry:

I'm blue, he's red.

posted February 26, 2019 12:00 AM            

You have lots of other balancing, and harmonizing aspects with each other though. A lot more positives than negatives in general. Your Saturn square moon is 2 degree. Which is rather tight, anything under 3 degrees is going to be a pretty dominant/consistent theme throughout your relationship. But what’s a bit more worrying to me is the other things combined with this aspect. The opposite moons with his Jupiter also opposing your moon... plus his mars on your moon. All of this is going to cause more misunderstandings and make him perceive your emotions as blown out of proportion (Jupiter opp moon) more than just his Saturn would. Him as the Mars on your moon could make him more insensitive and abrasive as well towards you. He could get easily irritable and frustrated with you because he’s very reactive to you (mars conjunct your moon), and when he perceives you as being too sensitive/emotional (Jupiter opp your moon) he doesn’t understand it (moon opp moon) and then he can criticize you and become rather cold and insensitive or stonewall you (Saturn square your moon).
You don’t actually have any soft aspects from him to your moon...
Just noticed his Chiron is also tightly square your moon, oowie.

I would prefer to see at least once trine or sextile to your moon from a soft planet like Venus, mercury or Neptune/Jupiter especially since you have such a sensitive tender moon in cancer. All those hard aspects can’t feel too good to your vulnerable moon....

He is rather insensitive himself anyways and not the healthiest emotionally tbh. He probably is way more masculine and comfortable with men and doesn’t connect easily with women. Could even be sexist lol or chauvinistic but that’s more of an extreme but it’s a potential I see in his chart forsure. He has a big grand square of his moon in cap/Jupiter square his own Saturn and opposite his mars and square his Chiron. His moon is detriment by sign and getting hit by 2 of the 3 strongest malefic planets (Saturn and mars). I feel for him. And Chiron has to be there too ugh.
How is his relationship with his mom or the women figures in his life? Just curious....

I can def see why he was drawn to you with your strongly caring and nurturing nature. This is something he probably lacked growing up.

posted February 26, 2019 09:47 AM            

Regarding your story, I just feel it is extreme because you did mention he had nice conjunctions to her moon. I thought that would have offset the square even though the aspect is rather tight.

And about the Saturn-Moon square--that's exactly what I am worried about, the lack of soft aspects to my moon. I'm nowhere near being unhappy with him right now, but I don't know how it is gonna play out in the future. In my own chart, my Moon is pretty strong and only receives sextiles from my Mercury and Venus. I wonder if this would help me survive whatever he throws at me.

He is very intelligent and has been working on himself for the past few years before we dated. He knows he has trouble truly feeling emotions because he has been taught by his abusive father that feelings are for weak people. It didn't help his mother favoured his brother over him because she thought her husband only abused his brother and not him. She had very high expectations and he struggled all his life to gain her approval. He is so not used to love being given freely that to this day, whenever I buy him something he really needs, he still asks me if he has to pay me back. His mom always made him work for what he needs.

posted February 28, 2019 05:34 AM            

The Saturn square shows when I feel that he's behaving in an irresponsible/immature manner. I can then be very critical and I'll push him away. But this only happens when he seriously seriously annoys me. And as Moon, he's very sensitive to what I say.