posted March 18, 2012 11:10 PM              

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Originally posted by ail221:
I thought the Pluto person was usually the one more in control and not obsessive in the relationship versus the moon person. Hmmm It could be another placement.

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posted March 19, 2012 04:21 AM              

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Originally posted by popcorn:
Iam in a moon pluto relationship DW.
His pluto square my moon and my pluto sextile his moon.
After a year togheter I still feel this like healing. Obsessed feelings can heal.

Im not an controlling person and not my boyfriend either.

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posted March 19, 2012 10:46 AM            

His pluto also in exactly parallel to my N moon. His moon in scorpio. His Draconic pluto conj my N moon exactly. Ive an exactly parallel moon-pluto in my Natal.

My boyfriend and I will not use our feelings on jealousy or controlling manner. If I see any tendence like that I will leave. I think he also will do. Im to old to be in an bad relationship. I follow my feelings. Good feelings.

posted March 19, 2012 02:56 PM              

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
My friend and her boyfriend have this aspect in their synastry. She is in obsessed with him but she is controlling, possessive, and easily jealous. Yet she fails to see this. Is this common for the Pluto person not to see what they are doing wrong?

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you have pluto square sun NOT moon http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/002970.html

also pluto trine mars trine venus

I still waiting for you to post the ASPECT GRID for a more detailed analysis in PR forum

posted March 19, 2012 03:50 PM            

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I thought the Pluto person was usually the one more in control and not obsessive

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posted March 19, 2012 03:51 PM            

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Originally posted by popcorn:
KarkaQueen. We are born the same year. Ive moon square pluto also in my natal and he have moon sextile pluto in his natal. Thats make things difference..Im also born in an moon-pluto family.

His pluto also in exactly parallel to my N moon. His moon in scorpio. His Draconic pluto conj my N moon exactly. Ive an exactly parallel moon-pluto in my Natal.

My boyfriend and I will not use our feelings on jealousy or controlling manner. If I see any tendence like that I will leave. I think he also will do. Im to old to be in an bad relationship. I follow my feelings. Good feelings.

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You are so dear, Popcorn!

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posted January 12, 2014 06:13 AM            

I can confirm that this is by far my most difficult relationship. Everything is just a bliss in comparison to this. It's funny because our charts have so many parallels, and in some ways we are alike, but at the same time we have this deep-rooted hate towards each other. Don't get me wrong, we never say we hate each other, we still live together and we have to endure this time in the best possible way, but the verbal violence is constantly present. It's like we evoke our primal, most primitive negative feelings..
I do love her, with all my heart, of course, she's my mum, but it's impossible to deal with her on a daily basis. She has the insatiable need to control me, and subconscious urge to degrade me, to "put me in my place", she is constantly saying: "I'm saying that you're this and this, lazy, stupid, totally unmotivated, debauched etc., because YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS." I've also said some bad things to her in the past, but they've always had a reason, or she provoked me. Now I just don't bother anymore, I stay silent and withdraw, although it takes a lot effort. I'm a very rational person, while she is just incredibly irrational, extremely subjective in all her dealings with people. I think this aspect just amplifies her irrationality towards me. Most of the times we are not able to hold a normal, adult conversation, and believe me, I've tried. She doesn't see our relationship in terms of facts, what really happened, but in her emotionally distorted view. It is always connected with power games, her favourite phrase is: this is my house, my rules, i'm in charge here... and other immature statements.

This relationship has taken most of my emotional energy in the past and it was so hard to the point when I almost had panic attacks (otherwise I'm a super collected person). I've moved out once and she took that as a personal attack, because i "hated her, was ungrateful" etc. although I never said that, and there were clearly other reasons involved, but she just wouldn't listen to my explanations. She continued with emotional extortion, until I returned after a year. Then she would use my return as an example of my failure and week will and throw it at my face. Now I'm moving out again, this time for real, with no intentions to return again, she doesn't know yet, because I can predict her reactions and I don't want to listen to them any more than few days before I move out.

posted July 12, 2022 06:08 AM            

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Originally posted by Belba:
Reviving this thread, just to share my experience.
I have double whammy with my mum, and we also have moon conjunct ASC double whammy.

I can confirm that this is by far my most difficult relationship. Everything is just a bliss in comparison to this. It's funny because our charts have so many parallels, and in some ways we are alike, but at the same time we have this deep-rooted hate towards each other. Don't get me wrong, we never say we hate each other, we still live together and we have to endure this time in the best possible way, but the verbal violence is constantly present. It's like we evoke our primal, most primitive negative feelings..
I do love her, with all my heart, of course, she's my mum, but it's impossible to deal with her on a daily basis. She has the insatiable need to control me, and subconscious urge to degrade me, to "put me in my place", she is constantly saying: "I'm saying that you're this and this, lazy, stupid, totally unmotivated, debauched etc., because YOU SHOULD REALIZE THIS." I've also said some bad things to her in the past, but they've always had a reason, or she provoked me. Now I just don't bother anymore, I stay silent and withdraw, although it takes a lot effort. I'm a very rational person, while she is just incredibly irrational, extremely subjective in all her dealings with people. I think this aspect just amplifies her irrationality towards me. Most of the times we are not able to hold a normal, adult conversation, and believe me, I've tried. She doesn't see our relationship in terms of facts, what really happened, but in her emotionally distorted view. It is always connected with power games, her favourite phrase is: this is my house, my rules, i'm in charge here... and other immature statements.

This relationship has taken most of my emotional energy in the past and it was so hard to the point when I almost had panic attacks (otherwise I'm a super collected person). I've moved out once and she took that as a personal attack, because i "hated her, was ungrateful" etc. although I never said that, and there were clearly other reasons involved, but she just wouldn't listen to my explanations. She continued with emotional extortion, until I returned after a year. Then she would use my return as an example of my failure and week will and throw it at my face. Now I'm moving out again, this time for real, with no intentions to return again, she doesn't know yet, because I can predict her reactions and I don't want to listen to them any more than few days before I move out.

I have no experience with this aspect in love synastry, which is presumably what most of you are interested in, but I have no doubt that it would only bring control issues, subconscious, primal fears and urges, ugly ugly emotions... I see no positive sides of the aspect, maybe it's because I'm not Plutonian, but that's my perspective.

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