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Topic: Composite with no major aspects among inner planets
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Hikaru29
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posted March 14, 2019 03:31 AM
  
Is it a case for concern if the inner planets - Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars - have no major aspects among them? There are only 2 minor aspects: Moon biquintile Venus and Venus semi-square Mars.
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ChildofVenus
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posted March 14, 2019 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Is it a case for concern if the inner planets - Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars - have no major aspects among them? There are only 2 minor aspects: Moon biquintile Venus and Venus semi-square Mars.
Are there any conjunctions in the composite chart? I remember someone saying that the composite chart should have at least one conjunction. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted March 14, 2019 10:25 AM
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Are there any conjunctions in the composite chart? I remember someone saying that the composite chart should have at least one conjunction.
They have one: Venus conjunct Saturn, but I'm not sure if one conjunction is enough to hold up the whole relationship. Furthermore, this aspect can also cause love expressions to be blocked or feel that this r/s is too "heavy". I don't know if any planets conjunct the angles because I don't have the guy's ToB. Anyway, my qn here is about the inner planets unaspecting each other. Is it a concern? Just saw another composite where there's only a Venus conjunct Mars (talking about just inner planets here). Further, their comp Sun is almost unaspected except a semi-sextile to Moon and quincunx NN. Moon only receives a wide trine from Neptune and semi-square Jupiter. Again, I'm not sure about angles conjunction because ToBs are not known. For this couple, they married, had a child, guy cheated on gal twice and they divorced. She believes that he married her only to get his PR.
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Hikaru29
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posted March 16, 2019 06:47 AM
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Bismarck2
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posted March 16, 2019 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Is it a case for concern if the inner planets - Sun/Moon/Mercury/Venus/Mars - have no major aspects among them? There are only 2 minor aspects: Moon biquintile Venus and Venus semi-square Mars.
Quintiles are not minor aspects. They're more powerful than sextiles. IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted March 16, 2019 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Quintiles are not minor aspects. They're more powerful than sextiles.
Isn't Biquintile categorised under minor aspect?? How do you interpret this aspect between Moon-Venus anyway? IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted March 16, 2019 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Quintiles are not minor aspects. They're more powerful than sextiles.
Are you sure about this? I've never heard or read there anywhere before. What would Sun quintile Mars indicate? The Sun being the woman and Mars the man? IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot
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posted March 16, 2019 12:58 PM
Definitely a case for concern.
You NEED a conjunction between the inner planets, the Venus conjunct Saturn is inner and outer and doesn’t count.
You need a sun conjunct mercury, Venus conjunct mars, moon conjunct mars, sun conjunct Venus etc.
I was the one who said this before lol because it’s 100 percent true. It’s actually quite rare to not have any, 75 percent of the time you will, so people shouldn’t settle since it’s not too hard to find. Of course you need other things as well but this is just a bare minimum of what you should and need to see in a composite if you’re looking for a strong or healthy relationship with long term potential. I’ve never seen a long term or healthy relationship without at least one. Remember oppositions can act like conjunctions as well, so sun opposition Venus would still count. And if the inner planets aren’t making any major aspects to each other, HUGE RED FLAG!. It’s simple; composites are a merging of energies, the relationship itself, the dynamic. The synthesis/combination. So if you don’t have aspects (exchange of energy) then you have no chemistry and no flow between you. The more aspects, the more involved and integrated the relationship and connection is. Without aspects the relationship will be awkward, disconnected, feel like something is missing or lacking and you won’t feel connected or have much to build on since the lack of aspects is showing a lack of compatibility and stagnancy and just not much going on. There’s no flow of energy. When you merge (composite) there’s nothing there (no aspects). It’s showing two people who naturally just don’t connect. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted March 16, 2019 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Definitely a case for concern.
You NEED a conjunction between the inner planets, the Venus conjunct Saturn is inner and outer and doesn’t count.
You need a sun conjunct mercury, Venus conjunct mars, moon conjunct mars, sun conjunct Venus etc.
I was the one who said this before lol because it’s 100 percent true. It’s actually quite rare to not have any, 75 percent of the time you will, so people shouldn’t settle since it’s not too hard to find. Of course you need other things as well but this is just a bare minimum of what you should and need to see in a composite if you’re looking for a strong or healthy relationship with long term potential. I’ve never seen a long term or healthy relationship without at least one. Remember oppositions can act like conjunctions as well, so sun opposition Venus would still count. And if the inner planets aren’t making any major aspects to each other, HUGE RED FLAG!. It’s simple; composites are a merging of energies, the relationship itself, the dynamic. The synthesis/combination. So if you don’t have aspects (exchange of energy) then you have no chemistry and no flow between you. The more aspects, the more involved and integrated the relationship and connection is. Without aspects the relationship will be awkward, disconnected, feel like something is missing or lacking and you won’t feel connected or have much to build on since the lack of aspects is showing a lack of compatibility and stagnancy and just not much going on. There’s no flow of energy. When you merge (composite) there’s nothing there (no aspects). It’s showing two people who naturally just don’t connect.
So what is the significance of trines and sextiles between inner planets in a composite chart? You said major aspects that includes trines, sextiles, conjunctions and oppositions all of those are major aspects. It's confusing because the way you describe it seems as though trines and sextiles are weak or irrelevant in a composite chart. IP: Logged |
LunaIscariot
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posted March 16, 2019 01:47 PM
??? I never said trines and sextiles don’t matter. I said major aspect, that includes trines and sextiles obviously.
But conjunctions and/or oppositions are more important, but that doesn’t means trines and sextile don’t count. They are very helpful.
But like I said, if you actually understand the concept of a composite, which is merging of energies, and conjunctions are also a merging, you want to see conjunctions. Conjunctions are showing two planets working together, a connection. In relationships, you want as much connection/merging and synthesis as possible and conjunctions are the strongest example of this. That’s why theyre the most important. IP: Logged |
Bismarck2
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posted March 16, 2019 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Are you sure about this? I've never heard or read there anywhere before.What would Sun quintile Mars indicate? The Sun being the woman and Mars the man?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ1-9B63Ewk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGz86d7MAio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJ4KaqjUj4 IP: Logged |
Bismarck2
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posted March 16, 2019 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Isn't Biquintile categorised under minor aspect?? How do you interpret this aspect between Moon-Venus anyway?
What I should say is that they are minor, but minor aspects aren't weak. They simply require tiny orbs. If we're judging aspect strength by how they "feel" then trines and sextiles are weaker. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted March 16, 2019 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZ1-9B63Ewk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGz86d7MAio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCJ4KaqjUj4
None of these are Sun quintile Mars but thank you  IP: Logged |
Bismarck2
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posted March 16, 2019 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
None of these are Sun quintile Mars but thank you
Doesn't matter. This is how you learn astrology. The nature of the aspect doesn't change and neither does the nature of the planets. A quintile is a combination between a hard and a soft aspect, similar to a conjunction in that sense, but with less vying for control. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus
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posted March 16, 2019 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Doesn't matter. This is how you learn astrology. The nature of the aspect doesn't change and neither does the nature of the planets. A quintile is a combination between a hard and a soft aspect, similar to a conjunction in that sense, but with less vying for control.
There would be a difference between Venus quintile Pluto and Sun quintile Mars because the planets involved are different. IP: Logged |
Bismarck2
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posted March 16, 2019 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Doesn't matter. This is how you learn astrology. The nature of the aspect doesn't change and neither does the nature of the planets. A quintile is a combination between a hard and a soft aspect, similar to a conjunction in that sense, but with less vying for control.
Yes, but you'd be able to figure it out. Truthfully speaking, not much is written about esoteric aspects, so we're left with simply the knowledge we have. You can read this though: http://theinnerwheel.com/2010/03/27/breathing-refined-air-the-esoteric-aspects/ To answer your other question from your other thread, YES, minor aspects count. They're not minor because they're weak. They're minor because their orbs are tiny. For instance, semisquares are WORSE than squares.
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Hikaru29
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posted March 17, 2019 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
What I should say is that they are minor, but minor aspects aren't weak. They simply require tiny orbs. If we're judging aspect strength by how they "feel" then trines and sextiles are weaker.
I'm talking about composite chart which shows how energies are merged, so my qn of this thread is whether it's good enough to just have a biquintile & semi-square among the inner planets? IP: Logged |
Hikaru29
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posted March 17, 2019 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Definitely a case for concern.
You NEED a conjunction between the inner planets, the Venus conjunct Saturn is inner and outer and doesn’t count.
You need a sun conjunct mercury, Venus conjunct mars, moon conjunct mars, sun conjunct Venus etc.
I was the one who said this before lol because it’s 100 percent true. It’s actually quite rare to not have any, 75 percent of the time you will, so people shouldn’t settle since it’s not too hard to find. Of course you need other things as well but this is just a bare minimum of what you should and need to see in a composite if you’re looking for a strong or healthy relationship with long term potential. I’ve never seen a long term or healthy relationship without at least one. Remember oppositions can act like conjunctions as well, so sun opposition Venus would still count. And if the inner planets aren’t making any major aspects to each other, HUGE RED FLAG!. It’s simple; composites are a merging of energies, the relationship itself, the dynamic. The synthesis/combination. So if you don’t have aspects (exchange of energy) then you have no chemistry and no flow between you. The more aspects, the more involved and integrated the relationship and connection is. Without aspects the relationship will be awkward, disconnected, feel like something is missing or lacking and you won’t feel connected or have much to build on since the lack of aspects is showing a lack of compatibility and stagnancy and just not much going on. There’s no flow of energy. When you merge (composite) there’s nothing there (no aspects). It’s showing two people who naturally just don’t connect.
Hey, I was waiting for you to comment on this!  I know you've said this and I've also read that conjunctions/oppositions are the most important in a Composite (of course trines/sextiles are good as well). I got the feeling that there's a lack of chemistry and/or emotional closeness between them. She doesn't tell him the major things happening in her life. She says it's because she doesn't wanna bother him but I see it as they don't connect on that level. Anyway, she has said that she doesn't see herself long-term with him. I was curious about the lack of major aspects among their composite inner planets so I checked their synastry and found that the guy's Venus only made a square to her Jupiter (talking about major aspects here). Minor aspects are biquintile to her Sun/Pluto... so unless biquintile (or minor aspects as a whole) are so powerful in producing the loving feeling that you actually don't need major aspects here? But as I said, I don't know his ToB so I can't tell if his Venus squaring her Jupiter activates any of his r/s house but Jupiter is surely not activating hers.
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