posted March 25, 2019 09:55 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Very intense. Are they married? It looks like a longtime relationship, a lot is going on here... The Mars/Pluto ruler in first house and their conjunction trine Sun, Moon, Mercury in 9th, with Mars square Chiron in 9th and Mercury conjunct Chiron... this gives me the quality of the relationship, very powerful, not to mention the Jupiter/Saturn conjunct NN in the third... it looks like a very intellectual and creative relationship, and having Chiron in 9th, it seems it all is meant to give an "higher mind" revolution. Also in synastry I can see a strong bond in the Saturn/Jupiter conjunctions. It looks very steady even though Uranus poses a few challenges... are they artists? or do they form a union from different cultures/country?

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Dunno too much about the relationship other than they already broke up once. They're not from different cultures and neither is an artist.

She's some girl I'm interested in and her bf, or ex(not sure right now). Here's my compatibility with her: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum35/HTML/008761.html

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posted March 27, 2019 06:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
The Comp. Sun/Moon and Mercury/Venus conjunctions are supported by Jupiter and the Pluto trine Mars and Neptune trines give good energy and expectations, Comp. Saturn in 7th might pose a burden though especially looking at Saturn conjunct Sun and Venus in the sinastry, but there is a good chemistry (Mars conjunct Mercury and Venus in synastry) and no bad aspects from Uranus. Mars square Mars and Pluto square Moon might become a little emotioanally harsh, looking also at Comp. Saturn square Pluto. Chiron poses a challenge though, if the relationship becomes too serious and obsessive or there might be some fruistration depoending whether the love is mutual or whether the communication is lacking armony/balance.

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posted March 28, 2019 01:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
What does Chiron in the first mean? And square sun/moon mean? How about saturn/pluto square? Do you know anything about these aspects?

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posted March 28, 2019 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Chiron is and asteroid called "the healer", it always refers to subconscious unresolved issues that can be supported or triggered in a positive or negative way by the interaction, it usually points to the way the person or the relationship deals with painful aspects.
In this synastry, there is a Chiron conjunct Sun/square Saturn in 7th conjunct Sun, and Composite Chiron in 1st house opposite Saturn in 7th/square Sun and Moon.
Composite Saturn in 7th can be harsh and with such aspects might suggest unrequited love or that there might be burden and restrictions, the Pluto square Saturn might again pose restrictions and challenges during difficult times, for instance it might happen that difficulties arise conflict and past resentments instead of shared efforts... Comp. Chiron opposite Saturn is binding and karmic and in case the relationship breaks up it is hard to deal with the separation, it points to a strong bond which can become very painful in case of break up... Sun square Moon usually show that the emotional needs are not always met, but it is still emotional and brings the two close...
I mainly see this synastry/composite as a possible union with attraction and shared values, but with some challenges in the long term. I'm not sure it shows mutual feelings. Whether there are, there might be committment but also a few burdens and conflicts.

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I think you misunderstood my post. Sun and moon are conjunct, not square. The conjunction is square to chiron(1d) and saturn(8d), and chiron and saturn are opposite(8d).

But anyways, so ultimately you think the former composite in the OP is better?

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Sorry, I'm afraid I misunderstood your question! Chiron in first house usually has to do with lack of self-confidence and accepting oneself, it has to do with the need to develope a stronger inner individuality and usually the person feels better in a group that on his own, and sometimes there are issues about being unsatisfied of one's physical appearance.

The Comp. first house is the "identity" of the relationship, so in this placement I assume that Comp. Chiron aspects are relevant.

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posted March 28, 2019 02:43 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Comp. Chiron opposite Saturn is binding and karmic and in case the relationship breaks up it is hard to deal with the separation, it points to a strong bond which can become very painful in case of break up...

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posted March 28, 2019 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
I thought the Sun was the identity?

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Sorry, since you asked about Sun/Moon square aspect, I didn't look at the chart again and I assumed you were talking about that same synastry, LOL !

I am referring to the first house as the "identity", not to the Sun. Since Comp. Chiron is in the 1st house, it becomes a dominant aspect, this is what I meant.

posted March 28, 2019 03:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Is it the same for composite Chiron square Saturn? Strong bond & painful breakup?

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posted March 28, 2019 03:13 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
But anyways, so ultimately you think the former composite in the OP is better?

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I'm not sure it's "better"... I have looked at them separately (in different days) and I have not really compared the two. I will do it as soon as I can! What I remember of the first one is that there was some strong energy going on. The second synastry/comp. is maybe more "stable".

posted March 28, 2019 03:21 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I'm not sure it's "better"... I have looked at them separately (in different days) and I have not really compared the two. I will do it as soon as I can! What I remember of the first one is that there was some strong energy going on. The second synastry/comp. is maybe more "stable".

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posted March 28, 2019 03:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Sun and moon are conjunct, not square. The conjunction is square to chiron(1d) and saturn(8d), and chiron and saturn are opposite(8d).

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You're totally right! The Sun/Moon conjunction to these aspects is very binding. I think it might empower the Pluto/Saturn effect and the Saturn/Chiron opposition. Potentially, it can be a lifetime relationship very hard to break, even though it might pose some emotional challenges.

posted March 28, 2019 03:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
You're totally right! The Sun/Moon conjunction to these aspects is very binding. I think it might empower the Pluto/Saturn effect and the Saturn/Chiron opposition. Potentially, it can be a lifetime relationship very hard to break, even though it might pose some emotional challenges.

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posted March 28, 2019 04:02 AM            

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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Also, jupiter in the 8th sextiling moon and venus. That will make problems in the relationship easier to deal with.

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I agree, this is what I meant when I wrote "The Comp. Sun/Moon and Mercury/Venus conjunctions are supported by Jupiter and the Pluto trine Mars and Neptune trines give good energy and expectations"...
only thing I would dare to say, since you said this is someone you're interested in who (maybe) comes from a break up (or maybe not?), I would warn you against those Comp. Mars squares and also those on the ASC... there might be a "red light" in there, and also in the Saturn in the 7th. Whether a relationship is established, in my opinion, then those Sun/Moon, Jupiter and Saturn aspects might come into play, with armony, committment, maybe long term, maybe emotional challenges... but as I said I'm not sure about the mutual feelings or whether a relationship can be actually established. In any case, I hope you will update about this on the forum!

posted March 28, 2019 06:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I think it is similar, maybe I would see a square a little harder...

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posted March 28, 2019 08:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
It's in a t-square... Saturn square Nodes and Chiron. You saw our chart in the other thread.

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Yes, this is what I wrote about it:
"this Saturn square in the second, in this whole picture, might point to the fact that such strong committment in the long term might undermine the emotional quality of the relationship in case of more "down to earth" matters come into play... BUT the stellium is supported by Jupiter and the NN in the 11th, in Taurus, and this tells me that with a good realistic sense and giving attitude it is possible to make any possible struggle work out."
I think that the "seriousness" of Saturn in 2nd is what can threat the emotional intensity of the relationship and since his NN in 9th square your Saturn in 2nd again in synastry, this might give him frustration and make him feel "detached". And here Chiron can come into play becoming painful and give "self-defence" and selfishness (since it's in the 11th).