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manderin
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posted April 06, 2019 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry:

And here's the composite:


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Stoika7
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posted April 06, 2019 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It looks intense but painful... there's a strong emotional dependency. There's fascination but also the risk of abuse, or big disappointment. The Pluto/Pluto (in Scorpio) square Venus with Saturn/Jupiter square Jupiter/Chiron (in 8th), DW Neptune/Moon square Saturn/NN in12th in synastry, and the Comp. 12th house Sun/Pluto/NN/Mars, Moon square Mars/conjunct Neptune, Chiron conjunct Venus opposite Uranus/ASC... I think it's intense but challenging, Mars looks aggressive or just the two energies clash and bring dissatisfaction, some critical dynamics seem to come back over and over and never meet the expectations. The "blue" person in synastry looks especially influenced by this or afflicted...

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posted April 06, 2019 06:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, but I don't see any of the aspects you're referring to so I'm a bit confused.

There's no pluto squares. There's only pluto trine venus. Saturn is also not squaring chiron.

His mars is conjunct my moon and my mars does oppose his sun so I can see mars issues, but I don't see any of the other stuff.

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posted April 06, 2019 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh I think some of the stuff you mentioned was in the composite? I must admit I don't have a birth time for him so the houses don't really matter when it comes to the composite unfortunately. But I see what you meant about the 12th house now.

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posted April 06, 2019 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Thank you, but I don't see any of the aspects you're referring to so I'm a bit confused.

There's no pluto squares. There's only pluto trine venus. Saturn is also not squaring chiron.

His mars is conjunct my moon and my mars does oppose his sun so I can see mars issues, but I don't see any of the other stuff.


I was initially talking about the synastry Pluto/Pluto square Mercury here, you're right, not Venus, but the Saturn/Jupiter conjunction is square Chiron (in the "blue" 8th house) and this is harsh... plus Venus square Uranus (synastry)... what aspects don't you see? the others, I was referring to the Composite.

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posted April 06, 2019 07:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Oh I think some of the stuff you mentioned was in the composite? I must admit I don't have a birth time for him so the houses don't really matter when it comes to the composite unfortunately. But I see what you meant about the 12th house now.

Yes, sorry maybe I didn't make it very clear... Oh if the house are not exact there must be big difference for some aspects, but a few ones are still tough... It is overall pretty intense though, there's much attraction and emotional turmoil is possible. I see potential emotional "clash" and possible painful circumstances though...

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posted April 06, 2019 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi mandarin
looking at the composite,
starting with the Uranus opposition to venus, there is a very electric emotional/sexual attraction especially with venus on the ascendant.
with chiron conjunct to venus, there is analytical bent to the relationship. this shows a interest in understanding each others emotional feelings and responses. this usually show that you want to understand everything about the partners emotional nature. But this can lead to criticism if pushed to far or if one is not comfortable with the level of intimacy.
urnaus and venus are intense but rather unstable . chiron/venus are sextile to Jupiter and trine to Saturn which is very favorable as the overly critical nature of chiron is assuaged by the mental understanding of Jupiter and the feelings of devotion that Saturn can engender.

though the mercury/pluto midpoint conjunct to the sun indicates that there are mental inhibitions for sharing deep feelings and thoughts. this would work against the chiron's desire for totally transparency in the relationship.
the mars/pluto midpoint is conjunct the node which is two edged.
on one hand it can add sexual intensity to the already intense emotional attraction.
on the other hand this is a very selfish ad carnal aspect which doe not promote intimacy but rather is very desire oriented. this might show that after the intensity of the urnus/Venus connection wanes,he might lose interest.the pluto/mars aspect can turn to celibate feelings if the intensity of the sexual connection does not lad to a corresponding emotional intimacy. Bluntly, there are indications the relationship is sexual but not one that will lead to serious emotional intimacy.

the sextile/trine pattern of chiron/venus and Saturn and Jupiter is very favorable and gives a cohesive mental and emotional feeling, but the Uranus/Venus opposition rarely leads to a serious or long term relationship

in addition the mars/Uranus midpoint is conjunct the sun which shows he is not into a binding relationship . this makes it clear this is an affair and will have no "legs".

I suggest you do not let yourself become to attached, as chiron in breakups can inflict severe emotional pain .
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posted April 07, 2019 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She does not know his birth time so Venus may not be on the Asc.

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posted April 07, 2019 12:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
sighs... Thanks all. Well I'm probably just going to go for it anyway just because in my experience it's been too much work to find someone who has good match with my planets AND they want a relationship too. Unfortunately it's usually only one or the other.

There was one guy everyone said I had a great match with. Even Todd said our composite was beautiful- but that guy just wasn't that into me and really wasn't interested in giving us a chance so it didn't go very far.

This one here is into me though so at least I can maybe get some nice dinners out of it if nothing else.

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posted April 07, 2019 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
sighs... Thanks all. Well I'm probably just going to go for it anyway just because in my experience it's been too much work to find someone who has good match with my planets AND they want a relationship too. Unfortunately it's usually only one or the other.

There was one guy everyone said I had a great match with. Even Todd said our composite was beautiful- but that guy just wasn't that into me and really wasn't interested in giving us a chance so it didn't go very far.
This one here very into me though so at least I can maybe get some nice dinners out of it.


Go with your feel and I hope it turns out well.

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posted April 07, 2019 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope so too, but I really have seen how composites and synastry really do play out in relationships. So it's not like I don't believe in it. I do because I've seen it work. It's just that I'm tired. lol.

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posted April 07, 2019 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
I hope so too, but I really have seen how composites and synastry really do play out in relationships. So it's not like I don't believe in it. I do because I've seen it work. It's just that I'm tired. lol.

Ya, but like what you said you had a beautiful composite with someone who doesn't even wanna get in a r/s with you so what's the point of it? You can just frame it up and hang it on the wall (lol). Composites tell you the dynamics but they don't tell you if people will get into that r/s, as you've already experienced.

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posted April 07, 2019 01:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Also, same aspects can play out differently in different couples, depending on their natal and maturity. Take for example, Mars square Pluto. So much violence talk about it but couples I know with that aspect never got violent with each other.

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posted April 07, 2019 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
I hope so too, but I really have seen how composites and synastry really do play out in relationships. So it's not like I don't believe in it. I do because I've seen it work. It's just that I'm tired. lol.

I agree with you and Hiraku, I don't think you should give up a chance based on the chart, all aspects can play out in different ways based on the several different circumstances and people's mindset, culture, age, experience, sensitiveness, maturity and so on... especially the Composite, I think it can say much more when you're more aware of the relationship dynamic... also the negative aspects that I've seen can play out in different ways based on circumstances and in the long run, and it doesn't mean it can't still work out, since it all always depends on ways we deal with those energies, influences, circumstances.
What I mainly see here in the synastry is that there is a great potential for intimacy (Sun, Venus, Mercury trine Moon, Neptune conjunct Moon, Neptune, Mars and Pluto conjunct Pluto sextile Venus/Sextile Sun, Venus, Mercury). With this aspect, I agree with Todd that there might be a deep attraction/sexual involvement and intimacy, also cause Venus opposite Sun, Moon, Mercury. The DW Venus square Uranus conjunct Uranus is pretty tricky to me, it is a very unpredictable aspect, and it can play out in shocking ways cause Saturn conjunct Jupiter square Chiron worries me, especially in 8th house (but we don't know) and cause Saturn/NN square the Neptune/Neptune/Moon/Moon conjunctions touching the synastry Pluto/Pluto trine Venus/sextile Venus/Sun/Mercury. And, in all that, I see that Mars opposite Sun, which might be intriguing, dynamic and sexy, but depending on how emotionally stable or unstable the situation is, it can become challenging. But especially the DW Uranus/Uranus. In the Composite, Uranus looks less "dangerous" and it all miuch more "balanced" than the synastry, I think. Still Composite Uranus opposite Venus/Chiron poses a question mark for stability, together with Moon square Mars/square Neptune, and Jupiter square NN... But I also see intense feelings and romance in those Composite sextiles and trines (Comp. Sun/Moon/Mercury + Neptune conjunct Moon and Pluto conjunct Sun). It can become emotionally deep, I think. And those Uranus and Mars challenges might play out in a dynamic excting way which can pose the "other part of the coin", basically, being part of the game. Composite Chiron here seems bringing a burden though, whether those challenges play out in the worse scenario. But this is all theory :-) I still believe life deserves to be experienced in real and potential challenges are part of it :-)

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