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Topic: Was our relationship the basis of illusions and lies?
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Eclipse Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted April 10, 2019 06:06 PM
We have Pallas conjunct Nessus, Neptune opposition Ascendant, Chiron square Venus, Lie asteroid conjunct Moon in the synastry. The other aspects indicate that we know each other from past lives. This conjunction of the Moon with the asteroid Lie worries me. The Moon is him and the asteroid Lie is me, does that mean he was lying about his feelings for me? This opposition from Neptune to the Ascendant also worries me too much. I am Neptune and he is the Ascendant. Does that mean I manipulate he? Synastry Composite Davison IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 109607 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 11, 2019 07:42 AM
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LunaIscariot Knowflake Posts: 3229 From: Registered: Aug 2014
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posted April 11, 2019 07:57 AM
Post the chartsSynastry, comp and Davison IP: Logged |
Eclipse Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted April 12, 2019 06:03 PM
quote: Originally posted by LunaIscariot: Post the chartsSynastry, comp and Davison
I've already put the charts you asked in the description. I've added some asteroids for you to see some aspects that we have. That we were already predestined to meet us I have no doubt, but we have many bad aspects on my standpoint and this worries me a lot.IP: Logged |
Eclipse Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted April 16, 2019 11:33 AM
Could someone give me some hunch about these charts, please?IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 1320 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted April 17, 2019 03:28 AM
Firstly, it's my opinion that everyone that comes into our lives are destined... and whether we like/dislike them or end up falling in love with them are destined. Whether they eventually become our friends, enemies, lovers or spouses is free will. I don't believe in past lives. It's romantic but not evident-based.Are you asking about illusion because of Neptune? Neptune most commonly involved projection, romanticism and idealism, not so much deception as in malicious cheating/lying. If there's any deception, it is most likely we deceiving ourselves into thinking they're something which they're not because we had idealised them and put them on a pedestal. The Neptune person hates to burst your bubble so they'll try to live up to the reputation you've given them. E.g. you tell them "Oh... you're such a kind person" and the Neptune person will try to be a "saint" in front of you even though they're not and they will slip... and when they do, you feel deceived. I think this could be played out both ways, not sure. Neptune hard aspects can bring up themes of over idealisation and confusion (esp. the squares) so if you get a lot of this in both synastry/composite there will be confusion about the partnership, who your partner really is and what they're really saying. You can swing from totally trusting each other to total mistrust. And again there will be feelings of being deceived. IP: Logged |
Eclipse Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Aug 2018
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posted April 17, 2019 09:53 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hikaru29: Firstly, it's my opinion that everyone that comes into our lives are destined... and whether we like/dislike them or end up falling in love with them are destined. Whether they eventually become our friends, enemies, lovers or spouses is free will. I don't believe in past lives. It's romantic but not evident-based.Are you asking about illusion because of Neptune? Neptune most commonly involved projection, romanticism and idealism, not so much deception as in malicious cheating/lying. If there's any deception, it is most likely we deceiving ourselves into thinking they're something which they're not because we had idealised them and put them on a pedestal. The Neptune person hates to burst your bubble so they'll try to live up to the reputation you've given them. E.g. you tell them "Oh... you're such a kind person" and the Neptune person will try to be a "saint" in front of you even though they're not and they will slip... and when they do, you feel deceived. I think this could be played out both ways, not sure. Neptune hard aspects can bring up themes of over idealisation and confusion (esp. the squares) so if you get a lot of this in both synastry/composite there will be confusion about the partnership, who your partner really is and what they're really saying. You can swing from totally trusting each other to total mistrust. And again there will be feelings of being deceived.
Thanks for explaining me this aspect! I felt cheated by him. He was so seductive and then turned out to be someone totally different than I expected. But I also can not demand too much because I also joked with his feelings a lot, I also lied. Yes, I trusted him and he trusted me, it was incredible at first. Then the mistrust came and we walked away. In short: The two deceived each other. And I was too immature at the time, of course it would not work. Only I can not forget it, I do not know what I do.
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Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 1320 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted April 17, 2019 11:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by Eclipse: Thanks for explaining me this aspect! I felt cheated by him. He was so seductive and then turned out to be someone totally different than I expected. But I also can not demand too much because I also joked with his feelings a lot, I also lied. Yes, I trusted him and he trusted me, it was incredible at first. Then the mistrust came and we walked away. In short: The two deceived each other. And I was too immature at the time, of course it would not work. Only I can not forget it, I do not know what I do.
Neptune has lotsa empathy... you'll wonder, "Maybe they didn't mean to hurt me... Maybe it's partly my fault... Maybe they were in a difficult situation..." and you can get caught in it for a long time.... that's until your bubble bursts. The negative manifestations are usually with harsh aspects. The conjunction can go either way depending on how each handle their Neptune. The sextiles/trines are nice and glue 2ppl together in a nice, romantic dream. How's your Neptune in natal? IP: Logged | |