posted April 12, 2019 10:20 AM            

Me and my "potential" partner have a 6th house stellium in our composite; which I've been told on an earlier thread that it's something very negative to have... And it involves : Cancer Sun/Venus/Mercury/NN 6th, Gemini Moon 6th.

And on our progressed composite, some of the planets change houses.

I will attach them both under this text.
Thank you.

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posted April 12, 2019 12:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Good question.

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posted April 12, 2019 05:00 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
What's the difference between a Composite chart and a Progressed Composite one ?

Me and my "potential" partner have a 6th house stellium in our composite; which I've been told on an earlier thread that it's something very negative to have... And it involves : Cancer Sun/Venus/Mercury/NN 6th, Gemini Moon 6th.

And on our progressed composite, some of the planets move houses.

I will attach them both under this text.
Thank you.

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A Composite shows the dynamics of a relationship in a "fixed" way, outside a "time" dimension, what it is about based on the synastry midpoints and this is not going to change. A progressive Composite is like a progressive natal chart, how it changes based on transits, in a progressive "time" dimension, so your progressed Composite shows how a relationship can potentially develope at this time.
I see from the Composite that this relationship might work well on a daily basis and practical matters, or by sharing some kind of activity, and there is a good mental compatibiliy with the stellium trine Pluto/sextile Neptune involving the Nodes on the ASC/DSC axis. So this shows there's a comfortable feeling and inspiration from each others (Stellium, Pluto and Mars Grand Trine). The stellium in the 6th house might show also a good physical compatibility and being on the same page on daily bases or on grounded goals.
Mars square the stellium and Jupiter square Pluto might pose a blockage, together with Neptune opposition, maybe the relationship is not about what one would expect, but it has a different purpose or the potential is not fairly targeted.
The progressed chart shows that at this moment there is a romantic expectation cause the Moon is in the 5th house square Mars and opposite Neptune in 11th/sextile Pluto in 9th/trine Mercury. There is an idealization but the Neptune opposition might still suggest to stay grounded about this. Morever, Saturn/Juno/Jupiter in the progressive twelve opposite the stellium, it is romantic and platonic. Progressive Mars trine the stellium suggests that there's a energy going on, something is triggered and is going to be developed, but the stellium in 6th together with Chiron on DSC, I think it suggests to look at this as a drive toward common goals on grounded basis, cause this is still the compatibility area (the 6th house) but also the friendship area where the ASC lies right now (Aquarius).

posted April 12, 2019 05:39 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
A Composite shows the dynamics of a relationship in a "fixed" way, outside a "time" dimension, what it is about based on the synastry midpoints and this is not going to change. A progressive Composite is like a progressive natal chart, how it changes based on transits, in a progressive "time" dimension, so your progressed Composite shows how a relationship can potentially develope at this time.
I see from the Composite that this relationship might work well on a daily basis and practical matters, or by sharing some kind of activity, and there is a good mental compatibiliy with the stellium trine Pluto/sextile Neptune involving the Nodes on the ASC/DSC axis. So this shows there's a comfortable feeling and inspiration from each others (Stellium, Pluto and Mars Grand Trine). The stellium in the 6th house might show also a good physical compatibility and being on the same page on daily bases or on grounded goals.
Mars square the stellium and Jupiter square Pluto might pose a blockage, together with Neptune opposition, maybe the relationship is not about what one would expect, but it has a different purpose or the potential is not fairly targeted.
The progressed chart shows that at this moment there is a romantic expectation cause the Moon is in the 5th house square Mars and opposite Neptune in 11th/sextile Pluto in 9th/trine Mercury. There is an idealization but the Neptune opposition might still suggest to stay grounded about this. Morever, Saturn/Juno/Jupiter in the progressive twelve opposite the stellium, it is romantic and platonic. Progressive Mars trine the stellium suggests that there's a energy going on, something is triggered and is going to be developed, but the stellium in 6th together with Chiron on DSC, I think it suggests to look at this as a drive toward common goals on grounded basis, cause this is still the compatibility area (the 6th house) but also the friendship area where the ASC lies right now (Aquarius).

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Oh! Thank you so much for this detailed reply.

This makes sense actually. We have Jupiter hardly aspected in our synastry as well. And also my Venus opp his Uranus suggests a little bit from what you stated as well.

posted April 12, 2019 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
Oh! Thank you so much for this detailed reply.

This makes sense actually. We have Jupiter hardly aspected in our synastry as well. And also my Venus opp his Uranus suggests a little bit from what you stated as well.

I understand that we can't have perfectly aspected placements, but I'm a bit worried. Esp after seeing the composite, and now the progressed composite. I don't know if I should take the good things about synastry in consideration, or just get my mind out of this rs. Because I'm kinda lost tbh.

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Progressive Mars trine the stellium and Moon/Lilith on 5th house and sextile Juno/Saturn still suggests there's a romantic development :-)
It looks pretty hot to me, even though the Prog. twelve house Saturn/Juno opposite the stellium might suggest this is not going to be long term... but 12th house is always a question mark to me, it might point to great intimacy and psychic other wordly connection, and Neptune/Uranus in 11th sextile Pluto (9th house Scorpio) as well and it is wow, very romantic and sexy... I feel the whole Prog. says "Seize the day", you know what I mean? I think especially those Nodes placements are karmic.

posted April 12, 2019 05:58 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Progressive Mars trine the stellium and Moon/Lilith on 5th house and trine Juno/Saturn still suggests there's a romantic development :-)
It looks pretty hot to me, even though the Prog. twelve house Saturn/Juno opposite the stellium might suggest this is not going to be long term... but 12th house is always a question mark to me, it might point to great intimacy and psychic other wordly connection, and Neptune/Uranus in 11th sextile Pluto (9th house Scorpio) as well and it is wow, very romantic and sexy... I feel the whole Prog. says "Seize the day", you know what I mean? I think especially those Nodes placements are karmic.

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It is very karmic. The whole circumstances of us meeting were very weird. I dreamed of him for months prior to knowing him lol. This is why it's confusing me. And a lot.

posted April 12, 2019 06:19 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
It is very karmic. The whole circumstances of us meeting were very weird. I dreamed of him for months prior to knowing him lol. This is why it's confusing me. And a lot.

Even the day we met, the Transit Moon was conjunct his Moon and they both were in my 8th house, conjunct most of my personal planets. Along with the Transit NN conjunct his Sun in the 4th and falling in my 9th house conjunct my Moon. So... I'm scared you know..?

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I hear you, I know what you mean! The "other worldly" connection you have is clear from the Composite 12th Neptune/Uranus/SN sextile Pluto. This looks very karmic and psychic to me. And I think you're a "psychic" person since your Moon is in 9th, Neptune in 3rd and NN in 12th :-)
I had a similar "psychic" experience while being very skeptical about these things, and I was very scared at first... but all those signs were pointing to a direction, suggesting there's something to get aware about (I actually didn't get completely aware yet and still looking for answers, lol ), but I've learnt to accept these things happen at least. That was also a "seize the day" situation and it was especially useful to remove an emotional and creative "blockage" I had. Maybe this is mainly telling you to just get out there and experience it whatever it is, just not to keep yourself "secluded" and miss exciting chances :-)

posted April 12, 2019 06:36 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I hear you, I know what you mean! The "other worldly" connection you have is clear from the Composite 12th Neptune/Uranus/SN sextile Pluto. This looks very karmic and psychic to me. And I think you're a "psychic" person since your Moon is in 9th, Neptune in 3rd and NN in 12th :-)
I had a similar "psychic" experience while being very skeptical about these things, and I was very scared at first... but all those signs were pointing to a direction, suggesting there's something to get aware about (I actually didn't get completely aware yet and still looking for answers, lol ), but I've learnt to accept these things happen at least. That was also a "seize the day" situation and it was especially useful to remove an emotional and creative "blockage" I had. Maybe this is mainly telling you to just get out there and experience it whatever it is, just not to keep yourself "secluded" and miss exciting chances :-)

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Yes, I agree. I still didn't figure out why we met, I know I will with time. I was kind of hoping it would be a long lasting rs, that wanting it to be romantic probably is coming from me. Because I don't want to commit for nothing (my 8th h stellium will never let me breath LOL).

posted April 12, 2019 07:25 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
Yes, I agree. I still didn't figure out why we met, I know I will with time. I was kind of hoping it would be a long lasting rs, that wanting it to be romantic probably is coming from me. Because I don't want to commit for nothing (my 8th h stellium will never let me breath LOL).

I do feel that it's going to last for a good amount of time, but it depends on how things flow for now. Because he is not very talkative, he's pretty robotic the way he talks, idk if that's his Leo Mercury square Pluto and trine Saturn. Along with his Gemini Moon opp Saturn. But he doesn't communicate much. While me, on the other hand, a heavy Gemini, I'm all about communication. If you don't communicate with me, it's like you're telling me "leave me alone!" indirectly haha. And as little as he talks, I feel like he's going too fast with this "rs". I know that in his mind, he went too far in the rs as if we were together for months, while we only know each other for a couple of weeks. And that makes me really uncomfortable, and on the same time I feel there's something pulling me towards him. So... ugh I can't deal!

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posted April 13, 2019 06:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yeah I know what you mean about being a Gemini and your need of communication! Well, he's a Cancer 4th house and yes Mercury's trine to Saturn in his 8th (!), which is not a comfortable house to have Saturn, and his Mercury also sextile his Moon (which is opposite his 8th Saturn!!), and he also has Pluto in Scorpio (7th house)... AND his Neptune square his ASC, this might make him very insecure about communication, and can even lead to be misunderstood. so he's probably a very sensitive person and he's not easy to open up, (his Mars also opposite his Sun!), but when he does communicate he's honest, I think. Actually, his Mercury sextile your Mercury (conjunct Moon) and trine your Saturn (in 5th), so this might suggest that he's going to open up to you more and more as your relationship becomes more intimate and he's going to feel more confident. I see that things go fast cause of the Prog. Mars trine to the Prog. Stellium and sextile to Saturn. I'm not sure it can't be long term. Uranus opposite the stellium might become exciting, or bring on-off/hot-cold switches, btw whether it might suddenly be over (this is also a possibility) this is going to be a significant bond for you (Comp Saturn/Juno in 1st house opposite Chiron in 7th and Prog. Saturn/Juno opposite the Stellium).

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Thank you so much. This was really helpful. We'll see what's going to happen with time. I'm hoping for the best.

posted April 13, 2019 06:38 AM            

Our progressed Composite has a few squares between Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and we're really having a lot of conflict - hypersensitive to what each other say, emotional fights etc... even after we've supposedly broken off we still quarrel!

posted April 13, 2019 12:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ladies, in your experience how apparent are progressed Composites, like do you really see progressed aspects playing out?

Our progressed Composite has a few squares between Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and we're really having a lot of conflict - hypersensitive to what each other say, emotional fights etc... even after we've supposedly broken off we still quarrel!

But we also have Saturn conjunct Asc from 1st house and Uranus/North Node conjunct IC from 3rd house (Venus is sextile this conjunction & IC). I wonder if this is what glues us despite all the fighting... can't totally break off from each other? Conjunction to IC is like Moon contact, I supposed? Attractive yet unstable.

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For this moment, I think it's pretty accurate. We have Moon in the 5th, we're freshly dating and I think we both want/hope for things to be romantic. We're still both lost and confused, lol. Like I don't know what his intentions are and I don't know mine either. I am just hoping for the best.

posted April 13, 2019 02:08 PM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Ladies, in your experience how apparent are progressed Composites, like do you really see progressed aspects playing out?

Our progressed Composite has a few squares between Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars and we're really having a lot of conflict - hypersensitive to what each other say, emotional fights etc... even after we've supposedly broken off we still quarrel!

But we also have Saturn conjunct Asc from 1st house and Uranus/North Node conjunct IC from 3rd house (Venus is sextile this conjunction & IC). I wonder if this is what glues us despite all the fighting... can't totally break off from each other? Conjunction to IC is like Moon contact, I supposed? Attractive yet unstable.

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Hiraku, post the Prog. chart! (maybe in a dedicated new post of yours?)
I trust the Prog pretty much, even more than the regular Composite, cause things are never "static" but always changing and it makes sense to me that even our natal charts change with time... From the Prog. Composite I could see how things have changed/developed in my r/s...
Oh did you guys really break up?! :-( I didn't expect this to happen. Really sorry about that. Those squares you mention might show the emotional fights, and the Saturn conjunct ASC in 1st house is "crisis", the relationship is being questioned or put under judgment. Usually Prog. Uranus and Saturn heavy squares would point to definitive break up (i.e. Uranus square to Pluto or Saturn or to the whole Stellium....)

posted April 13, 2019 02:13 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
For this moment, I think it's pretty accurate. We have Moon in the 5th, we're freshly dating and I think we both want/hope for things to be romantic. We're still both lost and confused, lol. Like I don't know what his intentions are and I don't know mine either. I am just hoping for the best.

I did a progressed composite for the Month of August, and I noticed it's the month where aspects change from the ones of this moment. And we're going to have a Moon in the 5th opposite Neptune/Uranus, and square Mars. So I think this suggests that we will be having some conflicts ??? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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There might be a sudden "wake up" and disappointment, but it depends also on other aspects whether this means a separation or just a temporary upheaval or just a different way to relate to each others... post the August Prog.! :-)

posted April 13, 2019 02:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
There might be a sudden "wake up" and disappointment, but it depends also on other aspects whether this means a separation or just a temporary upheaval or just a different way to relate to each others... post the August Prog.! :-)

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Here's the August Prog. It stayed the same until the end of the year. (I mean same aspects nothing changed)
I can't thank you enough Stoika7. You've been such a great help!!!!!!

posted April 13, 2019 04:22 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
Here's the August Prog. It stayed the same until the end of the year. (I mean same aspects nothing changed)
I can't thank you enough Stoika7. You've been such a great help!!!!!!

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You're welcome, glad if it helps :-)
Actually, there are not big differences with the actual dynamics, since the Moon in 5th was already opposite to Uranus conjunct Neptune/opposite the stellium, so since Prog. Saturn will still be in 12th house, there will likely be some uncertainty and questioning, but Mars trine Stellium and sextile Saturn still show there's will to make this work out. To see effective "changes" in the long term, maybe you should draw a Progressive chart for next December/January or so...

posted April 13, 2019 04:42 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
You're welcome, glad if it helps :-)
Actually, there are not big differences with the actual dynamics, since the Moon in 5th was already opposite to Uranus conjunct Neptune/opposite the stellium, so since Prog. Saturn will still be in 12th house, there will likely be some uncertainty and questioning, but Mars trine Stellium and sextile Saturn still show there's will to make this work out. To see effective "changes" in the long term, maybe you should draw a Progressive chart for next December/January or so...

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For Dec/Jan (and months later) Mars keeps the same aspects but it won't be square the Moon anymore, and Pluto will be trine the Moon instead (+Mercury and NN) and still sextile to Neptune. So I think they'll be some changes in the relationship (?).

posted April 13, 2019 04:54 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
For Dec/Jan (and months later) Mars keeps the same aspects but it won't be square the Moon anymore, and Pluto will be trine the Moon instead (+Mercury and NN) and still sextile to Neptune. So I think they'll be some changes in the relationship (?).

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Oh well, it looks much better so. It looks like something will get much clearer and... romantic! (I wish so!) Bear in mind that in the synastry his Uranus is opposite your Venus and your Saturn square his Neptune might give you the feeling that he's unreliable and might make you question his feelings, these are "basic" compatibility aspects between you two so the unpredictable and unstable feeling might just stay there even whether you become actually completely committed to each others.

posted April 13, 2019 05:09 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Oh well, it looks much better so. It looks like something will get much clearer and... romantic! (I wish so!) Bear in mind that in the synastry his Uranus is opposite your Venus and your Saturn square his Neptune might give you the feeling that he's unreliable and might make you question his feelings, these are "basic" compatibility aspects between you two so the unpredictable and unstable feeling might just stay there even whether you become actually completely committed to each others.

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posted April 13, 2019 06:21 PM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
Oh! I already know that he's going to make me question his feelings. Lmao! It's the energy I picked up from him when we went out. I think it's also due to the age difference. He's 10 years older than me (He's not that old tho, he's in his 30s), so he operates in a different way (?). Like things I think are important to say, for him are rather expressed thru emotions or actions. Again, he's not much of a talker, so this might be true. But it's only the feeling I got from him.

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posted April 14, 2019 10:10 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hiraku, post the Prog. chart! (maybe in a dedicated new post of yours?)
I trust the Prog pretty much, even more than the regular Composite, cause things are never "static" but always changing and it makes sense to me that even our natal charts change with time... From the Prog. Composite I could see how things have changed/developed in my r/s...
Oh did you guys really break up?! :-( I didn't expect this to happen. Really sorry about that. Those squares you mention might show the emotional fights, and the Saturn conjunct ASC in 1st house is "crisis", the relationship is being questioned or put under judgment. Usually Prog. Uranus and Saturn heavy squares would point to definitive break up (i.e. Uranus square to Pluto or Saturn or to the whole Stellium....)

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I can't say whether we've really broken up that's why I said "supposedly" because we talked about breaking up one moment and then said 'I miss you' and sending each other kisses the next. The emotional high/low was crazy over the last few days.

I read that Saturn conjunct Asc is heavy making things too serious but also gluey. Saturn is square Uranus (which is also in our Composite) but Pluto is also sextile Saturn (which I read that it's a strengthening aspect.

posted April 14, 2019 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
For this moment, I think it's pretty accurate. We have Moon in the 5th, we're freshly dating and I think we both want/hope for things to be romantic. We're still both lost and confused, lol. Like I don't know what his intentions are and I don't know mine either. I am just hoping for the best.

I did a progressed composite for the Month of August, and I noticed it's the month where aspects change from the ones of this moment. And we're going to have a Moon in the 5th opposite Neptune/Uranus, and square Mars. So I think this suggests that we will be having some conflicts ??? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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Saturn in 12th can cause subconscious feelings of heaviness/restrictions... something you can't quite put a finger on and Jupiter there will inflate this feeling, making it feel more serious than it really is. Moon in 5th shows a desire to be romantic (as you already mentioned) but the opposition to Uranus/Neptune can cause feelings to fluctuate but as Stoika mentioned, the Mars trine/sextile shows a desire to "move" the relationship forward.

posted April 14, 2019 11:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Saturn in 12th can cause subconscious feelings of heaviness/restrictions... something you can't quite put a finger on and Jupiter there will inflate this feeling, making it feel more serious than it really is. Moon in 5th shows a desire to be romantic (as you already mentioned) but the opposition to Uranus/Neptune can cause feelings to fluctuate but as Stoika mentioned, the Mars trine/sextile shows a desire to "move" the relationship forward.

Since this is just beginning stage, I suggest just go with the flow and don't stress yourself. 😉

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Yes, the composite will either manifest on the high or low side. We'll either be devoted to making our rs better, or one of us will feel manipulated and having to do things they don't want for the sake of the rs. It'll either be great, or feeling like a slave type of way. So we'll see how all these aspects will play out.