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itsmeyaz
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posted May 05, 2019 07:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I saw a thread that Hikaru29 made about a first meeting chart and I was... blown away. Because on my first time meeting this guy, I only checked our transits and it, alone, was very interesting... But I never thought about checking the chart itself. So thank you Hikaru29!

What was fascinating to me is that, I kept postponing the first date for several times, because I was so scared. The moon by then just entered Aries.. And when I checked the actual transits of us meeting, it just made more sense. Idk how to explain it..
I will link our FM chart.

I know Hikaro29 mentionned how it can also show how the rs might end, so I would love to know what you guys think. Thank you <3.

This is our FM chart :

Edit : I deleted the transits because they will show better in the synastry between the FMC and our natal charts. Which I linked below.

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posted May 05, 2019 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In our composite, NN was transiting our 7H conjunct the DSC almost at the exact degree, and I read about it before that it indicates union or a start of a relationship...

The TMoon was transiting our 5H along with Mars, conjunct our composite Moon (in 6H). I've already posted the composite before in an earlier thread (We had a 6H stellium which I know.... is not good when it comes to relationships....)

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posted May 05, 2019 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I noticed the Saturn/Pluto/SN conjunction, I read about it and it said it means karmic release. So I think there will be some kind of karmic release/healing thru this union, since it's in the 7H. Maybe something we both clinged on for so long before meeting each other...? I'm not sure..
But that's how it felt meeting him, the energy I got from talking to him is that he will teach me something valuable and I will do the same for him.
I even asked my cards about it (I'm a little bit into tarot), and they said the same thing. It's more of a yin-yang connection. (I even can't stop seeing "yin-yang" wherever I go or think of him lololol)

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posted May 06, 2019 12:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, you should check this thread. http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum36/HTML/000721.html

As for your FMC... can't tell which are separating/applying aspects but here goes with my negligible knowledge thus far (lol)...

Asc in a good degree (not too early/late) 👍. Sun/Pisces exalted so that's a good sign especially if you're exploring a possible romantic r/s. The emphasis of your houses are 9,10,11... this colours the feelings of the first meeting: one of friendship where individuals feel comfortable sharing their experiences, ideas and dreams... especially Moon in Gemini 11H is curious and wants to do/learn a variety of things and Mercury on MC shows a strong intellectual connection. I don't see Moon aspects to Sun/Venus unfortunately but you have Moon-Mars conjunction which shows sexual attraction. Any declination aspects?

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posted May 06, 2019 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Hikaru, thank you for replying.

In synastry we have :
-My Sun parallel to his Sun/Moon
-My MC/Moon parallel to his Mercury
-My Jupiter parallel to his MC
-And my Mercury parallel to his Mercury

In our FMC we have :
-Sun contra-parallel to Venus
-Mercury & Venus // Neptune
-Jupiter // Saturn & Pluto
-Saturn // Pluto
-ASC // Mars. And contra-parallel to Jupiter
-Node // Mars. (And also contra-parallel to Jupiter, Saturn & Pluto)

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posted May 06, 2019 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for HieronymusTush     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uh oh... I tried one and it is eerily similar to the composite I have with this person, with the harsh aspects, squares and whatnot, removed. This is an event chart which has no integration from either natal charts... How is that even possible?

Really wish I had any other meeting dates and hours in mind - really want to try some more now. Thanks for bringing this up, itsmeyaz - do you know why the FM chart is supposedly for three months?

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posted May 06, 2019 07:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
Uh oh... I tried one and it is eerily similar to the composite I have with this person, with the harsh aspects, squares and whatnot, removed. This is an event chart which has no integration from either natal charts... How is that even possible?

Really wish I had any other meeting dates and hours in mind - really want to try some more now. Thanks for bringing this up, itsmeyaz - do you know why the FM chart is supposedly for three months?


I think it's for 3 months because after that time period both individuals set stones on how the rs is going to be like. They're either going to truly commit or not. It's basically the theme surrounding the process of taking a further step.

And also I found this : "FMCs are short term because you are essentially working with transits. Just like how transits affect our Natal Charts, they are relatively fleeting, not permanent. In terms of reading the chart, it kind of functions like a 'transient composite' because the event is and experience that you share equally. Unlike Horary charts, you don't necessarily have definite rulers of the individuals. Some people define the AC as one person and the DC as the other person (perhaps using the AC as the female energy and DC as the male energy, or the AC as the inquirer of the chart and DC as the other person). Others use the AC to represent the couple as one inseparable unit, and the chart as a whole to describe that unit.
I believe the FMC seems to be meant 'more' to describe the relationship than the people, while synastry describes the individuals and how they relate to each other, but I think both methods (separating or uniting the couple in symbolism) can offer insight into the first meeting influences––it just might require reading the chart twice with two separate mindsets. I think it's also good to try to figure out what best represents each person in the chart to see the chart as a 'story' with 'characters', and see how it all plays out on the 'stage' that the chart represents."

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posted May 06, 2019 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
Hey Hikaru, thank you for replying.

In synastry we have :
-My Sun parallel to his Sun/Moon
-My MC/Moon parallel to his Mercury
-My Jupiter parallel to his MC
-And my Mercury parallel to his Mercury

In our FMC we have :
-Sun contra-parallel to Venus
-Mercury & Venus // Neptune
-Jupiter // Saturn & Pluto
-Saturn // Pluto
-ASC // Mars. And contra-parallel to Jupiter
-Node // Mars. (And also contra-parallel to Jupiter, Saturn & Pluto)


Have you tried comparing the FMC to your natal and his natal, creating synastry & composite? It shows how each is affected by the meeting (synastry) and possible behaviours (composite). Of course this is temporary but if you compare to your synastry/composite you might find recurring themes. E.g. for ours, Sun conjunct Chiron is a recurring aspect.

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posted May 06, 2019 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Have you tried comparing the FMC to your natal and his natal, creating synastry & composite? It shows how each is affected by the meeting (synastry) and possible behaviours (composite). Of course this is temporary but if you compare to your synastry/composite you might find recurring themes. E.g. for ours, Sun conjunct Chiron is a recurring aspect.

I will try to do that. It's just that my feelings get in the way and I end up focusing on the negative aspects lolol. I try my best to be neutral but.... It's just a thing, whenever it's somebody else's chart I can figure things out so fast, but when it's mine and somebody's, my brain goes "uuuuuuhhhhhhhh error 404".

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posted May 06, 2019 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by itsmeyaz:
but when it's mine and somebody's, my brain goes "uuuuuuhhhhhhhh error 404".

LOL, I get that too. Blank stare at my own chart.

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itsmeyaz
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posted May 07, 2019 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 08, 2019 06:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So have you tried to do the synastry/composite? If you're still running "error 404" you can post them here.

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posted May 08, 2019 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 08, 2019 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry, what I mean is comparing the FMC to your natal to create composites/synastries for each of you. It will show you how each feels about the meeting and likely behaviours.

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posted May 08, 2019 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Sorry, what I mean is comparing the FMC to your natal to create composites/synastries for each of you. It will show you how each feels about the meeting and likely behaviours.

Ohhh! I will do that right away!

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posted May 08, 2019 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The composite FMC and my chart :

The Comp FMC and his chart :

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posted May 08, 2019 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm the inside and the FMC is outside

He's the inside circle

I haven't looked at the charts myself yet, I'd love to have some insights on it tho. And thank you so much!! xoxo

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posted May 09, 2019 07:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, his composite with the FMC actually looks pretty good, lol! The stellium there supported by Neptune/Jupiter/Mars 👍the connection feels good to him, although Uranus squares may make him come across unconventional or unpredictable.

Your chart has Neptune/Saturn square Sun... you're hesitant and unsure... maybe not sure of the direction of this r/s? But you have Venus/Mercury trine Pluto/Jupiter, sextile Moon. You're feeling the intensity of this connection and happy about it regardless of uncertainty.

The FMC Moon/Mars are conjunct his Moon, Asc on his Sun, angles conjunct, Venus/Mercury/Neptune in his 12th house... I believe he feels attracted with strong sense of intuitive connection.

The FMC Venus/Mercury/Neptune in your 5th, Moon/Mars in your 8th conjunct your Mars, Uranus on your Dsc, Asc on your Moon... Pretty romantic and sexual connection for you as well.

I noticed both your Composites with FMC have Saturn square Mars... big egos maybe?

Again this is just initial stage. It doesn't replace your Synastry/Composite.

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posted May 09, 2019 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for itsmeyaz     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooop- That is so accurate.

I'm unsure of how things may go or end up... because we haven't been communicating much. And that Saturn square Mars plays out now lmao. Because I don't want to text him first and I have a feeling he doesn't want either. Mainly because he's not much of a talker, he doesn't know how to expand a conversation and he keeps saying the same damn thing! And I got tired of feeling like I need to carry the conversation on my own. Because if I keep being the one coming up with things to say etc, it'll soon feel like I'm forcing him to talk to me.

I am happy that I met him, because the whole thing that lead to us meeting was so...crazy. Lol. But I don't know now.... If he is interested he will talk to me again, otherwise.... it is what it is I guess (?).

I was really sad about the fact that he doesn't talk to me much, or that he rather keep talking about basic superficial things. My 8H is like "GIVE ME MOORE GIVE ME DEPTH" hahaha! But I don't feel that bad anymore... We haven't talked in 3 days sooooo I can't stay feeling bad about something that may not happen.

Our synastry was pretty intense, even if our composite wasn't that intense... but yeah.

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posted May 17, 2019 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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