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abrightfutureahead
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posted May 10, 2019 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello to whoever takes the time.

I asked the universe the other night to bring a nice man into my life when the time is right for me, I woke up to a friend request from a boy from my class in high school I used to have the biggest crush on. We’ve spent hours talking on the phone and have so much in common it’s scary! I think we are eachothers missing leg of our natal t-squares creating a mutual cardinal grand cross?!

I’m hoping this is a good thing! What do you make of our charts? Our composite also has a mystic rectangle going on. Please share your wisdom guys! Thanks

My natal

His natal


Our synastry

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Can’t help but worry about all those red lines in the composite, but hoping the rectangle would help ease things?

Thank you!


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posted May 10, 2019 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
First, you have to tell me how you managed to expedite this request, lol. 😅

I supposed both ToBs are accurate?

This is how I intuitively feel about your grand-crosses. His Mars completing it should be able to help you with being more assertive, courageous etc but he doesn't have a healthy Mars himself - involved in his natal t-square with Saturn/Uranus/Neptune/Chiron so it seems he's a rebel with misdirected aggression and can be very hard on himself. He may influence you with this energy. On the other hand, your afflicted Libra Moon will be inclined to give him some sort of balance but struggling... so this is like a case of 2 drug addicts trying to help each other to quit (lol)... but not saying it cannot work.. it can as long as both are aware of their own weaknesses then this can be like 2 people in a rehab support group... I encourage you, you encourage me. Hope I'm making sense.

Btw, he has Venus conjunct Pluto in 5th house so he has high potential to be very obsessive and controlling in love. Your Gemini Venus might need some getting used to.

However, the Composite looks awesome! Some challenges but it shows potential. Difficult aspects between Sun-Moon, Sun-Mars, Moon-Mars, Pluto-Venus/Mars will bring ego/emotional conflicts and controlling love but intense attraction at the same time. Your 4th house stellium is great for family relationship with Juno in the mix and Venus conjunct IC + Jupiter/Eros on the Asc. Uranus/Neptune/Saturn also look friendly although Uranus in 7th will present an unconventional partnership but because it doesn't have bad aspects so I don't think it'll pose much of a problem. You also have strong Chiron placed in 1st house aspecting all the inner/outer planets. It will bring about a deeply healing relationship. Seems like if a relationship were to happen, it has potential to become a marriage.

Btw, I just started a thread on 12th house overlays and I noticed you have several planets in each others' 12th house. Do share how it feels in my thread! 🙏

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posted May 10, 2019 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your quick response.

You hit the nail on the head about him being a bit of a rebel. That’s why I always fancied him in school he was always so cheeky and wild and causing havoc lol. He sure seems hard on himself and lacking such sympathy and emotional support throughout his life. We’ve had some deep chats. I’m hoping my moon releasing his tsquare wi be the care and understanding he needs.

So funny he told me about in school how bad his adhd was and it’s something I struggle with to this day! So nice to have someone who actually understands my funny ways!
I do think the fact we are eachothers missing leg has got to be healing. Lots of Chiron going on too, WoW I hope we could get married 😍🤞🏻 Then the universe definitely did hear my thoughts lol.

I will post an update on your 12th house post if/once things unravel 😊 thank you and do feel free to dig a little deeper for me

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posted May 10, 2019 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtP-MKB_VmA

Composite looks decent. Watch out for ego-conflicts and over-indulgence.

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posted May 10, 2019 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aw, your placements are so close to my boyfriend's, and your crush's are so close to mine!
and i did the same thing, did a spell to meet 'someone' with certain qualities, and i heard voices telling me he would be at a certain place, and i went there and he was the only person there!
i think this is a soul mate connection for sure. the pattern completion and that mystic rectangle can make you stronger together, and can be really healing to your individual t-squares. it probably won't be easy, but it will be worth it.

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posted May 10, 2019 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the video link and response Bismarck,

Selenite, how interesting you found your boyfriend like that. I hope we are soulmates, fed up wasting my time on relationships that weren’t meant to be.
My last few boyfriends over the past 5 years ive posted on here and all said not compatible, yet I still tried to be hopeful for the synastry and composite to play out just as I was told it would.!

Actually feel like if I’m told now im single there’s no potential I’m not even gonna bother!

Well, I will have to see how this pans out I guess. He’s very keen to meet me and seems genuine, I’ve just started my saturn return so hope true love is now the right time for me. Without even seeing him all these years just our conversations on the phone I am very attracted to his personality for sure, and my downfall is I always need that psychical attraction even when I know that person has nothing in common with me.

I always seem to go for mood and introverted guys. (Plutonian?) but I told myself I want to try something different and more of an outgoing and happy-go-lucky sort of man. As maybe there’s where I’ve been going wrong!? 🙈 he definitely is all the things I have been wanting to go for moving forward, it just seems rather uncanny how The past few weeks I’ve been talking to my girlfriends and them agreeing with me that I always go for the same type of man.

Let’s hope the universe really did answer me 😄

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posted May 10, 2019 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Selenite:
Aw, your placements are so close to my boyfriend's, and your crush's are so close to mine!
and i did the same thing, did a spell to meet 'someone' with certain qualities, and i heard voices telling me he would be at a certain place, and i went there and he was the only person there!
i think this is a soul mate connection for sure. the pattern completion and that mystic rectangle can make you stronger together, and can be really healing to your individual t-squares. it probably won't be easy, but it will be worth it.

What kind of spell?

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posted May 10, 2019 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i sort of cherry picked from some other spells,
basically during the total lunar eclipse of sept. 2015 i got a black candle and carved it with symbols i don't remember, a jar filled with spring water, and a silver coin (a quarter but whatever)
wrote down what i was looking for on a piece of paper, burnt the paper under the maximum eclipse time and put the remnants in the jar filled with spring water, put the quarter in the jar and sealed it up. then lit some symbolic incense and drenched the jar in the smoke and left it under the moon for the night.
i still have the jar with the water and we're still in a relationship. lol... since then i've gone to the same place with him on other eclipses and full moons and wrote down more intentions and put them in the same jar. it's pretty gross now. i might drink it one day

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posted May 10, 2019 10:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selenite     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
Thanks for the video link and response Bismarck,

Selenite, how interesting you found your boyfriend like that. I hope we are soulmates, fed up wasting my time on relationships that weren’t meant to be.
My last few boyfriends over the past 5 years ive posted on here and all said not compatible, yet I still tried to be hopeful for the synastry and composite to play out just as I was told it would.!

Actually feel like if I’m told now im single there’s no potential I’m not even gonna bother!

Well, I will have to see how this pans out I guess. He’s very keen to meet me and seems genuine, I’ve just started my saturn return so hope true love is now the right time for me. Without even seeing him all these years just our conversations on the phone I am very attracted to his personality for sure, and my downfall is I always need that psychical attraction even when I know that person has nothing in common with me.

I always seem to go for mood and introverted guys. (Plutonian?) but I told myself I want to try something different and more of an outgoing and happy-go-lucky sort of man. As maybe there’s where I’ve been going wrong!? 🙈 he definitely is all the things I have been wanting to go for moving forward, it just seems rather uncanny how The past few weeks I’ve been talking to my girlfriends and them agreeing with me that I always go for the same type of man.

Let’s hope the universe really did answer me 😄


what house is your saturn in? and aspects?
well, if you want my advice, i'd say just go with the flow and don't try to put labels on things too soon, feel it out, no pressure. that's what i did after years of getting into 'relationships' immediately and slowly hating each other after 8 months because we weren't compatible. i think it's good that you were open to something different, sounds like you're starting a new cycle

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posted May 11, 2019 01:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Selenite:
i sort of cherry picked from some other spells,
basically during the total lunar eclipse of sept. 2015 i got a black candle and carved it with symbols i don't remember, a jar filled with spring water, and a silver coin (a quarter but whatever)
wrote down what i was looking for on a piece of paper, burnt the paper under the maximum eclipse time and put the remnants in the jar filled with spring water, put the quarter in the jar and sealed it up. then lit some symbolic incense and drenched the jar in the smoke and left it under the moon for the night.
i still have the jar with the water and we're still in a relationship. lol... since then i've gone to the same place with him on other eclipses and full moons and wrote down more intentions and put them in the same jar. it's pretty gross now. i might drink it one day

Wow, that sounds rather complicated, like you read it from a book somewhere.

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posted May 11, 2019 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
selenite,
Thanks for your advice he’s being very full on with me but will try not to rush things. Glad your spell worked for you, but don’t drink it, for goodness sake!? 😂🙈

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posted May 11, 2019 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My saturn is in Capricorn in the 9th house. Just started my saturn return start of this year. It’s conjunct uranus and Neptune, sextile Pluto, trine my ascendant and opposite chiron😄

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posted May 11, 2019 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
I always seem to go for mood and introverted guys. (Plutonian?) but I told myself I want to try something different and more of an outgoing and happy-go-lucky sort of man. As maybe there’s where I’ve been going wrong!? 🙈 he definitely is all the things I have been wanting to go for moving forward, it just seems rather uncanny how The past few weeks I’ve been talking to my girlfriends and them agreeing with me that I always go for the same type of man.

My dear, that's because you have a Scorpio descendant with Pluto conjunct it! You're gonna attract Plutonians, and this guy has Scorpio Pluto/Venus conjunct in 5th house. He WILL be plutonic in love.

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posted May 11, 2019 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for explaining that for me Bismarck.

That makes sense, so that is a good thing then? I do like the intensity in a relationship but with my many air placements I can’t stand controlling behaviour.

Anything else you see in our chats please do share.!

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posted May 12, 2019 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
Thank you for explaining that for me Bismarck.

That makes sense, so that is a good thing then? I do like the intensity in a relationship but with my many air placements I can’t stand controlling behaviour.

Anything else you see in our chats please do share.!


Are you replying to me or Bismarck? Lol

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posted May 12, 2019 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry Bismarck,
That comment was for Hikaru.
Do feel free to give a bit more input 😁

Todd pointedness out there was a glitch with my chart I’ve posted, once adjusted we have Venus conjunct valentine. Anyone know it this is a marker for true love?

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posted May 13, 2019 03:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
we have Venus conjunct valentine. Anyone know it this is a marker for true love?

That sounds potential for true love to develop... but remember the chart doesn't make a relationship happen. YOU have to make it happen, LOL!

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posted May 13, 2019 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Hikaru,
Well he keeps telling me how he’s sure there’s something between us and he thinks it could have been a past life 😳 can’t believe he feels the same way as I do. Still haven’t met him yet but spending hours talking on the phone. So last night we realised, not only was we in the same year at school, but his uncles ex wife is married to my grandad. And we used to play together as children... freaky!
I hope I fancy him as much in the flesh im defo attracted to his personality 🤞🏻
Have to arrange a date and wait and see

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posted May 13, 2019 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds great! Keep us posted.

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posted May 19, 2019 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 24, 2019 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Bismarck2

Update for you...

This is unusual for me and have only experienced this feeling once before. I feel madly in love..😳

We are still talking a lot on the phone and txting all day and he’s very intense and full on with me saying how he’s not letting our connection go and he’s been waiting so long for me.
First time we met he was very shy and nervous and barely gave me any eye contact. I was even sure I was that Into him myself yet when I speak to him on the phone I’m so attracted to his personality.

The second time we met we spend the night staring into eachothers eyes and him telling me in a few weeks he thinks he will be madly in love with me.
So passionate with eachother and saying deep stuff and eachothers secrets. Insane connection.

But now I feel scared and wish to maybe stop contact and run away!! I do get intensely attracted to a romantic affair and find them beautiful or interesting to talk to, make me laugh and good vibes etc, but this is different!!

When he left and looked at me I just wished he would stay with me forever and realise how much this man can hurt me. It freaks me out and I’m half considering ending this now 😳 my Venus in Gemini/moon in libra I wouldn’t say I’m that deep and much more attracted to beauty.

Would you mind digging a little deeper as we are supposed to meet tomorrow and I’m actually scared of my feelings right now lol.
This is beyond a superficial lust and I don’t want my heart trampled on.. a few other users have said it looks one sided but he seems genuine and sincere.
He said to me yesterday he rolled over in bed and swore he felt me kiss his cheek in his sleep. It’s like some past life connection feeling for sure!

Thank you Bismarck, I’m hoping as yourself and Todd have said it seems there’s marriage potential I can handle my feelings and not run away From him lol

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posted May 31, 2019 11:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 31, 2019 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
@Bismarck2

Update for you...

This is unusual for me and have only experienced this feeling once before. I feel madly in love..😳

We are still talking a lot on the phone and txting all day and he’s very intense and full on with me saying how he’s not letting our connection go and he’s been waiting so long for me.
First time we met he was very shy and nervous and barely gave me any eye contact. I was even sure I was that Into him myself yet when I speak to him on the phone I’m so attracted to his personality.

The second time we met we spend the night staring into eachothers eyes and him telling me in a few weeks he thinks he will be madly in love with me.
So passionate with eachother and saying deep stuff and eachothers secrets. Insane connection.

But now I feel scared and wish to maybe stop contact and run away!! I do get intensely attracted to a romantic affair and find them beautiful or interesting to talk to, make me laugh and good vibes etc, but this is different!!

When he left and looked at me I just wished he would stay with me forever and realise how much this man can hurt me. It freaks me out and I’m half considering ending this now 😳 my Venus in Gemini/moon in libra I wouldn’t say I’m that deep and much more attracted to beauty.

Would you mind digging a little deeper as we are supposed to meet tomorrow and I’m actually scared of my feelings right now lol.
This is beyond a superficial lust and I don’t want my heart trampled on.. a few other users have said it looks one sided but he seems genuine and sincere.
He said to me yesterday he rolled over in bed and swore he felt me kiss his cheek in his sleep. It’s like some past life connection feeling for sure!

Thank you Bismarck, I’m hoping as yourself and Todd have said it seems there’s marriage potential I can handle my feelings and not run away From him lol


Sorry I'm so late to this. Didn't see it. How are things going?

If you want to go deeper, try looking at attraction asteroids and soulmate pairs. The attraction asteroids are obvious(valentine,amor,juno,aphrodite,cupid,eros). You could also look at destiny asteroids such as karma, destinn,fortuna, and vertex. Lastly, you can look at soulmate asteroid pairs osiris/isis, eros/psyche, pluto/persephone or proserpina.

Use this as a guideline: http://www.tamsoft.co.in/soulmates.html

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posted June 03, 2019 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Bismarck,
It is going well thank you. We both fell for eachother straight away, both have this feeling of being together before and that we are already married or will be.

That’s great, I’ve been looking into those soulmate pairs etc, just realised I don’t know how to turn the aspect grid on to show aspects to asteroids on Astro.com 🤷🏻‍♀️
Been looking into it feeling sad there’s no asteroids making any contact when I’m seeing them conjunct on the chart wheel *sigh* can anyone tell me how to enable it?

So we are taking things slow, well trying to. But when we are together we spend the time staring deeply into eachothers eyes for ages not talking lol. There is a lot of passion there as well but this is a sweet kind of affection like a true soulmate bond. Have only felt like this once before with my first love.
He said to me last night - “please, I know I’ve not got that much to offer right now but please realise I’m a good man and be mine.”
I told him I’m not ready to be in a relationship yet but it’s obvious we are smitten lol.

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posted June 04, 2019 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for abrightfutureahead     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Ok so I can see:
Sun conjunct Karma (exact)
Valentine Conjunct Juno (2 degrees)
Valentine sextile Aphrodite (exact)
Valentine Conjunct Alma (exact)
Psyche trine Eros (1 degree orb)
Tyche Conjunct Fortuna (2 degrees)
Aphrodite Conjunct venus and Jupiter (3 degrees)
Alma Conjunct Juno (1 degrees)
Alma Conjunct Alma (1 degrees)
Alma sextile Aphrodite (exact)
Union Conjunct south node (1 degree)


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