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starstruck1
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posted May 12, 2019 12:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello knowflakes,

This is my first ever post after lurking for like 14 years lol...

Anyway this is a synastry chart of my ex (we are mates and talk every other day) with his new love interest and the synastry it just wow....super sexual, karmic and fated by the look of it.....I feel like they will end up getting married – I actually thought this before looking at the charts for some reason – even though it seems like a weird match….Its very plutonian – they work together and have for a few years.

There is something beautiful about the aspects, some very close easy ones and some that look so unstable.

Her TOB is unknown.

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In contrast the composite has no inner planet aspects, which I have never seen before.

Would love your thoughts on the charts!!

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Bismarck2
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posted May 12, 2019 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't think it will go far, to be honest, but don't take my word for it.

Venus opposite Saturn and both Saturns opposing in synastry isn't the best feeling in the world. Add to that a mars/pluto opposition, domestic abuse?

As for the composite, no inner-planet aspects in the composite usually spells doom, from what I've heard.

Lastly, composite sun opposite pluto, yikes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdY5qB8g0w4

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Hikaru29
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posted May 12, 2019 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Who is who in that synastry?

Firstly, we don't how her Moon is aspected because her ToB unknown and so we don't know for sure if there're any Moon aspects to inner planets in their Composite. But if we were to take the chart as it is, no aspects AT ALL among inner planets is not a good sign. It means they don't have enough substance to deal with that Mars-Saturn and Sun-Pluto oppositions and the 2 elusive/deceptive Neptune squares.

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posted May 12, 2019 07:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
Don't think it will go far, to be honest, but don't take my word for it.

Venus opposite Saturn and both Saturns opposing in synastry isn't the best feeling in the world. Add to that a mars/pluto opposition, domestic abuse?

As for the composite, no inner-planet aspects in the composite usually spells doom, from what I've heard.

Lastly, composite sun opposite pluto, yikes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdY5qB8g0w4


These are the exact aspects I considered pretty bad....but I have seen a few limited explanations that makes me think...hmmm maybe, if they evolved enough together could they struggle through and grow and learn, death rebirth kinda thing.

He doesn't enter relationships lightly, he loves selflessly and unconditionally like no one I know and would be very patient...Definately no abuse except verbal, he unconsciously reacts very strongly and aggressively, hence why we ended (10+ years for us)

They certainly have more positive than negative...and all that saturn would glue them together yes? And the venus north node conjunct....

idk

thanks for your thoughts...

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posted May 12, 2019 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Who is who in that synastry?

Firstly, we don't how her Moon is aspected because her ToB unknown and so we don't know for sure if there're any Moon aspects to inner planets in their Composite. But if we were to take the chart as it is, no aspects AT ALL among inner planets is not a good sign. It means they don't have enough substance to deal with that Mars-Saturn and Sun-Pluto oppositions and the 2 elusive/deceptive Neptune squares.


Thanks Hirkaru,

She is outside....

Yes TOB unknown so yes this could be incorrect but I did play with a few different times with the same result, it wouldn't move much would it? But I agree something is missing here...

He has said it is very easy, they both have a lot going on personally and are being very gentle with each other.

Its about 6mth old and they are committed and spend a lot of time together.

He could be making it out to be better than what it is to save face tbh....

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posted May 12, 2019 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starstruck1:
These are the exact aspects I considered pretty bad....but I have seen a few limited explanations that makes me think...hmmm maybe, if they evolved enough together could they struggle through and grow and learn, death rebirth kinda thing.

He doesn't enter relationships lightly, he loves selflessly and unconditionally like no one I know and would be very patient...Definately no abuse except verbal, he unconsciously reacts very strongly and aggressively, hence why we ended (10+ years for us)

They certainly have more positive than negative...and all that saturn would glue them together yes? And the venus north node conjunct....

idk

thanks for your thoughts...


They have a Grand trine in the composite between venus, jupiter and saturn. That will help somewhat with that Sun/pluto opposition. Also, that sun/neptune trine will delude them into thinking things are better than they are.

Synastry only matters so much.

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posted May 12, 2019 05:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Bismarck2:
They have a Grand trine in the composite between venus, jupiter and saturn. That will help somewhat with that Sun/pluto opposition. Also, that sun/neptune trine will delude them into thinking things are better than they are.

Synastry only matters so much.


Thanks for sharing bismark,

Great thoughts....Also moon conjunct neptune in synastry enhances the delusion I think?

I will definitely update this post if these negative energies do play out and they end up breaking up or otherwise...

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posted May 12, 2019 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@todd would love to hear you thoughts in these charts

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Hikaru29
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posted May 13, 2019 06:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starstruck1:
He has said it is very easy, they both have a lot going on personally and are being very gentle with each other.

Its about 6mth old and they are committed and spend a lot of time together.

He could be making it out to be better than what it is to save face tbh....


They do have a lot of easy aspects in Synastry: Sun trine Sun, Venus/Moon DW, Venus trine Mercury, Venus sextile Venus and DW Venus-Jupiter makes it a very loving, happy connection. Her Jupiter/Neptune conjunct his MC so she probably inspires him to pursue his goals/dreams and gives him a lot of creative ideas.

And these aspects will be glue: Saturn-Venus DW, Saturn conjunct Moon, Pluto-Moon DW, Neptune-Moon/Venus DW (+ Moon in partner's 12H is an intuitive emotional connection), Sun trine Sun (+ Sun in partner's 5H), Venus conjunct Node/Chiron, Vertex trine Sun/Moon, her Mercury/Venus/Saturn on his IC...

From the Synastry, it's easy to see why they feel good together. However, Synastry merely shows how you make each other feel but IME it doesn't foretell a relationship outcome because we're often affected by circumstances, e.g. you might really love each other & seek commitment but somehow when you come together as a couple, your energies don't converge so discords happen causing feelings to cool off. This is seen in a Composite.. and you wanna see at least one conjunction between planets. Here they have none, to top it off no aspects among inner planets, that's why I don't feel confident about it. That trine of Venus-Saturn-Jupiter is nice... adds to feelings of commitment and love, but I'm not sure if it's enough to hold up in the long run especially when the relationship goes into a lull.

Whenever you see Neptune hard aspects, there's always a need to be extra honest with each other and yourselves. This is a theme in their relationship as they have Neptune conj/opp Moon in Synastry which culminated as a square in Composite. Emotional delusion & deception... this may also manifest as hiding their true feelings from each other or self-deception (believing in what they wanna believe).

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posted May 13, 2019 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Hikaru,

I just realised that he is on the outside, apologies, but thinking that won't change the interpretation you gave.

Yes I also see lots of glue here, I think they both need it to work as they need each other, its a ballast of sorts.

I have read the when saturn, neptune and pluto are involved it can be tricky.

This site discusses the combo and makes some interesting points....
https://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-and-the-love-bite.html

I think with everything discussed here this relationship is likely to run along nicely yet will likely implode at some point in the future and poof its gone.

Thanks again for sharing your thoughts.

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posted May 14, 2019 05:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starstruck1:
I have read the when saturn, neptune and pluto are involved it can be tricky.

This site discusses the combo and makes some interesting points....
https://www.cosmitec-astrological-compatibility-advice.com/astrology-and-the-love-bite.html


Seems like a lot of charts will easily have the "love bite" configuration, no? E.g. he has Venus conjunct Saturn, trine Neptune in his Natal. I have Neptune conjunct Moon, both opposite Venus. In Synastry, his Venus trine my Moon/Neptune, sextile my Venus, semi-square my Pluto.

Love bite?

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posted May 14, 2019 07:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starstruck1     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Seems like a lot of charts will easily have the "love bite" configuration, no? E.g. he has Venus conjunct Saturn, trine Neptune in his Natal. I have Neptune conjunct Moon, both opposite Venus. In Synastry, his Venus trine my Moon/Neptune, sextile my Venus, semi-square my Pluto.

Love bite?


Potentially, Ive not analysed enough charts to say, but the aspects in this synastry certainly points that way with so many connections, and some harsh ones at that.

I also neglected to mention that her venus/mars conjunction is exact on his s/m midpoint.....which then opposes his pluto square by both his sun and moon.

What you mention in your chart seems rather tame in comparison.

Honestly, from the outside it is hard to know what exactly goes on, plus being it so early in the relationship....

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Hikaru29
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posted May 14, 2019 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starstruck1:
Potentially, Ive not analysed enough charts to say, but the aspects in this synastry certainly points that way with so many connections, and some harsh ones at that.

Honestly, from the outside it is hard to know what exactly goes on, plus being it so early in the relationship....


It's not uncommon to find a mix of good & harsh aspects to outer planets and theirs are mostly harmonious.

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