posted May 13, 2019 03:20 PM            

For those who have Chiron-Venus/Saturn in synastry, your experiences were more painful or healing? And was it really an intense attraction for you?

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These aspects are powerful indeed. Look for the conjunction, trine, and sextile, in particular, as an indicator of true love. There is a healing quality to the relationship—one in which the natives feel that the love they have can heal the wounds they might have accumulated in relationships past. These people feel a strong need to be together, set up house together, and go the distance with each other. There can be a true feeling of joy in the love they share with one another. When the aspect is challenging, however, there can be irrational behavior and reactions to each other that are based on wounds of the past, carried forward into the present relationship.

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Another interpretation ( https://lunar-alienn.tumblr.com/post/161144616394/chiron-aspects-in-synastry )-
"Venus/Chiron aspects: The couple feels they’ve basically “found their true love” they heal each others hearts from all the past relationships when you have sextile or trine, maybe conjunct. With harsh aspects (opposition, square) this can indicate a huge heartbreak, it’s an intense and insane connection. But as long as there’s communication, it can work."

"Saturn/Chiron aspects: Harmonious aspect from Saturn /Chiron indicate the couple helping eachother grow through “discipline”. They might do this by helping eachother not fall out of routine, and accomplishing the things they need to/ want to get done. With harsh aspects the saturn person can be “controlling”. The disharmonious aspect can cause the feeling of being stuck in a relationship. Communication and honesty is a way this aspect can work."

posted May 13, 2019 11:15 PM            

yes it was true love, but it didnt last because other aspects prevented that - mostly mars opp saturn IMO and our individual natals coming into play...his moon sqaure pluto mostly - A caustic tounge when angry...sheesh!

My Juno was conjunct exact his moon - we spoke of marriage but I ended up not wanting that due to our issues and was more than happy without.

posted May 13, 2019 11:35 PM            

we have a lot of easy aspects to chiron in our composite too along with a heavy saturn that has a lot of easy aspects too

edit: as for amor, i just have that on my descendant natal so it hits her north node

been together 14 years so i definitely love her lol, and we've definitely spent a lot of our relationship working past our childhood ****

posted May 14, 2019 03:33 AM            

So I’m hoping I’ve found my true love, we went to school together and I always had a crush on him. He found me on Facebook and we’ve spent hours talking on the phone every night where he keeps telling me he feels we’ve been together in a past life or something we have a strong connection.

We are meeting tomorrow night so I will find out if there’s still a spark there..

Here is our aspect grid, we have Venus trine Chiron EXACT and it’s a double whammy with Venus quincunx Chiron EXACT.

posted May 14, 2019 03:47 AM            

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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
Also notice we have saturn opposite Chiron double whammy. Hmmm.. our chirons are conjunct as we are the same age. As you’ve seen from our composite our Chiron is making contacts to all the inner and outer planets. Hope this means healing/soulmate connection and not a whole lot of pain and wounding eachother 😳

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Chiron is not indicative of "soulmates." Sadly, many of those chiron aspects look awful.

posted May 14, 2019 03:51 AM            

Relational psychology, or attachment theory, says that we are drawn to romantic relational dynamics which remind us of the early relationship we have formed with our primary caregiver during our first 18 months in the world. Later on, the romantic attachments we form that feel "real" to us tend to have a tinge of our relationship with our primary caregiver. This is not foolproof by any means, but reading about it has taught me a great deal about how and why we use the word "real" about romantic relationship. For the most part, I think we use the word "real" interchangeably with "deep" and mostly "familiar". I suppose this means that whatever we tend to call "real" has potential to heal us, change us or to hurt us even more, because it comes from the past.

posted May 14, 2019 04:15 AM            

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Originally posted by abrightfutureahead:
Hi Hikaru,
I wanted to reply to your post as you’ve been so kind with your insight on mine..
so I have this aspect with this man I’ve been telling you about and we both feel like we are soulmates and haven’t even met yet after all these years!
Finding out we used to play together as small children just seems even more fated his aunty is now married to my grandad it’s just very bizarre!

So I’m hoping I’ve found my true love, we went to school together and I always had a crush on him. He found me on Facebook and we’ve spent hours talking on the phone every night where he keeps telling me he feels we’ve been together in a past life or something we have a strong connection.

We are meeting tomorrow night so I will find out if there’s still a spark there..

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Here is our aspect grid, we have Venus trine Chiron EXACT and it’s a double whammy with Venus quincunx Chiron EXACT.

Hope this means true love with all the other strong indicators going on, hope you’re right about this one 😁

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You have Venus semi-sextile (not quincunx) Chiron, and although you have Venus trine Chiron but you also have DW Chiron opposite Uranus/Neptune/Saturn and DW Chiron square/conj Mars... 🧐

posted May 14, 2019 04:31 AM            

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Originally posted by starstruck1:
I have had this one with someone (wide 9deg) to venus and lots of lovely trine and sextiles both ways...one oppo to jupiter

yes it was true love, but it didnt last because other aspects prevented that - mostly mars opp saturn IMO and our individual natals coming into play...his moon sqaure pluto mostly - A caustic tounge when angry...sheesh!

My Juno was conjunct exact his moon - we spoke of marriage but I ended up not wanting that due to our issues and was more than happy without.

But I really believe that these aspects are helpful but certainly don't point to everlasting love....

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Do you find the aspect healing or painful?

posted May 14, 2019 04:46 AM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
I'm not sure Chiron contacts provide unconditional love automatically. I think they definitely awaken really complicated feelings. I think I enjoy the soft aspects better. I've experienced a Moon-Chiron conjunction on one side and a Venus-Chiron conjunction on the other. It's very intense. Not very light-hearted at all.

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I also don't think Chiron is unconditional love. Like what you said, it's more like someone awakening very complicated feelings in us, both good & bad. When someone does that to me, my first emotion is usually pain (if it's some past wounds) and then either healing (by that person) or more pain (inflicted by that person in a similar way I've been hurt before). That has been my experience how Chiron hurts and heals.

posted May 14, 2019 04:48 AM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
been together 14 years so i definitely love her lol, and we've definitely spent a lot of our relationship working past our childhood ****

we actually spoke about that yesterday, the difference between what we grew up with and what we've learned being together

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posted May 14, 2019 05:52 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
I also don't think Chiron is unconditional love. Like what you said, it's more like someone awakening very complicated feelings in us, both good & bad. When someone does that to me, my first emotion is usually pain (if it's some past wounds) and then either healing (by that person) or more pain (inflicted by that person in a similar way I've been hurt before). That has been my experience how Chiron hurts and heals.

Regarding Chiron/Venus, I wonder if the feeling of true love and desire to go the distance and be together is felt by only 1 person or both?

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I suspect Chiron contacts in synastry might be better if they're mutual in intensity and likeness in some way...

About the healing aspect: I really don't think that Chiron contacts translate to healing or wounding automatically and without effort. I think it requires a lot of energy and attention. To go back to the myth, isn't Chiron the wounded healer, wounded in a way that will never heal? Chiron's wounds are never healed but forgotten to the extent that it puts an effort into healing the other. Which necessitates an amount of selflessness with Chiron contacts, I think. One's ability to heal is proportionate to the willingness to hear and heal the other party, I guess.

posted May 14, 2019 08:47 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
You worked through past emotional wounds together and that's definitely healing, IMO.

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yeah we've both been through a lot together and separately so it's been a big part of our relationship getting through that kind of ****

in our composite venus, sun, and mars are all trine chiron (our venus is conjunct our sun, it's also conjunct pluto but sun and pluto aren't conjunct) and we have a sextile from our composite north node (4th house) to chiron as well

healing through being together has been a huge theme in our relationship, but it's been difficult in a lot of ways too

that saturn conjunct ascendant (it also sextiles mars and mercury and trines our moon) from the 12th being there along with all the chiron definitely adds a level of commitment to it and if there wasn't heavy commitment i don't think it would be what it is

posted May 14, 2019 02:54 PM            

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Originally posted by HieronymusTush:
I suspect Chiron contacts in synastry might be better if they're mutual in intensity and likeness in some way...

About the healing aspect: I really don't think that Chiron contacts translate to healing or wounding automatically and without effort. I think it requires a lot of energy and attention. To go back to the myth, isn't Chiron the wounded healer, wounded in a way that will never heal? Chiron's wounds are never healed but forgotten to the extent that it puts an effort into healing the other. Which necessitates an amount of selflessness with Chiron contacts, I think. One's ability to heal is proportionate to the willingness to hear and heal the other party, I guess.

I can imagine something like this throbbing like hell, giving one a very uncomfortable feeling if it catches a person at a time in their life where they have no energy or willingness to face personal issues.

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My experience is that Chiron can reopen old wounds unintentionally. E.g. in my case we somehow reminded each other of our exes which were painful memories. It got to a point where I even called him by the wrong name! We told each other about all our painful memories and promised we'll never do the same (whatever they did to us) to one another and that in itself was healing. There were other stuff too... at one point he was like raking up 2 decades of my pain.

The process of healing was a conscious effort but reopening of past wounds and the hurt were unintentional as we were unaware how our behaviour was rubbing salt on their past wounds.

posted May 14, 2019 03:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
in our composite venus, sun, and mars are all trine chiron (our venus is conjunct our sun, it's also conjunct pluto but sun and pluto aren't conjunct) and we have a sextile from our composite north node (4th house) to chiron as well

healing through being together has been a huge theme in our relationship, but it's been difficult in a lot of ways too

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