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Annerice
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posted May 15, 2019 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello everybody!
Just checked a secondary conversed progressed chart of myself and the guy i'm interested in (progressed to our current age). To my surprise, almost all his planets are conjuct too close (1-2 degree) to my planets, except for the ascendant.
Is it significant? What does it mean??
Incidentally, my forward progressed chart for now resembles his natal one.
What could it mean??

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Stoika7
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posted May 15, 2019 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
Hello everybody!
Just checked a secondary conversed progressed chart of myself and the guy i'm interested in (progressed to our current age). To my surprise, almost all his planets are conjuct too close (1-2 degree) to my planets, except for the ascendant.
Is it significant? What does it mean??
Incidentally, my forward progressed chart for now resembles his natal one.
What could it mean??


Hi Annerice, if your dates of birth are close, then the progressed chart might show those conjunctions. The fact that your progressed chart looks like his natal is more interesting... can you post those charts?

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Annerice
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posted May 15, 2019 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Annerice, if your dates of birth are close, then the progressed chart might show those conjunctions. The fact that your progressed chart looks like his natal is more interesting... can you post those charts? [/QUOTE

Hi Stoika)

He is 39 days younger than me.
As for my progressed and his natal charts, i did post them in another thread earlier, do you remember?? You were impressed with the synchronicity.

But now my attention caught this prediction method: conversed progressions which seems to be popular in synastry. So when i progress his chart to our current age (year of 2019), i get my natal chart! So i am wondering, is also the conversed progression valid?

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Stoika7
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posted May 15, 2019 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
Hi Stoika)

He is 39 days younger than me.
As for my progressed and his natal charts, i did post them in another thread earlier, do you remember?? You were impressed with the synchronicity.

But now my attention caught this prediction method: conversed progressions which seems to be popular in synastry. So when i progress his chart to our current age (year of 2019), i get my natal chart! So i am wondering, is also the conversed progression valid?


Yes, I do remember, sorry! but I did not remeber it was you, lol
I guess it is valid... and I'm still impressed!
Has anything signficant happened in the meantime ? I mean, it looks like there's a strong synchronicity between you two...

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Annerice
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posted May 16, 2019 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yes, I do remember, sorry! but I did not remeber it was you, lol
I guess it is valid... and I'm still impressed!
Has anything signficant happened in the meantime ? I mean, it looks like there's a strong synchronicity between you two...


No problem)
Nothing significant, just slight things fir the moment))) the other day we had such a strange thing: i sent him a message which he had not seen, but he called me exactly on that subject about which i had written him. He was amazed))) he knows nothing about astrology:-D

Ok, so about conversed progressions: do we compare its aspects to natal chart or to forward progressed chart?? It is somewhat confusing to me.

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posted May 16, 2019 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Stoika7
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posted May 16, 2019 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
No problem)
Nothing significant, just slight things fir the moment))) the other day we had such a strange thing: i sent him a message which he had not seen, but he called me exactly on that subject about which i had written him. He was amazed))) he knows nothing about astrology:-D

Ok, so about conversed progressions: do we compare its aspects to natal chart or to forward progressed chart?? It is somewhat confusing to me.


Oh, I'm not surprised since I've looked at those charts... I bet whether you got closer, these synchronicities might happen again and again...
I think you should use both with different meanings. The natal charts and synastry is always about the potential compatibility between the two. The progressed charts are used to see how things are developing at the time you pull out the chart, it is about timing. I can't remember how your synastry/composite looks like though, I will check the old post.

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posted May 16, 2019 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I checked the charts again in the old post... I was impressed again about your progressed chart and his natal chart! I think you should meet in person... it all really looks significant, and you also have Chiron conjunct Chiron in synastry. Even though, there are a few challenging aspects... Neptune square Saturn and Mars square Uranus. It might be a very exciting and fated meeting, but those squares look like "nothing's as it seems" kind of message. Maybe just things might turn out in a different way as you expected... or you might look like "soulmates" at first, and then find out that something doesn't really match as expected. I don't find the Composite though, would you mind to post it ?

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posted May 17, 2019 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I checked the charts again in the old post... I was impressed again about your progressed chart and his natal chart! I think you should meet in person... it all really looks significant, and you also have Chiron conjunct Chiron in synastry. Even though, there are a few challenging aspects... Neptune square Saturn and Mars square Uranus. It might be a very exciting and fated meeting, but those squares look like "nothing's as it seems" kind of message. Maybe just things might turn out in a different way as you expected... or you might look like "soulmates" at first, and then find out that something doesn't really match as expected. I don't find the Composite though, would you mind to post it ?

I have both these challenging aspects in my natal chart, he has only neptute square saturn.
Here is our composite

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Stoika7
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posted May 18, 2019 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Annerice:
I have both these challenging aspects in my natal chart, he has only neptute square saturn.
Here is our composite (i have to put 12 a.m. as his birthtime):


Tha problem though is that the Composite comes from the synastry midpoints and it shows the relationship dynamics, so the fact that Composite Mars/NN square Sun/Mercury is not positive, neither softened by natal aspects... The Composite confirms the challenging aspects, I think. Especially Composite Saturn/Jupiter square Venus and Neptune though. It might point to potential infidelty and/or delusion/disappointment... There is an exciting vibe and especially the drive to accomplish things together, a creative energy and purpose, with Jupiter conjunct Mars and North Node, this is a goof aspect for working as a team. Uranus conjunct Moon is also exciting and can be love at first sight, with Mars/Jupiter there can be a powerful attraction, and Sun/Mercury is an excellent intellectual bond. But this is square to Mars/NN in 8th house, so things might go out of control somehow or just turn out differently than as expected. For instance, even though there might be a deep attraction or an exciting sexual compatibility, one of the two might not be emotionally on the same page of the other. Since Venus is in 12th house, and Neptune square Saturn, the relationship might even never actually start and stay on a platonic level... North Node/Mars in 8th house trine Venus looks fated though, so maybe a meeting in person might actually occur... this obviously doesn't explain why you have such weird synchronicity and chart matching with him. Uranus square to Vertex looks fated meeting playing out in an unexpected way or very unusual, and maybe a psychic unconscious link, but it can also point to a "fated" physical distance despite a strong potential "soulmate" bond.

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Annerice
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posted May 19, 2019 01:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Annerice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Stoika! For your usual interesting explanations and of course, your time and attention!

I don't know why, but i get the sense that we will have some meaningful relationship. Time will show how it can develop. We have mutual friends, as well, so meeting in person is possible this way, too.
I'm very fond of prognostic astrology; being an amateur astrologer, i have foretold many events from my life and those of my friends. So when i look ahead at both of our charts, it is obvious to me that we will have some things going on beteeen us... But bearing in mind that he has an upcoming Pluto conjunct venus, uranus trine venus and neptune sextile venus transits, also saturn and jup. conjunct venus transit (of course during the next couple of years, not at the same time) while Uranus has just entered my 5th house, only time can tell how far ee can go.

As i started this thread about conversed progressions, i should admit that they seem to show some events even better than forward progressions, i am amazed! It is a pity i neglected this method before.

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