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dribaby
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posted June 02, 2019 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dribaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sister has lot of Saturn in the chart of someone she's dating and curious to know if it's possible to turn long term or will it likely be too heavy to endure.
Their aspects are:
Sun square Saturn exact
Sun conjunct Saturn
Mars square Saturn
Moon trine saturn
Moon inconjunct saturn
Saturn square chiron

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Hikaru29
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posted June 02, 2019 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm.. some of those aspects sound quite painful...

Saturn square Chiron
Mars square Saturn
Sun square Saturn

These are heavy and difficult to manage unless one or both of them are strong Saturnian.

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posted June 02, 2019 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dribaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Hmm.. some of those aspects sound quite painful...

Saturn square Chiron
Mars square Saturn
Sun square Saturn

These are heavy and difficult to manage unless one or both of them are strong Saturnian.


Yes, very heavy!
He has a few Saturn aspects in his natal but not her. So I'm not sure how she will deal with that much Saturn energy going on. They also have sun square unranus!

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posted June 02, 2019 06:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i had hard saturn aspects in synastry with a fwbs i was hooking up with on/off for about a year and a half, hard saturn in the composite too

his saturn was conjunct my descendant/moon/nn, square my mars, opposite my venus and i'm pretty sure my saturn had some **** going on with his chart too i can't remember entirely now

and i just never really had any feelings for him and he never knew how to express himself to me (he'd tell other people how he felt about me and **** , but wasn't direct with me) so it just never really went anywhere and was mostly just something i did for a while there

i didn't feel bad about things ending, but i know he took it hard and from what i know wants things back

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posted June 02, 2019 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for manderin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Too many hard saturn aspects are bad. It's tricky because Saturn's bad qualities don't usually show until long after the relationship has developed. It shows up over time.

I really, REALLY do not like mars square saturn. It's especially hard on the mars person.

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posted June 03, 2019 12:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by manderin:
Too many hard saturn aspects are bad. It's tricky because Saturn's bad qualities don't usually show until long after the relationship has developed. It shows up over time.

I really, REALLY do not like mars square saturn. It's especially hard on the mars person.


Is it easier if it’s both ways?

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posted June 03, 2019 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dribaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i had hard saturn aspects in synastry with a fwbs i was hooking up with on/off for about a year and a half, hard saturn in the composite too

his saturn was conjunct my descendant/moon/nn, square my mars, opposite my venus and i'm pretty sure my saturn had some **** going on with his chart too i can't remember entirely now

and i just never really had any feelings for him and he never knew how to express himself to me (he'd tell other people how he felt about me and **** , but wasn't direct with me) so it just never really went anywhere and was mostly just something i did for a while there

i didn't feel bad about things ending, but i know he took it hard and from what i know wants things back


Wow. Did you guys have any pluto aspect together?

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posted June 03, 2019 03:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dribaby:
Yes, very heavy!
He has a few Saturn aspects in his natal but not her. So I'm not sure how she will deal with that much Saturn energy going on. They also have sun square unranus!

The Uranus square will make them rub each other the wrong way and + Saturn! 😅 Whose Saturn/Uranus?

How long have they been dating and how did your sister feel about the connection so far?

Saturn effects take awhile to surface and can be quite subconscious... also like I said, it depends on individual make-up. Some can take more pressure than others.. and some people don't have a critical nature so even if they have Saturn square Sun with someone, their Saturn energy will come across as more gentle (like a kind mentor) and "digestible" than for e.g. someone who's very critical by nature (i.e. people with hard Saturn in natal).

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posted June 03, 2019 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by dribaby:
Wow. Did you guys have any pluto aspect together?

yeah my pluto squares his sun/uranus conjunction and loosely squares his neptune, and is closely conjunct his ic and his pluto/moon conjunction is conjunct my saturn

in our composite we have sun conjunct pluto in scorpio, and pluto square moon and also have composite saturn conjunct mars and moon (saturn and mars just don't aspect pluto) and square mercury (which also squares mars but not the moon)

i feel confused by it because i never really felt close to him, but he projected a lot of closeness on the relationship in his head and to other people

it's through other people that i've heard he still talks about wanting things to go back to what they were, because he tells them that (we've had no interactions since it ended) and he's gone really off the deep end with binging on drugs, alcohol, and food since (things ended back in january)

you'd think with all that pluto i'd have some sort of feelings but all the intensity is one sided and from him and not actually between us it's very odd

even when it came to sex he was really into it and i found him boring, it just mostly happened because he was around a lot and would just show up and leave things here etc

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posted June 03, 2019 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dribaby     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
yeah my pluto squares his sun/uranus conjunction and loosely squares his neptune, and is closely conjunct his ic and his pluto/moon conjunction is conjunct my saturn

in our composite we have sun conjunct pluto in scorpio, and pluto square moon and also have composite saturn conjunct mars and moon (saturn and mars just don't aspect pluto) and square mercury (which also squares mars but not the moon)

i feel confused by it because i never really felt close to him, but he projected a lot of closeness on the relationship in his head and to other people

it's through other people that i've heard he still talks about wanting things to go back to what they were, because he tells them that (we've had no interactions since it ended) and he's gone really off the deep end with binging on drugs, alcohol, and food since (things ended back in january)

you'd think with all that pluto i'd have some sort of feelings but all the intensity is one sided and from him and not actually between us it's very odd

even when it came to sex he was really into it and i found him boring, it just mostly happened because he was around a lot and would just show up and leave things here etc


You two shared many karmic aspects! It had to be the Saturn that probably made it too heavy for you to stay in especially since it was onesided.

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posted June 03, 2019 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it felt more blocked than heavy on my end, even with his venus conjunct my ic (he has venus retrograde in cap) i never felt much with him, like there was just this barrier between us and i couldn't really develop feelings for him

he has a leo ascendant (conjunct my mercury) and he had this huge tendency to put on a show and it was this constant thing

what's odd is he'd frequently talk to my fiancee about how much he liked me, found me attractive, say that i made him feel special etc but with me he wasn't vocal in that sense and she's told me she thinks he finds me intimidating in a lot of ways but had a lot of feelings for me (which i suppose is obvious in retrospect since there's still a desire to pick things back up on his end and all that)

i know he has issues with his sexuality which was probably part of his issue with expressing himself to me, and i've been someone else's experiment before (i'm on the androgynous side and that makes confused or curious people comfortable, like i'm some stepping stone to figuring themselves out) but i don't care for that sort of thing

things only happened because he was really persistent and he's physically attractive if i'm going to be honest

it's a little awkward because he has a friend who's openly bi and has had/prefers poly relationships who's expressed interest since things ended and has been making attempts to pursue something who's more my type in a lot of ways (except physically) who spoke about how my ex fwbs was still interested and once he found out that wasn't a thing that would happen again started making plans for trips and ****

i have a feeling he'll take that really poorly

edit: i agree all that saturn really made things feel that way, just too blocked and off and i always felt like if things continued they would go to hell pretty quickly

he exhibited some possessive and aggressive behavior (and i'm not a big guy so i wasn't exactly crazy about that) possessive towards me and aggressive towards other people but you know aggression is aggression to an extent

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posted June 04, 2019 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dumuzi:
i had hard saturn aspects in synastry with a fwbs i was hooking up with on/off for about a year and a half, hard saturn in the composite too

his saturn was conjunct my descendant/moon/nn, square my mars, opposite my venus and i'm pretty sure my saturn had some **** going on with his chart too i can't remember entirely now

and i just never really had any feelings for him and he never knew how to express himself to me (he'd tell other people how he felt about me and **** , but wasn't direct with me) so it just never really went anywhere and was mostly just something i did for a while there

i didn't feel bad about things ending, but i know he took it hard and from what i know wants things back


Did the two of you have any 4th,5th,7 or 8th house overlays?

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Dumuzi
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posted June 04, 2019 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dumuzi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ChildofVenus:
Did the two of you have any 4th,5th,7 or 8th house overlays?

yeah my pluto is conjunct his ic my saturn is in his 4th, my uranus neptune and mars are in his 5th, my jupiter is in his 8th

his venus is conjunct my ic and his sun, neptune and uranus are in my 4th, his mars and jupiter are in my 5th, and his saturn is on my moon/descendant

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