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virgoscorpio
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posted June 05, 2019 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgoscorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was pretty close friends with this guy for close to a year. He always told me I was his closest friend and he would always be there for me.

Fast forward to last week and he got very upset at me and told me to never contact him again. He has expressed that he has feelings for me in the past, but I thought he was ok with me being with someone else.

My friend also suffers from depression and severe anxiety, and I think he is going through a tough time with that right now.

From looking at our charts it seems to me that we have a lot of challenging aspects. Does anyone think I should reach out to him once some time has passed or are the charts too challenging?

I should also add that my partner is totally fine with us being friends.

I'm not positive if his TOB is accurate, but he told me once he thinks that's when he was born. My TOB is accurate.
I'm on the inside.

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ChildofVenus
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posted June 05, 2019 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ChildofVenus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
All those squares to his Moon seem like it would be rough.

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virgoscorpio
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posted June 05, 2019 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgoscorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah most of the squares are to my moon. Plus double whammy mars square pluto. After looking at this I wonder how we were even friends at all.

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athenaia
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posted June 05, 2019 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Funny, I imagined an outburst like that would be the Virgo/Scorpio but it is in fact the Aquarius/Aries that's acting like this. That's an interesting astrological subversion.

I would say that with your Sun in his 2nd he's possessive over you, probably doubly so with his Saturn/NN right there. He feels like you're his responsibility or something, but perhaps in a good natured, paternalistic sort of way rather than as an emotional burden.

Then with your Moon/Venus/Pluto right on his IC, you open up a side of himself that few people have access to. Maybe he can't even activate his inner life in a way that you're effortlessly able to? So in a sense you make him feel alive. He probably also thinks you're extremely charming, seductive, and deeply feminine. His Mars is trine your Sun, so he's very much attracted to you. His Venus is in your 7th house, so he probably feels like he would be an ideal boyfriend for you, not the one you currently have.

Otherwise I can't imagine an Aquarius Sun/Mars/Mercury, Venus in Sag and a Moon in Aries ever reacting in such a way.. that's pretty rare. I almost want to congratulate you lol. They always want what they can't have anyway.

To be honest I would say leave him alone. You guys are compatible but if he can only view you romantically then your presence in his life will be a source of turmoil for him. It's best to just let him go even if it does hurt to lose the friendship. He needs to prioritize himself at the moment.

Almost forgot to add: he has a natal t-square in his chart involving his Chiron/Sun+Mars+Mercury/Jupiter. Here you come adding your Moon+Venus+Pluto to the equation and create a grand square. So in a sense you "complete" him but are also a major source of tension/stress for him.

He does has Moon opposite Pluto natally (you have Moon conjunct Pluto natally) even though your Moon signs are incompatible, he probably relates to and admires the way you express yourself. You probably do it more elegantly though (you also have the ever-graceful Moon conjunct Venus) - so there is a beauty to your emotional expression, but his is pretty raw and volatile (Moon in Aries). So yeah.. there are good things in this synastry but things were destined to go south if he doesn't have a mature expression of his chart.

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Hikaru29
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posted June 05, 2019 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You also have Moon square Mars DW with him. This contact can result in intense & volatile emotional exchange.

However, in Composite you have the love stellium opposite Jupiter/Chiron which shows a very close friendship. Uranus although infamous for bringing instability but IMO it's not damaging to friendships. It can simply signify one that's independent and free-spirited.

Moon/Mars support the stellium but squares from Pluto/Saturn may cool emotions between you. It can turn into the 2 of you trying to one-up the other.

However, with the love stellium + Jupiter, this friendship seems still worth fighting for.

Is this about you having a partner? If so, I think you should give him time to accept this and contact him again after some time has passed...

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posted June 05, 2019 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgoscorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think he is upset about my relationship because I told him my relationship is getting serious and that's when he got upset. I am sad about it because we were pretty close but maybe it would just be too hard for him to stay friends.

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posted June 11, 2019 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 16, 2019 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted June 22, 2019 06:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for vansio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Keela Dal
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posted June 22, 2019 08:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Keela Dal     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by vansio:
I’m sorry to hear this hun, but it seems like you can sincerely respect his wishes for not wanting to be reeled emotionally by you anymore. Just because you expressed that you didn’t want a romantic relationship with him didn’t mean you hadn't partnered up with him emotionally one way or another. And with that said, no one wants to hear their partner falling deeper for someone else without consideration of their own feelings in mind, which you seem to flat our ignore (looked aside) after the fact of him telling you how he feels and his availability to you. Advantageous, yet you had a responsibility to him in that regard. Point is, you know this, or else why tell him about your new relationship? In a way, a breakup is necessary so you can get fully whatever you were getting emotionally from him from your new one - and see it for what it was - a crutch. Let him go!

I'm not sure we read the same post. Virgoscorpio said:

"I was pretty close friends with this guy for close to a year. He always told me I was his closest friend and he would always be there for me.
Fast forward to last week and he got very upset at me and told me to never contact him again. He has expressed that he has feelings for me in the past, but I thought he was ok with me being with someone else.

My friend also suffers from depression and severe anxiety, and I think he is going through a tough time with that right now."

There is nothing but friendship mentioned on her part, specifically noting being involved with someone else & the other person knowing that all along. There is no reeling in emotionally if all you offer is friendship and expect that desire to be respected, the way friends do.

Being friends is not partnering in a romantic way. Virgoscorpio was not any kind of a partner to the guy but a friend. She was not choosing him as a partner & thus she had nothing to consider when making her further, separate, relationship choices with an actual prospective partner. He is not even an ex or anybody who has any say in what she decides for herself. There is no such consideration owed to his crush if he has hopes placed on her, when she is not available or interested like that.

She can respect his wishes to not get in touch I'm sure, but it's more that he perhaps did not fully respect her wishes for a relationship entirely somewhere else with someone other than him. He made his feelings clear, she did not respond in kind. End of story - unless VIRGOSCORPIO sometime tells him otherwise. She didn't.

If he can't be friends with her and has been holding out false hope (as people do) until unable to deny the truth she has no interest in him other than as a friend, he probably needs time to get over his crush. There is no burden on her to further mollycoddle his feelings when she had been friendly & amicable this far as well. Nothing owed other than respecting his wishes for distance. As per Virgoscorpio's post, it's not 100% clear he respected her wish to be friends only, wishing for more.

She was getting friendship type of things from him, partner type things from elsewhere. We cannot get everything in life from one person only & never will, which is why we have friends even when we're with other people. To me it reads more that he was clinging to Virgoscorpio & using the friendship as a hope for more in the future. A crutch on his part, a friendship on her part. Mostly different emotional needs on her part.

Athenaia & Hikaru29 listed some astrological aspects already so not repeating more of those. Uranus is currently hitting his Chiron so maybe emotional hurts are at the forefront right now. It also seems that the nodes are or have been transiting in a square to his Moon-Pluto opposition so emotional issues seem IT just now for him. It's true that he as if can't help but to obsess over you with your Mars squaring those two, both potentially very strong or at worst explosive contacts. The harsh Saturn-Pluto-Nodes transit squares to his Moon-Pluto are a grinder I imagine.

Give him his space and keep in mind the transits going on right now are probably hitting him hard. It may not be all about you either instead of you as a catalyst for things going on at his end. I didn't have a bad Pluto square Pluto transit myself but it is listed as one of the bad ones. With him it also goes to the core of the emotions with the Moon opposition doubled into a square?

If he gets over the romantic interest in you and feels he can be your friend only as your wish all along, he'll get back to you sometime later on. Most likely only after the transits have passed, depending on how raw those feel right now.

Your DSC ruler Jupiter is near his ASC. He has his Merc-Mars-Sun in his 7th house so it may be that he projects some things related onto people seen as partners. You have a Gemini-ASC with your Uranus in your seventh and your ASC-ruler Mercury conjuncts his Node, so there are things that echo between you, but if it's not to be it's not to be - however much a nodal contact perhaps feels like it SHOULD be to him. The Moon is also his DSC-ruler so okay, those harsh transit squares are probably ending any false hopes and all for his own good.

Perhaps you can have contact again sometime, but the transits have to be dealt with first.

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